I lowered my car a couple of month ago and today i noticed that my front tyres on the inside is totally worn out.

So i have an negative camber, is it any way to change the camber on the car?

Probably needs on the rear too.

 

I haven't done any wheel alignment at all.

The car is an RS tdi 2015 and the springs is eibach sportline. 

The factory setting is negative camber, I doubt that yours is excessive or even out of tolerance unless someone has been playing with it.

 

Your first step should be to check the tracking and adjust if necessary.

12 hours ago, Obalaan said:

I lowered my car a couple of month ago and today i noticed that my front tyres on the inside is totally worn out.

So i have an negative camber, is it any way to change the camber on the car?

Probably needs on the rear too.

 

I haven't done any wheel alignment at all.

The car is an RS tdi 2015 and the springs is eibach sportline. 

 

Any such work on suspension does need your alignment checking over. You can never set it up properly by assuming it's 'back near enough'.

 

Surprised you've not noticed the handling of the car is bad, especially if the tyres have worn out so quickly as you say.

How much did you lower it by? 

On 27/08/2020 at 22:36, J.R. said:

The factory setting is negative camber, I doubt that yours is excessive or even out of tolerance unless someone has been playing with it.

 

Your first step should be to check the tracking and adjust if necessary.

 

I am going to do an alignment soon but i dont think they know how to do camber adjustment since you probably need some kind of workshop manual and that's is basicly what i'm after with this thread so i can show it to them.

 

12 hours ago, tunedude said:

 

Any such work on suspension does need your alignment checking over. You can never set it up properly by assuming it's 'back near enough'.

 

Surprised you've not noticed the handling of the car is bad, especially if the tyres have worn out so quickly as you say.

 

The handling is really good in corners (which it is with negative camber) but i think it is too much negative camber.

The tyres is second hand and was pretty worn out already so it was not new tyres.

 

12 hours ago, Wino said:

How much did you lower it by? 

 

Sportline lowers it by 30mm

After fitting the springs did you get the geometry checked?

Hi there just want to chime in on the topic.  After lowering on standard shocks using racing line lowering springs and adjustable drop-links I am experiencing the same sorts of issues on the front, rears are fine.  I took the car to get the alignment done on a Hunters rig and was told my front subframe was out of alignment and to be honest the issue (handling and uneven type wear) seems to be worse after the alignment.  To address the suspected subframe issue I am getting the racing line subframe collars, front and back, installed hopefully in the next week or so.

 

Speaking to a mechanic and doing a little research, its a known or should I say a potentially know issue when you lower your car, because using lowering springs on your car can introduce negative camber.  It may not help that I have 15mm spacers which may have exaggerated the issue, although the rears are on 20mm spacers and are absolutely fine.   I am also looking at various other options I may need in order to correct the camber, these include adjustable upper control arms, adjustable suspension top mounts, etc. Once the collars have been installed I will take it to another alignment centre to get a second opinion and report back.  

 

In the meantime here's another forum user experiencing camber issues which may be helpful:- https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/264502-this-is-getting-silly-now-camber-adjustment-required/

 

Normally lowering affects the toe as well as the camber. Your bald inner shoulder is probably more a result of the tyres constantly scrubbing with excessive toe than the camber.

 

Easiest solution is to get a hunters alignment or similar which measures toe, camber and caster on both axles to give you a full picture of which direction the wheels are pointing

 

 

Thank you for the reply uttanutta12 and something I will definitely be investigating, it has proven so far to be extremely problematic trying to find an aftermarket product that will correct negative camber.  Adjustable top mounts are available but to use correctly would require fabrication of the top mounts.  There are a few other options I can possibly have a look at but I wasn't given a printout when the alignment was originally performed because they had run out of ink, so right now don't have an idea of how much correction is required. 

 

I've noticed the most negative camber since having a hunters alignment performed.  Maybe its the well known franchise I used who shall remain nameless at this stage.

Definitely worth getting an alignment with a printout, maybe hunt about for a specialist/tuner if the well known franchise isn't cutting the mustard (even if you just do toe as it's normally cheaper at £25-30) then you can see what you're dealing with. If you post it up in here i'm sure someone can reference the OEM spec for camber etc. 

Hi, got the alignment collars installed on Saturday and had the alignment redone today.  After receiving the print out I asked why, after being told the first time around, was the right side still out of alignment when the subframe had now been corrected? At which point I was told the reason they were unable to do the right side this time is because it could be the CV joint?   Before I could ask another question the person took a call and disappeared!   Here is the result of today's alignment and a picture of the wear on one of the tyres, very similar to the other side, hopefully someone with be interpret what could be causing the issue.  I only noticed what base spec they were using when I got home and wondered if his could have an influance?

Camber.bmp

The printout says Octavia II specs have been used, but presumably you have an Octavia III?

Correct, I didn't notice until I got home, surely that can't be right can it?

13 hours ago, Addictive said:

Correct, I didn't notice until I got home, surely that can't be right can it?

I would have thought that the specs for the Octavia II and Octavia III would be different.

 

Worth going back and pointing out the error to them?

Thanks may also be worth giving Skoda UK a call and see if they have a technical dept like some other manufactures do and ask them the question before going back to them.

Thank you for all your responses.  Spoke to Skoda UK who pointed me in the direction of eWin's, fortunately I had already downloaded the geometry spec's but looks a little like double dutch to the uninitiated.  I went back to the garage and had a polite conversation with the manager explaining the history and showing him the most recent attempt to align my car using a MkII's spec's.  He was very understanding and apologetic at what had happened and offered to do the alignment again himself, couldn't say no to that and below are the results.

 

Quick question if anybody would be able to help, what is the best way to try and resolve the issue with the driver's side camber.  Could this be a possible issue with the strut when the lowering springs were put on that needs adjusting, is it even possible?  I used the Racing Line Springs and have no complaints about the ride, I only ask because as you will see the passengers side is fine.  I have been looking at adjustable ball joints but the only give +/- .5 degrees, then there is the TT wishbone swap but not sure if they are a straight swap on the MkIII like they are on the MkII and they may or may not change the caster angle which is a who new story.  I think my only option may be a set of Powerflex Front Wishbone Front Bushes Camber Adjustable - OCTAVIA 5E 150PS PLUS MULTI-LINK - PFF85-501G and adustable lower ball joint which will give me a possible total of +/- 1 degree, or at least it does in my head, happy to be corrected?

 

Hope I'm not breaking any rules by sharing this website but found the explanation of camber, toe and caster easy to follow:-https://www.comeanddriveit.com/suspension/camber-caster-toe