Hello All,

 

I have an intermittent ECS light. It comes on only after a couple of hours drive and seems not to affect any performance at all.

 

Out of curiosity I got an OBD reader and got P2B93 and "manufacturers fault code" Engine: 37662. I have not reset anything (yet).

 

I can find the first one as possible Nox heater. The second is a mystery. Google has not turned up anything at all. Dealer is two hours away

so if I can avoid a trip that would be nice.

 

Can anyone suggest where to look for the 37662 code ?

 

Thank you all

2 hours ago, Polaris said:

P2B93

This is not a recognised VAG fault code (wrong format). Try your OBD manufacturer's website.

I've asked a neighbour but I think also there's a thread on here with codes, perhaps it's on Freedom I'll have to look, and I'll try Google too as I can can be hit - but also miss with it.

 

7 minutes ago, KenONeill said:

This is not a recognised VAG fault code (wrong format). Try your OBD manufacturer's website.

Good spot I read it as P2093.

3 minutes ago, nta16 said:

Good spot I read it as P2093.

Cool; this is part of my job, and a recurring issue with cheap OBD readers.

32 minutes ago, KenONeill said:

cheap OBD readers

That's why I asked my neighbour as he has a selection of "cheap" scan programs and it'll test what code lists he's transferred or backed up elsewhere.

 

ECS to engine had me wondering - but it's computer stuff so if it can it will, I'd always go with car battery condition and charge as a first anyway.  😄

 

@Polaris are you going to share what age of Fabia it is and what engine and fuel it uses?

Polaris,

just looked at your other posts - I've been driving 1960s and 1970s cars as dailies for the last 30 years so I can understand your frustration with modern cars so may be more on the same page with you, but like you, I hope, I expect a certain level of driver input to the driving and driver maintenance so if you're neglecting the basics just because its a modern car I will moan like an old man can.

 

It's easy to do as I've managed to do it - you could help yourself and others by putting more car info on your profile like the model (e.g. 1.2 TSI, 5-speed manual) and the year.**

 

Having a code is only a start to diagnosis it how that's interrogated and interpreted that matters, I could have a book on prostate surgery and read a page from it but you wouldn't want me anywhere near, same if I had a scantool! 

 

ETA: ** I've just added 1.2 TSI to mine to check how to do it -

• click on your site name (at top right of this page)
• drop down menu appears - click on 'Account Settings'
• on that page - click on 'Edit Profile' (in 'Other Settings' box)
• on that page scroll down to 'Car Info' and add details
• bottom right of page - click on 'Save'.

 

Edited 9 September, 20214 yr by nta16
ETA:

First of all, thank you all for replying and apologies for not being specific about age and make - It is the

 

Fabia iii 1.0l 94bhp petrol - manual

colour edition.

Age 2019 just under 2 years. 

 

As regards the two fault codes - what I typed is exactly what I typed from Carista. The first one P2B93 did return a VAG result (the Nox heater) 

 

@NTA16 Thank you for spotting that I came from an old car directly to modern electronics without intermediate stages. 

 

I took the car to a well regarded local garage for a proper diagnostic. They had done the first service. As soon as they found the car was still in warranty they wouldn't plug in their machine. Hence my Carista. 

 

Funnily. A few weeks ago Bristol Street motors phoned me to try to buy it back. It is just the inconvenience of replacing it. 

Hi Polaris,

my neighbour hasn't replied yet, I don't know if he has Carista as he has a few, but don't think so.

 

I'm no help on this technical or mechanical stuff and only know a bit about my wife's model, the 1.2 TSI. but I do know about not having or really needing all of this modern stuff but some of it can be nice on occasions.

 

I am a bit more confused than usual though as you put an engine type code and I took "ECS" as a typo for ESC Electronic Stability Control, I know there can be links but ECS got me.

 

I'm very much in to if the car battery is low, but it could still start the car and lights seem fine, the battery could still be too low for all those computers and they throw a wobbly and all sorts of random lights and actions might follow.

 

Very interesting that the Dealership should want to buy it back, is it that they have sales for it or other reason(s) do you know?

 

To save you repeating your car details you could add them to your name thingy that appears on every post, I've put the route to do so in my previous post.

 

As my only car for the last 14 years has been a 1973 MG Midget, a basic car even by the standards of the 70s so I never have to worry about the state of battery charge, I can relate any modern stuff you don't fully follow to old stuff we're used to, often only once I've found out what the modern stuff is.  😀

 

Cheers.

Edited 10 September, 20214 yr by nta16

@Polaris  Bristol Street motors would love to sell you a car.

 

Go in and look at a lovely new car and get the price to change they give after valuing your car. 

Then after all the figures are done and they ask if you want to sign today say you have changed your mind but they can buy your car.

 

Then you find out how keen they are to purchase it.   Used prices are high, or actually asking prices are but they are not going to be that generous. 

I get the idea that it might be a buy back rather than a trade-in, these are very unusual times.

 

When we bought my wife's car 5 years ago I could believe how inept the Dealership was at preparing the car for test drive, sale, and then collection but I couldn't believe how long the simple sale took, and over two visits.  First visit we were literally stopped as we were driving out of the customer parking because after lord knows how long trying to sort the simple sale the salesman didn't know to check with his manager to get over a simple negotiating sticking point so we literally walked away from the sale.  No way would I now have enough lifeforce left in me to waste so much time and remain so polite whilst being offered stuff I said at the very start and repeated each time we wouldn't buy.

 

Unless things have changed in the last 5 years generally car salesmen remain a certain type that I for one find very difficult to get along with and certainly wouldn't fully trust and I can assure you it does NOT have to be that way with sales of anything.

 

Edited 10 September, 20214 yr by nta16

These are very unusual times,  but salespeople are really just as desperate to turn over vehicles.

They want to profit at sales, then at resales, and selling again or just punting to auction and getting shot of them.  

Plenty rubbish stock is sitting not moving and plenty used ease / fleet / motability cars are coming in, just a slight reduction because of Covid / Lockdows. 

There are delays though as peoples new cars are delayed.

 

The just need buyers / borrowers to get the used stuff gone. 

Yes I can see just getting an existing customer in might help lead to another sale but buy back to me would mean different to trade-in.  Best to make certain with the initial phone call and when going in what the situation is.  I don't blame a salesman doing his job but any dishonest would not be rewarded by me.

 

Delays with chips as cars now have so many computers in them.  My neighbour collects cars at ends of contracts, all sorts, but he's not back at work yet.

 

Well according to the sales chap they were short of stock and assuming good condition might consider £10k. Which was the same as webuyanycar.com.

 

 

Many are fine with doing a deal just below WBAC because they know that they are not going to be left without some profit.

 

Now WBAC have real competition with the various others that will 'buy' vehicles.

 

It can be the time to get rid of a car if you are not wanting a trade in.

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/497015-as-the-dukes-would-say-sell-sell-sell

 

I don't know but I could imagine that situation.

 

From what little I've been told we-buy-any-car I think start with a price then at actual inspect knock points (Pounds) off.  Obviously some people think their car is in a certain condition when it's not, anyone that has been to see a few s/h cars for private sale will know this, people see a value given to car like theirs and immediately think theirs is as good or better when very often it's not.  That's why some many people don't buy privately but will go to a garage yet that s/h car could have been from private owner.

 

If prices are high now is a good time to sell but obviously conversely not to buy, unless perhaps a distress sale that needs to go quickly so at a good price.

 

 

 

Yeah from what I've seen things are even more heated in USA with new cars that are available selling well above recommended prices and people selling out of contracts to cash in so s/h prices rising.  Can't blame anyone for jumping if there's a gain  but there will be knock-on effects later.  Some will gain full-stop, some with have short or medium gain and will always be the ones moaning later at the overall loss of that gain.

 

Think of the children. 🤣

 

Anyway - bringing us back to the subject of my post. Can anyone direct me to a website where I can try to work out what the Carista codes meant. Google not being useful 

 

Just to refresh - the Carista showed 

engine code 37662
obd fault P2B93

 

@nta16 suggested pos battery. After 2 years? Light on comes on after an hour or so.

 

Dashcam is only accessory fitted to fuse board. I tend to drive in cruise control all the time. Especially in town. 

24 minutes ago, Polaris said:

obd fault P2B93

I already said that is not a VAG fault code; they have a format of A9999. Maybe try P2893?

@Polaris

Are you 2 hours away from any Skoda Dealership where your car can get plugged in and you find out if you have an issue that will be covered under the warranty.

?

How many miles has your car done, and did the light just start showing before you posted here?

 

The ESC light is Electronic Stability Control on your car is it not?

 

EDIT.

Mk3 Fabia Owners Manual.

 

Edited 11 September, 20214 yr by e-Roottoot

Polaris,

I know near enough sweet FA about mechanics and car computer programs but going back to basics if you think of the car battery more like a fuel tank than an engine then it can get depleted regularly regardless of age.  Obviosity a newer battery with a newer alternator and newer engine and ancillaries should run more efficiently and be more robust to use and abuse but there are limits. I've no idea if the  battery is causing any of this but if you're used to old cars you'll know how important a good battery in good condition and state of charge is - well it's even more so with these modern cars with their computers and programs and loads of active(passive?)  drain when the car is used and not.

 

I've no idea about the Fabia computer programs but others have interaction with engine and braking and the braking could be mixed in with the electronic stability controls.

 

I'm fairly new to this errors codes and the numbers, which are only pointers that require further diagnostics, which has usually been the case even with deeper levels scan tools, which normally might only point you in the correct direction rather than give you the 100% absolute answer.

 

I always first like to try the simple easy and often very low cost or free solutions if they don't work you've lost next to nothing and always you can rarely progress efficiently and successfully without first covering the basics.

 

Most cars and particularly modern cars are no good  at lots of only short journeys.

 

Thanks again everyone for your efforts. It looks like a drive to dealer. I just hate long drives. 

 

In respect of the codes reading wrong. They are cut and paste from the Carista screen. What you see is what I see. 

 

Best wishes to you all

 

 

Are you really 100 miles or more from a Authorised Repairer for Skoda Warranties?

Ha ha. No. Just a lot of hills.