Why hello there,

 

Last week i serviced an old polo with a similar integrated style brake caliper bracket as the Fabia.

And to my surprise it had brake hardware (the metallic shim where the brake pads slide on)

 

I have never been able to find those shims for the FS III brakes

My question to you: Is there some sort of hardware that fits on the Fabia ?

Because i run into Fabia's with binding brake (uneven wear, sticky pads, brake vibration) pads quite often as ceramic paste / copper grease does not tend to stay on the ears of the pads or the surface they ride on very long.

Plus the surfaces they ride on have by now seen some corrosion (or heavy filing) through out the years.

 

Anyone has a mechanics tip/trick up their sleeve for this problem ?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Edited 14 August, 20214 yr by Xsr

I find just removing all the rust until you get back to the original flat surfaces is all that's necessary.  It doesn't seem to return that quickly either.

I don't know of any shims that fit, but I've never looked.

Was this Polo from the same point in history, approximately, and did it have FSIII calipers?  9N Polo doesn't show any such shims: disc brake - Polo/Derby/Vento-IND(PO) [EUROPA 2002 year] (7zap.com)

 

My wife had a 2002 VW Polo 1.4 16V with FS111 front callipers and from new it never had any of these plated shim/springs on the front brakes, it did have them on the rear discs though.

 

Over 13 years and 105K miles, I never had any issues with the brakes rubbing, I serviced them every other year until it was maybe 6 years old, then serviced the brakes every year - by servicing I mean that I removed the callipers from their mounting, removed the pads and clean up both, rubbing with a file at times to reduce the corrosion, and used Copaslip, ie copper loaded grease on all the metal to metal contact points.

 

I think that what a previous owner has done, was to see that some disc brakes use these shims/springs and bought a set that fitted these FS111 callipers. Now and again I think about buying a set of shims/springs for my wife's 2015 Polo 1,2TSI, probably from the 9N Polo, and try to fit them to the rear callipers as VW Group no longer fit them - but the only issue could be that the calliper mounting bracket for later cars might have been slightly altered so that these shims/springs are no longer fitted - and that could cause the pads to end up seizing if I did fit them. 

In a similar way, on your Polo, maybe a previous owner has filed the front pads to allow them to be used with extra shims/springs - just a thought.

The polo in question was a polo coupe from the 80s era.

This thing had a lot of (low budget) work done on it though. All round disk brakes etc.

I should have checked what type of hardware it was running, it was most certainly from the same family but older than the FS III. (I don't have the experience to be able to identify them on the spot)

Same style mounting bracket, lock pins, and caliper, just older.

 

It just struck me as odd that it also had the integrated mounting bracket and yet had pad clips/shims that worked so well. as every single one of them i've encountered thus far didn't have brake clips/shims. (including new cars)

But they fit like a glove, rather narrow shims too.

 

Hence me wondering if something was out there for a Fabia.

59 minutes ago, Xsr said:

the FS III. (I don't have the experience to be able to identify them on the spot)

The FSIII caliper literally has those characters cast into the caliper, about 25 mm high.

There is a probability that that 80's Polo coupe had either VW11 front callipers with 239 X 10mm discs, or ATE front callipers with 239 X 20mm discs. Both of them seemed to use 191 615 269A and 191 615 270A "retainers" on each front calliper. These would be much older calliper designs than FS11 or FS111 etc.

33 minutes ago, KenONeill said:

The FSIII caliper literally has those characters cast into the caliper, about 25 mm high.

 

Yes i am aware of it. The polo ones looked like it but didn't have its type stamped in it. Just looked like it came from the same family

13 hours ago, rum4mo said:

There is a probability that that 80's Polo coupe had either VW11 front callipers with 239 X 10mm discs, or ATE front callipers with 239 X 20mm discs. Both of them seemed to use 191 615 269A and 191 615 270A "retainers" on each front calliper. These would be much older calliper designs than FS11 or FS111 etc.

 

Those are the exact retainers !

And yes they are much older.

 

Too bad, i like putting fresh retainers down for piece of mind.

Was kinda hoping someone figured out how to get retainers on those style brackets.

 

Thanks for your feedback guys.