But don't be too upset, I'm just leaving the Karoq thread to join the Kamiq thread.

 

I've been offered a VERY good deal on a Kamiq SE l with a number of nice extras for not much extra cash each month.

 

I will still be lurking in the shadows and may pup up with some answers to questions or reply to some interesting threads.

 

The Enyaq looks VERY nice but I'm not quite ready to make the leap to fully electric cars yet until the government gets itself organised by offering us MUCH better incentives to swap our diesel and petrol cars.  

10 minutes ago, Macdemon said:

The Enyaq looks VERY nice but I'm not quite ready to make the leap to fully electric cars yet until the government gets itself organised by offering us MUCH better incentives to swap our diesel and petrol cars.  

You shouldn't need incentivising to save the world! 

1 hour ago, john999boy said:

You shouldn't need incentivising to save the world! 

 

I don't, but I still want my pound of flesh haha 

And a spare wheel!!

2 hours ago, CJJE said:

And a spare wheel!!

 

Yes, and that 

Edited 23 September, 20205 yr by Macdemon

That Kamiq might be quite a good green option for now - small & so relatively  economical with lowish emissions.  Until a few days ago, I was becoming quite enthusiastic towards EVs, as part of the carbon neutral evolution movement, but then I came across articles that put a big ? on the sustainability of Lithium Ion Batteries as they are at present.

 

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/analysis-just-how-green-are-electric-vehicles

I found this really surprising, but it seems EVs take rather more energy to build than ICE cars.  That embedded energy may take only a few years to break even, if the propulsion electricity used is from sustainable sources, but maybe no overall advantage if carbon produced.  Admittedly the article is a little old and things may be improving, but I've not read anything so far that indicates this.

 

https://getpocket.com/explore/item/the-limits-of-clean-energy

This link describes how the Lithium mining/extraction process uses large quantities of water and is creating severe local environmental problems in South America - if EVs do take off, the Lithium requirements will be many times more than we currently extract, with commensurate growth in such problems.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/sep/17/significant-lithium-find-spurs-hopes-of-cornwall-regeneration

On the other hand looks like Cornwall may be abler to supply all of UKs Lithium needs in a few years time.  I think this is good news!!!

 

Maybe hybrids are a more attractive option at the moment - not too many batteries on board, but they do offer worthwhile fuel savings on short journeys.  Has anyone done the maths?

19 hours ago, Macdemon said:

But don't be too upset, I'm just leaving the Karoq thread to join the Kamiq thread.

 

I've been offered a VERY good deal on a Kamiq SE l with a number of nice extras for not much extra cash each month.

 

I will still be lurking in the shadows and may pup up with some answers to questions or reply to some interesting threads.

 

The Enyaq looks VERY nice but I'm not quite ready to make the leap to fully electric cars yet until the government gets itself organised by offering us MUCH better incentives to swap our diesel and petrol cars.  

You are paying more per month for a little Kamiq than you were for the Karoq??????

yes