Hello what grades of engine oil fine for a skoda fabia 1.4 tdi 2006?

 

This fully or semi synthetic oil?

 

Thanks

5w30 fully synthetic low ash if you have a dpf. You can always run it on Sunday market oil but it won't be any good. Get something like quantum from Skoda or vw it's reasonably priced and the correct oil. I've seen it on eBay for 15 a gallon 

Edited 18 July, 20214 yr by paulkennedy
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Servicing interval? 

505 01 probably ideal if annual/<10k miles or more frequent.

No mk1s had DPFs unless retrofitted, I think?

Edited 18 July, 20214 yr by Wino

1 hour ago, paulkennedy said:

5w30 fully synthetic low ash if you have a dpf. You can always run it on Sunday market oil but it won't be any good. Get something like quantum from Skoda or vw it's reasonably priced and the correct oil. I've seen it on eBay for 15 a gallon 

 

You can't run it on Sunday market oil, it's a PD engine so it HAS to have the correct spec. or the top end will get scrapped VERY quickly, 505.01 or 507, whichever you can get cheapest, don't get distracted by brand or viscosity, synthetic or semi-syn.

 

Only the spec. matters, nothing else.

1 hour ago, sepulchrave said:

 

You can't run it on Sunday market oil, it's a PD engine so it HAS to have the correct spec. or the top end will get scrapped VERY quickly, 505.01 or 507, whichever you can get cheapest, don't get distracted by brand or viscosity, synthetic or semi-syn.

 

Only the spec. matters, nothing else.

I'd disagree, the viscosity I'd always try and use the correct, or close to the correct spec. I wouldn't disregard it, but I do go a bit higher than the 0-20w that they are pushing now for lower emmissions.

As to the semi synthetic they never say what percentage is what, it could be 20% or 80% who knows? It might meet the spec but the life and properties won't be as good as a fully synthetic. Still I'd say changing the oil and filter regularly is probably the best thing you can do for your car. 

Edited 18 July, 20214 yr by VRS_White_Hatch

9 minutes ago, VRS_White_Hatch said:

I'd disagree, the viscosity I'd always try and use the correct, or close to the correct spec.

The viscosity is guaranteed to be suitable by the given oil meeting the relevant VW group spec. 

A 2006 car will not be compatible with 508 00 or 509 00 specs  (which is what you mean by 0W20 I guess?).  

It's tempting to think that higher number VW spec means better, and assume backward compatibility, but neither is necessarily true.

Edited 18 July, 20214 yr by Wino

1 hour ago, VRS_White_Hatch said:

I'd disagree, the viscosity I'd always try and use the correct, or close to the correct spec. I wouldn't disregard it, but I do go a bit higher than the 0-20w that they are pushing now for lower emmissions.

As to the semi synthetic they never say what percentage is what, it could be 20% or 80% who knows? It might meet the spec but the life and properties won't be as good as a fully synthetic. Still I'd say changing the oil and filter regularly is probably the best thing you can do for your car. 

 

You're welcome to disagree but you'd be wrong.

 

So there's that.

Edited 18 July, 20214 yr by sepulchrave

So I can get oil with 501 01 standard spec and choose either 5w30 or 5w40 oil.

 

So does the fully or semi synthetic make a difference on these engines.

 

The mk1 skoda fabia 1.4 tdi mk1 2006 on mine just got a cat no dpf.

Edited 18 July, 20214 yr by Kelly_Heroes

Its 505.01 not 501.01 and definitely not 505.00

 

507.00 is fine.

 

Do NOT use 508/509 spec oil under any circumstances, it is NOT backward compatible and will probably kill your PD engine.

 

Specs are the important thing for PD engines, the oil must have EP additives to protect the unit injector camlobes. A full synthetic blend is always preferable to semi synthetic, hardly any price difference nowadays and longer life. Stick to known brands.

 

 

9 hours ago, Kelly_Heroes said:

So I can get oil with 501 01 standard spec and choose either 5w30 or 5w40 oil.

 

So does the fully or semi synthetic make a difference on these engines.

 

The mk1 skoda fabia 1.4 tdi mk1 2006 on mine just got a cat no dpf.

 

My typo mistake.

 

So I will get oil with 505.01 and 507.00 standard spec.

 

I will then choose either 5w30 or 5w40 oil.

 

I will go with fully synthetic.

 

I know PD engines are very fussy with oils that's why I've had to make sure its going to be right.

505 01 or 507 00, no oils will be both, as far as I know.

No other details need your attention.

 

 

Edited 19 July, 20214 yr by Wino

On 19/07/2021 at 08:09, Wino said:

505 01 or 507 00, no oils will be both, as far as I know.

No other details need your attention.

 

 

 

So the 505.01 oil will need service shorter.

 

The 507.00 oil can be extended from what's being shown below.

 

What's the mileage difference between the 2?

 

Thanks

On 19/07/2021 at 08:18, e-Roottoot said:

So the 505.01 oil will need service shorter.

 

The 507.00 oil can be extended from what's being shown below.

 

What's the mileage difference between the 2?

 

Thanks for the picture  it clears a lot of things up.

Someone here might confirm, as i could be wrong and often am,

but i think your diesel engine was not given at the time of launch a Variable Servicing code, ie variable / flexible / long life services, 18,000-20,000 miles.

 

This is the Mk2 Fabia Oil Chart.   The 1.4 TSI vRS was Fixed Service Intervals by the Code VW / Skoda used until 2011 then the Code changed to allow Variable / Fixed Servicing.

 

With these engines the VW504 00 could be used for Fixed or Variable servicing but if you used VW 502 00 then that had to be Fixed Service / Oil Changes, 9,400 miles / 372 days or sooner.

 

On this chart for the  Mk2 Fasbias the Q16 / QG1 code is suitable for Variable / Flexible oil change intervals.

The far right codes are Fixed Oil Change Intervals.

(These are Petrol Engines not Diesels.)  There will be a diesel chart someplace.

 

Edited 20 July, 20214 yr by e-Roottoot

33 minutes ago, e-Roottoot said:

but i think your diesel engine was not given at the time of launch a Variable Servicing code, ie variable / flexible / long life services, 18,000-20,000 miles.

I think "variable service" was only available with the oil quality sensor, and AFAIK that was never installed on any Fabia 1.

Partially correct Ken.

Sump sensors were installed on Mk1 Fabias, but not ones sold in the UK market.

And they are oil level and temperature sensors, not oil quality sensors.

 

Just service the car every year, or every 10 000 miles or so if that's sooner, and use 505 01 oil which is generally cheaper than 507 00.

 

 

 

& does anyone really want to leave the oil & filter longer than 10,000 miles or a year in their cherished vehicle.

 

PS

Oil really is cheap these days.

Discount Stores and other supermarkets sell it and often discount day by day as they use it to catch out other supermarkets on the cost of the shopping basket.

 

Edited 20 July, 20214 yr by e-Roottoot

1 hour ago, e-Roottoot said:

& does anyone really want to leave the oil & filter longer than 10,000 miles or a year in their cherished vehicle.

 

PS

Oil really is cheap these days.

Discount Stores and other supermarkets sell it and often discount day by day as they use it to catch out other supermarkets on the cost of the shopping basket.

 

 

Ideally oil would be changed frequently. Cost of own bought oil is not a major issue, its the hassle of getting it done. If you can't or won't do it yourself, you have to find, book, pay someone to do it, find time (off work) and make arrangements to drop off and pick up the car, arrange alternative transport etc. Some places will only want to use oils and filters they supply at ridiculous mark ups. Difficult to know if they actually changed the oil, with what and how in a PD diesel, as it will always be black when you check. The cost and time and inconvenience of this option is significant. Skoda will charge £185 and may try to persuade you that several other jobs costing hundreds of pounds also need to be done.

 

On the other hand, if you are nifty and DIY competent then if you can spare at least half a day off work or other commitments and you are fit enough and have the right place/tools and means of disposing of old oil, you can save lots of dosh. However, DIY servicing is discounted by many would be buyers as proper servicing and so may impact the future selling potential of your car.

 

I myself have become increasingly physically infirm in old age and can no longer do many jobs I once could or would. As the cars I buy are keepers, when warranties expire, I often default to 1 year / 9400 mile oil changes which I can still do myself with filter changes every second oil change except for the fabia 1.2htp which has a very small oil filter and never was offered in the UK on extended service regime  anyway. No problems running to 150,000 miles so far.

 

Being the OP has a PD engine, I would say stick to an oil and filter change every 9,400 miles / 1 year max as they are known to suffer major top end damage if the oil is tired/diluted with diesel or simply not up to the job. 

 

 

 

 

Pains me to say,  but Kwik fit charge just under £50 to do an Oil & Filter change on a 1,400 cc engine.

Dead handy if you can book a time, or a bay is free as you are passing.  You can sit in the waiting room, see the fitter put the car on the ramp, open the bonnet and remove the filler cap, lift the ramp, do the drain and filter change and maybe a sump plug or a washer and then top up the oil.

 

You might even catch them putting a dirty finger mark on a filter they wiped clean and never changed, but that is another story that can end with them getting a kick in the groin.

Problem with Kwikfit is knowing whether the oil used is suitable (505.01 or 507) and whether they use a quality filter and not a Champion type filter.

 

Price is from £49.99 but is extra cost if your car requires specialist oil (which it does), which will be charged if you point it out to them, but maybe not used .

 

Also there is a possibility of them finding "oil in coolant" as happened with daughter in law, as well as the usual "brakes or tyres need changing". 

Only really a problem if you do not ask or have not the powers of speech or hearing. 

You ask, and if it is specialist oils then that is what it needs and if they are charging for basic oil at extra cost then you can say tara.

 

If people are going to have people take advantage of them then that is an issue for them.

1 hour ago, e-Roottoot said:

You might even catch them putting a dirty finger mark on a filter they wiped clean and never changed, but that is another story that can end with them getting a kick in the groin.

OP has a 1.4TDi George so an internal oil filter. It's in front of the engine with a black cap you undo (32mm spanner IIRC) Might even be bigger, it's been a while. 36mm also rings a bell.

Edited 20 July, 20214 yr by @Lee

I was generalising what might happen and what i have seen, not going through the oil change of the OP's vehicle by a fleet of foot dancer who might be a chancer.

It is unbelievable what Large Corporations that change hands and stay in business for decades can have employees getting away with.

 

Customers trust in them as they do at Main Dealerships and often 'Offers' are loss leaders to get the upselling opportunities.

Edited 20 July, 20214 yr by e-Roottoot

9 minutes ago, e-Roottoot said:

I was generalising what might happen and what i have seen, not going through the oil change of the OP's vehicle by a fleet of foot dancer who might be a chancer.

It is unbelievable what Large Corporations that change hands and stay in business for decades can have employees getting away with.

 

Customers trust in them as they do at Main Dealerships and often 'Offers' are loss leaders to get the upselling opportunities.

Yeah totally agree there's some shysters who'll just wipe the filter rather than replace. Another one is just using an airline to clean the air filter before wiping the seal with a rag.
Kwik-Fit amongst the worst IME. £10 once to change a failed brake light bulb for the MoT. I said stuff that. Walked a minute or so down the road and picked one up for £1.99