& now VW have Hybrids showing at the 1.4TSI requiring to be serviced at 8,000 miles or 9,000 miles, or 9,400 miles depending on where you read it or who tells you or a VW, a Skoda, Seat or Audi.

 

They actually mean Oil & Filter change at fixed annual / miles and not a 'Service'  as such, but they will take the cash however.

 

The Green revolution of using almost no liquid fuel because for short trips you can charge and run on electric is just so much kidology unless there are dealership going to charge fair prices to change the oil and filter on engines that might only run a few hours weekly, monthly or even annually for some drivers.

I've been using a 2018 1.5TSI eco Octavia 3 from new to its current 37000 miles and it has used a litre every 4500 miles or so consistently. It's the only car I have owned or used that has done this. My previous Skoda's (1.9 TDi PD, 2.0 TDI PD, and 2 CR 2.0 TDI's), have used a litre max every 10K miles, if that. Even my near 15 year old Toyota 2.2 D4D engined Corolla only uses 0.2-0.3 litres max every 10K miles. Like said already, the 0-20W oil is very thin. The only positive is that if you get caught out at least the add oil warning is before it reaches minimum. Shame it doesn't have a oil level display on the dash like some French stuff does on start up.

It's also the only car I have ever owned that has almost zero engine braking effect on the motorway when I let off the accelerator. I guess that's low friction for efficiency.

 

I had to put in a ltr of oil yesterday just 10k on the clock 2021 2.0 VRS Diesel

As the owners manual tells for every engine type and has done for decades.  May use more oil In the first 5,000 km. Or similar words.    Checking the level cold then at operating temp after collecting a new car, a used car or a borrowed car, or after a service is simply clever.  You want to know the car has enough oil from the off.

Aside from meeting the VW specification (W508 00 I believe, for the 1.5tsi) what’s the best oil and seller?
 

Would be easy to nip down to Halfords and buy a can of ‘xyz’ brand. But something tells me Castrol or Mobil 1 may be the better way to go.

 

Suggestions/recommendations please…

 

thanks.

Edited 30 October, 20214 yr by sneal

As long as to VW 508 00 / 509 00 you can nip to Asda, Tesco or anyplace with own brand. Comma, Quantum / Fuchs or anything.  No need for Branded profiting because they spend more advertising. 

On 30/08/2021 at 19:47, roottoot said:

@zetzet even if left for 24 months between oil and filter changes that is not going to happen.

And yet (mistakenly) this is what so many manufacturers (to appease fleet buyers) use for servicing. Not a problem for the first owner, numerous problems later though.

@byteme you have just quoted a reply that was about oil turning to sludge & gluing everything up if left for 30,000 km.  

?

Have you seen the oil turning to sludge when left unchanged for 18,600 miles or more?

 

I have with my 2.0TDI and others when getting over that and towards 20,000 miles, not with a TSI though. 

 

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/455376-oil-service-really-required

One i was driving and never owned and that i was not going to change the oil in but that needed plenty of topping up.

2016 2.0 ltr TDI SCR.  Among the last of the great emission test cheaters. 

Edited 12 November, 20214 yr by roottoot

8 minutes ago, roottoot said:

@byteme you have just quoted a reply that was about oil turning to sludge & gluing everything up if left for 30,000 km.  

?

Have you seen the oil turning to sludge when left unchanged for 18,600 miles or more?

 

I have with my 2.0TDI and others when getting over that and towards 20,000 miles, not with a TSI though. 

Yes, the point I was making is that MANUFACTURERS extend service intervals to satisfy fleet and first buyers. It's a ridiculous situation and some have learned from it. At one point Vauxhall has a 30,000 mile oil change interval, massive warranty claims quickly changed that but no manufacturer has much interest after three years. Beyond that it's someone else's problem and cost.

@byteme  Which years was this with Vauxhall and with what engines? 

 

The Corsa-E forum was being talked about last night in the Offtopic Section because of the Stray Dog Thread. 

Edited 12 November, 20214 yr by roottoot

7 minutes ago, roottoot said:

@byteme  Which years was this with Vauxhall and with what engines? 

 

The Corsa-E forum was being talked about last night in the Offtopic Section because of the Stray Dog Thread. 

Mine was an 05 plate car, an Astra SRi.

 

Different times.

I had a Subaru when they introduced 18,000 mile first oil services.

Cars were becoming dangerous because people actually used them for what they were built to do and the cars were getting no inspections underneath from having left the factory because they were not into a dealership.

The engines were coping well, the drivetrains were not.

27 minutes ago, roottoot said:

Different times.

I had a Subaru when they introduced 18,000 mile first oil services.

Cars were becoming dangerous because people actually used them for what they were built to do and the cars were getting no inspections underneath from having left the factory because they were not into a dealership.

The engines were coping well, the drivetrains were not.

And problems compound over time.

On 13/08/2021 at 09:45, Ootohere said:

As the owners manual says,  May use more oil in the first 5,000 km.  so now the car has done over 7,600 km. 

 

So checking oil with VW Group Engines is something needed, especially when collected new or after services as below the correct level is not unusual. 

& the cold checks are good to see if there is oil, but the checks should be done with the oil at operating temp.

 

So that needs done now with the VW 508 00 oil you have used put in. That is 0w 20 FS IV,  and not VW 504 00,  5w 30 FS III

 

PS

Forget about the past and TSI's and TDI's that were before the WLTP / RDE and VW Group going to 0w 20 FS IV,

Plenty 'Burning Oil' threads in the sections over the past 3 years for Kodiaq, Karoq, Octavia and Superb were owners never checked the oil in a 1.5 TSI.

There is not a problem, just the need to maybe top up oil early on depending on how the vehicle is used, do not wait for warning lights or messages.

 

 

 

On 03/09/2021 at 16:06, zetzet said:

New Toyota hybrids use 0w16 oil.  But they're not turbocharged. 

 

my 2023 octavia 2.0 needed 500ml oil on 4K km 😞 , and another 500ml on 6K km 😞 ,  I hope at 10K km will not ask again for oil

 

On 30/08/2021 at 21:46, VRS_White_Hatch said:

😁 One thing I have noticed about oil, we're all experts - as in whatever WE do is the right and only way to do it - including me, obviously. 

 

I've seen a thread or two where new cars used oil in the first few 000 miles, I checked mine several times but didn't see any drop - but it was on 6k or similar when I got it, so might have already been topped up. 

hello

mine it is the 3rd time yesterday 

today I have to shout to the dealer 😀

On 13/08/2021 at 09:45, Ootohere said:

As the owners manual says,  May use more oil in the first 5,000 km.  so now the car has done over 7,600 km. 

 

So checking oil with VW Group Engines is something needed, especially when collected new or after services as below the correct level is not unusual. 

& the cold checks are good to see if there is oil, but the checks should be done with the oil at operating temp.

 

So that needs done now with the VW 508 00 oil you have used put in. That is 0w 20 FS IV,  and not VW 504 00,  5w 30 FS III

 

PS

Forget about the past and TSI's and TDI's that were before the WLTP / RDE and VW Group going to 0w 20 FS IV,

Plenty 'Burning Oil' threads in the sections over the past 3 years for Kodiaq, Karoq, Octavia and Superb were owners never checked the oil in a 1.5 TSI.

There is not a problem, just the need to maybe top up oil early on depending on how the vehicle is used, do not wait for warning lights or messages.

 

 

 

for 7700 km it took 1.3 liters in addition, this is the second bottle opened 😞 

My 3 month old vRS TDI used 1.5 litres in the first 5k miles. I hope it’s because the engine is new, can’t be good for the DPF longterm. 

Ive noticed my 2023 Superb using a bit of oil, bought at 8k when the car was just serviced ( as bought from a dealer ) its now on 12.5k and its dropped on the dipstick to half way, so not dangerously low but heading that way, i can sometimes smell slight oil smell into the car, im assuming this is the new engine bedding in but dont feel confident about it at all.

What grade is the correct oil for a 2.0 TDI 200bhp?