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NEW BATTERY CODING

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Hi there, need some help !

my car(mk2 superb elegance 2.0 tdi cr 4x4 s-a 6 speed dsg with stop start) 

i have been having trouble with my battery loosing its charge its ok for a day or so then car wont start i have to jump start it, i charged the battery up using a ctek 5.0 then morning after the battery was giving (12.08) it went down to (9.+ )  under crank couldn't see the number really it starts that fast i only seen the (9.) something its that quick, then ones started and ticking over it was giving (14.89) problem is with this cold weather my car wont start after 2 days or so so bite the bullet and got a new battery.

this is where the problem starts the battery that is already fitted to my car is a varta with 68AH - 380din- 680A  i was told of some of the other members that a new battery would need coding in.

the battery i changed it to was a (YUASA YBX9000  72AH- 720A) i took the car to an indie garage to have the battery changed over he fitted the new YUASA battery and tried coding it in he dosnt have vcds but he has a pretty useful snap on diagnostics, he started to enter the new values in then got to the stage where it was asking him for make of new battery then code number it gave a phew names of battery makes like exide.varta and so on but no YUASA so he couldn't enter the make of battery then it asked for the code number of the battery, the diagnostics machine gave three different code numbers to pick from but we couldn't find any code numbers on the new YUASA battery.he rang around different places trying to get the code number for that battery with no success. so at this point i told to re fit the old battery why i got some advise of this forum.

so can anyone advise me on what i need to do please?

cheers kev

   

Edited by Kevgem

The manufacturer and codes aren't that important. It's just so the battery management system knows it's a new battery...

 

As long as the capacity is right, it should be fine. Assuming the old battery and new are similar, just add one to the serial number ;)

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thanks for the reply but the new battery is a make that the snap on diagnostic machine doesn't give you that make name it doesn't give you the option of yuasa + i have tried to up the battery values a little for example the battery on the car now is a varta 68AH-680A  the battery i am trying to fit is a YUASA -YBX9000- 70AH- 760A is it safe to do so i.e would the higher values do anything to the car?

if the slightly higher values are ok to do would it be better to try and find a VARTA battery with the higher values and stay with the VARTA make seeing as that is the make that is already on the car?

p.s on his diagnostic i think he needed to pick one of the three code numbers that it offered befor it would moove on to the next section for the coding.

sorry if i haven't explained things properly its all very new to me and i haven't got a clue how to do it,iam used to just throwing a new battery on a car and away you go lol

many thanks kev

 

16 minutes ago, Kevgem said:

thanks for the reply but the new battery is a make that the snap on diagnostic machine doesn't give you that make name it doesn't give you the option of yuasa + i have tried to up the battery values a little for example the battery on the car now is a varta 68AH-680A  the battery i am trying to fit is a YUASA -YBX9000- 70AH- 760A is it safe to do so i.e would the higher values do anything to the car?

if the slightly higher values are ok to do would it be better to try and find a VARTA battery with the higher values and stay with the VARTA make seeing as that is the make that is already on the car?

p.s on his diagnostic i think he needed to pick one of the three code numbers that it offered befor it would moove on to the next section for the coding.

sorry if i haven't explained things properly its all very new to me and i haven't got a clue how to do it,iam used to just throwing a new battery on a car and away you go lol

many thanks kev

 

Those values are so close to the original that the change isn't worth being concerned about - so as langers2k has said just add 1 to the serial number and you're done.

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thanks for the help chaps!

atb kev

You should have a few adaption channels like this:

  • [19 - CAN-Gateway]
  • [Adaptation - 10]
    • Battery adaptation - Size (this may be something like IDE03256-MAS04490 Battery adaptation - Size)
      • Select the battery Ah rating from the drop-down menu followed by [Do It!] and confirm [Yes]
    • Battery adaptation - Manufacturer (this may be something like IDE03256-MAS03159 Battery adaptation - Manufacturer)
      • Select the battery manufacturer from the drop-down menu followed by [Do It!] and confirm [Yes]
    • Battery adaptation - Serial number (this may be something like IDE03256-IDE00010 Battery adaptation - Serial number)
      • Type the serial number code from the replacement battery followed by [Do It!] and confirm [Yes]

The Ah should be set correctly. The manufacturer and serial number don't matter too much, as long as the serial is different to the previous battery ;)

 

For example, mine are currently:

  • IDE03256-MAS06105-Battery adaptation-Rated battery capacity,69 Ah
  • IDE03256-MAS06106-Battery adaptation-Battery technology,EFB
  • IDE03256-MAS06107-Battery adaptation-Battery manufacturer,JCB
  • IDE03256-MAS06108-Battery adaptation-Battery Serial Number,1111111111

You can either set them manually if the tool allows, or try and use the guided function with made up data (apart from Ah!)...

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thanks for the help i will need to show the guy at the garage this info see if he can do that, i need to get my self another battery now as he has sent the YUASA back to general motors and asked me to try and do a bit of research to find out what needs doing and get myself the correct battery the guy at the garage did try to sort things out for me i was stud next to him when he made half a dozen phone calls trying to get a the solution to the problem we was getting so he hasn't just fobbed me off.

is there any chance you could recommend a new battery for me please?

the one thats fitted on the car when i got it is

(VARTA 68AH - 680A) 

and i was hoping i could up rate it a little with the new battery with a (bigger AH - and a bigger A) is this poss with no adverse affect?

if this is ok to do could you please advise me on which battery to get and fit to my car?

many thanks kev

 

Any battery that'll physically fit and matches the existing technology should be fine. As mentioned above, you can update the capacity in the battery monitoring to match :)

 

Much like tyres, spares or anything else, everyone will have their own preferred batteries.

 

I've used Bosch and Varta previously without issue.

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many thanks everyone for there input much appreciated!

atb kev 

  • 2 weeks later...
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hi there, sorry to keep bringing the same problem up yet again but i am having a nightmare with this battery coding i when and got a (NEW) varta e39 silver dynamic AGM start/stop 70AH + 760A only difference between the new battery to the old one is the old varta battery is 68AH and 680A the new one is 70AH and 760A just going up on the values a small amount.

thinking everything should be fine now i should be so lucky the mechanic was still having problems coding it in, his diagnostic tool still only giving him 3 numbers to choose from for the battery code and when he enters the new values it will not recognize them so he had a fiddle around on the diagnostic and said there think that is it finished the job off i started the car it started just as it should do no warning lights came on so off i when. but to be honest i am a bit concerned it has not been coded correctly and may do something to the car ecu or something i told you it was all new to me lol.

so is any of the members that have VCDS in or near to st,helens that would be willing to check if it hase been coded correctly for me and code it in if needed i am more than happy to pay for there time not a problem i just need to know it right. i do not want it cooking my battery or damaging anything elf.

many thanks kev

p.s if it hasnt been coded correctly could i do any damage by me using the car until someone can check it for me?

  • 2 weeks later...
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big thank you to tunedude for sorting my battery coding problem its people like this that make this such a good forum thanks again pal! 

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