2014 VRS TSI Estate: Quantum Red Remap to 310bhp?

[MiniMan64]

Morning chaps and ladies,

 

Does anyone have any info on this remap?

 

I am a proud owner of a 2014 VRS estate in a fetching race blue and I’m very happy with it so far despite the lockdown enforced limited driving so far! 
 

In a slightly odd situation although I purchased it from a local dealer, I am also in contact with the previous owner who part ex’ed it to the dealer. He seems a decent chap who’s looked after it and informs me that it has been remapped with a Quantum Red remap and is making about 300+. Thing is there was no paper work about this with the car and the dealer never mentioned it, has any body any info and any suggestions as to where I can find some info? 
 

Is there anything mechanically I should be aware of running a remapped VRS? Paperwork says a new clutch/flywheel was fitted last year. It’s a manual of that

makes a difference? 
 

Thanks for any help everyone! 

[Kenai]

Quantum Red is one of several maps developed by Quantum tuning, often resold via smaller independent mechanics, mobile tuners etc. 

 

https://www.quantumtuning.co.uk/quantum-tuning-options.aspx

 

If you're running a mapped car, you may need to be conscious of fuel choice (many maps will be configured to expect 99 RON) and ensuring you keep on top of servicing but other than that, there's not much you need to do 'special'. You'll burn through clutches if you constantly launch it, high gear low speed pulls (say overtaking in a 40) to ride the torque wave probably won't do it much good either, so keep using your gearbox. 

 

The only other issue really is that of insurance - you should be telling them it's modified if you know and not all insurers will like this. Some will ask for an extra £20, others may even refuse to insure it all. Plenty of people will tell you to risk it and spin a story about it not being easy to detect, or to feign ignorance, but it's not a risk I would take personally, I'd rather do it all above board. 

[roaddetective]

The standard clutch usually copes well with the remap, mine does and I am running 329bhp on the original clutch and a manual gearbox. From all I have read from owners who have had a stage one map, there are no problems with any part of the car. Just avoid too many racing starts and use the higher revs to build up speed, rather than the  temptingly brilliant low down torque. I also now use 97-99 Ron fuel every fill. Low Ron fuel in mapped cars can cause engine problems, as the guy who mapped my car confirmed to me. I also agree completely with what Kenai says about insurance.

Edited 31 January, 2021 by roaddetective

[Ootohere]

@MiniMan64Getting it on a dyno when you can will be a good idea and then you will know what you actually have since you are making a declaration to your insurers that the car has been re-mapped.

[MiniMan64]

Cheers folks. Good to know about the clutch, it’s not going to get hammered anyway, the car was purchased for rapid family wagon (why does no one make decent fast petrol estates anymore?) duties and not traffic light GPs! 
 

Also an excellent point in the insurance, I’ll have to give them a shout. Although my main issue is that I’ve got absolutely no details on what’s been modified as no paperwork was supplied about it and the dealer mentioned nothing about it. It’s only pure chance that was talking to the previous owner before Christmas and realised it was the same car. 

[Gerrycan]

If the dealer is a VW/Skoda specialist then could a standard tune have been reinstated?

I guess a one off timed 0-60 would pretty quickly confirm the ECU status....you know just out of curiosity  

Edited 31 January, 2021 by Gerrycan

[MiniMan64]

I’m afraid it wasn’t a specialist, just a normal local dealer. I think once life opens up a little more some investigation will be in order...

[Ootohere]

VW Group made quick petrol estates back in 2014 and still do now.

Now the need is to have low average Co2 emissions so they will be with a DSG or Auto mainly and with hybrid mode these days.

There is hardly a petrol family estate anyplace that can not deal with modern UK traffic speeds, overtaking and a 60 mph NSL.

[Kenai]

2 hours ago, MiniMan64 said:

(why does no one make decent fast petrol estates anymore?) 

They do, they're just expensive these days. 

 

C43, C63, 330i, M340i, RS4, RS6, RS3/S3 Sportback (kind of), Golf R, Arteon R (soon), Cupra ST, Focus ST, V60 B6... 

Edited 31 January, 2021 by Kenai
Forgot the S4/S6 are dirty diesels these days

[ahenners]

22 hours ago, Kenai said:

They do, they're just expensive these days. 

 

C43, C63, 330i, M340i, RS4, RS6, RS3/S3 Sportback (kind of), Golf R, Arteon R (soon), Cupra ST, Focus ST, V60 B6... 

 

This. If anything more manufacturers are making them now, but more crucially, people are actually buying new petrols in greater numbers. This same question again will be different in a few years time where the 3-5 year old used market will be less skewed towards diesels. 2014 was part of an era where high CO2 emitting petrols were shunned for diesels. Company car buyers and private buyers both benefitted from low CO2 taxation/BIK on diesels then.

[MiniMan64]

1 minute ago, ahenners said:

 

This. If anything more manufacturers are making them now, but more crucially, people are actually buying new petrols in greater numbers. This same question again will be different in a few years time where the 3-5 year old used market will be less skewed towards diesels. 2014 was part of an era where high CO2 emitting petrols were shunned for diesels. Company car buyers and private buyers both benefitted from low CO2 taxation/BIK on diesels then.

 

Yes, this was sort of my point, 5-10 years ago when diesels were in their hey day there were not a of choice on the petrol market. I was coming from a 2.5 V6 Alfa into the VRS and short of spending big money I can't afford there weren't too many options, a few high mileage Audi's perhaps. 

[Swirly182]

23 hours ago, Kenai said:

They do, they're just expensive these days. 

 

C43, C63, 330i, M340i, RS4, RS6, RS3/S3 Sportback (kind of), Golf R, Arteon R (soon), Cupra ST, Focus ST, V60 B6... 

Also the Passat R Line and Superb Sportline estates with the 2L TSI 272 engine. Not 'too' expensive either.

 

Makes you wonder why Audi decided to put the 3L TDI in the latest S4 and S6.

[Kenai]

11 minutes ago, Swirly182 said:

Also the Passat R Line and Superb Sportline estates with the 2L TSI 272 engine. Not 'too' expensive either.

 

Makes you wonder why Audi decided to put the 3L TDI in the latest S4 and S6.

Yes, i'd forgotten about those.

 

I wonder if Audi have been observing BMW sales of cars like 340i vs 335d/340d, which are actually surprisingly closely matched performance wise but where even now the diesel variants seem to be selling better and decided there was less merit in the petrol car? Anyone that set on petrol, they'd presumably try to upsell to an RS4/RS6.

 

(For reference I think in the F30 shape 3 series, the 335d sold something like 15,000 units across various trims, where the 340i sold more like 2,500)

 

 

[Ootohere]

Audi are getting the last hoorah out of the TDI's before they have to go. 

As the Bi-Turbo has to in the cars / trucks with them.

 

A 335d x-Drive is a thing of wonderment.

 

 

[Ecomatt]

On the plus side someone will get a bargain in a few years when the price of used diesel vehicles plummet. 

Edited 1 February, 2021 by Ecomatt

[Ootohere]

There will always be people who want cars that can give good economy when carry people and stuff over long distances and maybe even need to tow.

Not everyone lives in urban areas or needs to go into low emission zones in towns or cities.

 

Horses for courses.

  Many people drive what they like to drive regardless of the changing minds of politicians.

[MiniMan64]

Having driven it for a month now, albeit reduced miles, the clutch is definitely slipping if you try and launch it or just plant your right foot which is a shame. Day to day driving it's fine though so I'll stick with it for now. 

 

I would be interested to get it on a local rolling road (they specialise in Japanese stuff but have taken a look at my Mini before so I'm sure they'll be fine with the VRS!) to see what it really makes and maybe even consider a slight detune but I'm a bit concerned that the clutch will be an issue.