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DSG7 - 1st and 2nd gear vibration

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I might have problems with my DSG7 (dq200) in an Octavia 2014 1.4TSI (used in traffic since October 2013). Sometimes I get a vibration when the gearbox goes from 1st to 2nd gear. This happens irregularly, but more often when the car is warm after some driving and/or the summer weather is hot.  Otherwise the gearbox is pleasant to drive.

 

The car has been driven 105 000km, and soon it will not be covered by my insurance. I might have three options:

 

  1. Stay cool - this is normal behaviour for the gearbox and car.
  2. Take it to the VW-dealer and let them have a look. They may or may not be able to replicate the issue and fix it. It could be a waist of time and money. I get a little worried when reading forums about this, but then these are not proper sources of information.
  3. Get rid of the car - the problem might be ok for now, but it will likely to get worse over time, when the car is not covered by insurance any more.

 

I’m thinking of changing to a manual Touran(2016-). We wouldn’t mind some more space, LED-lights and a MPV - we are missing our old Roomster =).

I wish I had bought a manual to begin with.

 

The first thing I would do is not panic. Cars whether manualnor dsg etc can all fail at various stages of their life.

If you are keeping it and if it has not been serviced/reset recently.  I know the dq200 is fit for life but there have been campaigns where issues have happened causing internal corrosion of the gearbox. They had different oil put in and a software update. I would get that checked as sometimes it just needs a reset.

I would let someone take a look at it that you trust and agree a price before any work is started purely for your peace of mind. 

If you have vcds or obdeleven you can reset the dsg yourself. Plus if you plan on sticking with the VAG with yout next car it can be used on that. Saves a lot of money in the long run. 

 

You can check with Skoda UK and quote Service Campaign '34H5' is required on your car.

Edited by Ecomatt

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I went to the local VW-dealer, where we usually service our car. They immediatly understood what I was talking about and wanted to investigate the car. Maybe it will cost up to 400€ - they spoke about reading codes and so on.

 

If it comes down to changing clutch and stuff it might end up with 2000€ or more. 

 

DoppelScheisseGetriebe 😃

 

Did you try to reset dsg yourself? 

Start ignition without pressing brake, so the engine doesn't start. 

Press fully throttle pedal for 20 sec

Release pedal and start the engine. 

 

 

It could be the clutches have worn out. There is also an possible update for your DSG gearbox.

If the clutches are worn out too much and you reset adaptation values for them your gearbox could go into safe mode ,cuz the clutch tolerances are too big.

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Thanks for your advices.

 

I think I´ll pay the VW-dealer to get it checked. The gearbox is too complex for me to do anything.

 

I might sell the car in the end. I get the impression that these problems reocurrs for some people, at least the angry ones writing in forums. Our air condition broke down this summer as well. I get the feeling more is coming, but I do not know what =)

@loha

 

Best ask them and if they say no double check.

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Is your DQ200 DSG one that should have been part of Service Campaign / Recall Action '34H5'  started in 2017 on some boxes produced between 2013-2015?

A software update as a preventative measure which causes failures and leaks.

(This is now a yet another RECALL in Australia started in 2019 but covering the period of the last 2 recall / service campaigns.)

 

'34H5' has nothing to do with the World Wide Recall and European Service Campaign '34F7' which was on DQ200's from 2009-2012.

That was the change from Synthetic Oil to Mineral and a Software update.

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4 minutes ago, e-Roottoot said:

@loha

 

Best ask them and if they say no double check.

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Is your DQ200 DSG one that should have been part of Service Campaign / Recall Action '34H5'  started in 2017 on some boxes produced between 2013-2015?

A software update as a preventative measure which causes failures and leaks.

(This is now a yet another RECALL in Australia started in 2019 but covering the period of the last 2 recall / service campaigns.)

 

'34H5' has nothing to do with the World Wide Recall and European Service Campaign '34F7' which was on DQ200's from 2009-2012.

That was the change from Synthetic Oil to Mineral and a Software update.

 

I do not know these kind of stuff. I hope the VW-dealer do =)

 

The gearbox got an update maybe two years ago during service, and it has the mineral oil.

 

 

It could well have required the Software Update.

There should be a sticker in the spare tyre well showing it as done.

 

Best not trust to them knowing or admitting to anything.

You need to be Asking Skoda Customer Services as well as at a dealership.

 

Try your VIN in this one.

'34H5' was not coming up for a couple of years but seemed to after Australia called it a RECALL there.

http://skoda-auto.com/services/recall-actions

 

 

This was the 2014 letters but should not apply to cars late 2012 on.  

 

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Thank you e-Roottot. I tried my VIN and got the information "No relevant recall campaigns have been launched by ŠKODA for the entered VIN ". 

 

When I bought the car I was told that it had got the new oil. The VW-Skoda dealer here  has all the information about the car in their computer. If I don´t trust the VW-Skoda dealer here, it´s better to give up the car. 

 

 

My 2017 had developed a clutch noise.

 

its used as a private hire and done around 70k it on it.

It starts when the car has been running a while and hill starts seem to to be worse so suspect they clutches are on there way out.

 

think the issue with these is they change to 2nd instantly so must be putting a lot of pressure on the clutches.

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If changing clutches - or doing another similar expensive repair to the dq200: can one expect the DSG7 to work properly another 150 000km?

 

Or is the gearbox to complex to get fixed once the problems occurs after 90 000km? I mean - do the wear on different parts, like clutches, affect other parts of the box?

 

I can´t really decide. Keep the car when it´s not covered by insurance in a couple months or not =)

  • 8 months later...

And after more and more vibrations in 2nd gear and after several attempts of dealer to recalibrate, clutch was replaced under warranty on only 40tkm.Now it is running like new but for how long? Another 40tkm?1.8tsi btw. The clutch is too weak for this engine as it appears. 

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Sorry to hear about this. But good you got a new clutch.

 

My problems sort of disappeared during the winter here in Scandinavia - and we went on ski trips etc. But now with the warm weather coming back, the vibration is a bit more noticable again. The problem does not seem to get worse, but we´ll see.

 

The cars has been driven 110 000km. Another 10 000km and the gearbox is not insured any more. A control of the DSG will cost around 500€. I don´t know about this. Fixing the problem might cost 2500€ - but would hopefully be covered by insurance for now. We are keeping the car until it´s done hopefully another 3-6 years before going electric or bio-gas.

 

 

 

The was mainly in 2nd gear, start moving until 2nd gear, slow down to 5km/h and then speed up, then the vibration would kick in every time. I heard that there is a small slip when shifting from 1st to 2nd, maybe this is also causing premature wear on 2nd gear clutch. 

  • 4 years later...

The same as mine, i changed transmission at 80000km and now the same situation at 135000km

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