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Can I change from 18" wheels to 16" wheels?

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27 minutes ago, Routemaster1461 said:

Both of the tyre sizes quoted in the post above are standard load rating, the 16" are available as 92 and 96 load index, and the 18" as 89 and 93. So assuming equal loads front and back, the 16" tyres can support 2524 or 2840kg, the 18" 2320 or 2600kg. So I would suggest that the 16" tyres are standard 92s, and 18" are 93 Extra loads.

 

205/60R16 (load index 92) and 205/60R16 XL eXtraLoad (load index 96) can support the same load when inflated to the same pressure. The XL tyre can only support a higher load than the non-XL tyre in the same size when inflated above 44psi (3 Bar).

 

So if you inflate 205/60R16 tyres in non-XL and XL say to 36psi (2.5 Bar) they can only support the same weight as each other.

 

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Following up my post on this, I have been using 32psi on all four tyres , Michelin Primacy 4 205.55.R17. I think I have found the sweet spot for comfort with these wheels and tyres but I will be putting them to a motorway test next month, driving the full length of the M6 which is always a joy.

For your information, I was searching the web for a price on 4 Cross Climates when I saw a link on KwikFit for recommended tyre pressures. It gave 30 psi for the Kamiq, front and back for 16 - 18 inch wheels.

47 minutes ago, cestrian said:

Following up my post on this, I have been using 32psi on all four tyres , Michelin Primacy 4 205.55.R17. I think I have found the sweet spot for comfort with these wheels and tyres but I will be putting them to a motorway test next month, driving the full length of the M6 which is always a joy.

For your information, I was searching the web for a price on 4 Cross Climates when I saw a link on KwikFit for recommended tyre pressures. It gave 30 psi for the Kamiq, front and back for 16 - 18 inch wheels.


If you are going cross climate, then choose the new improved version cross climate 2. (the original and plus version have been superseded, but old stock likely to still being sold)

 

However if you stick with the 18 inch with 215/45 R18 89V tyres then very limited choice in all season tyres.  Vredestein quatrac Pro, Hankook Kinergy 4S2, Continental all season contact, and some cheaper (less good) ones from Maxxis, Goodride, Minerva etc.

 

 

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I don't have 18" now. I swapped them for 17".

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I have changed the wheels and tyres to black gloss Dezent TR alloys with Crossclimate 2 tyres. They were inflated to 36 psi by the fitter. I've dropped that to 32 psi and will see how that goes over the coming months. Now I have to decide whether to sell or keep the 17" Braga alloys and tyres and use them during the summer (3 months) to prolong the life of the Crossclimates.

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On 23/07/2022 at 14:52, cestrian said:

I have changed the wheels and tyres to black gloss Dezent TR alloys with Crossclimate 2 tyres. They were inflated to 36 psi by the fitter. I've dropped that to 32 psi and will see how that goes over the coming months. Now I have to decide whether to sell or keep the 17" Braga alloys and tyres and use them during the summer (3 months) to prolong the life of the Crossclimates.

Reading my above post I have missed out the size of my new wheels. They are 16 inch with 205/60/16  tyres. The ride quality has increased from the 17 inch wheels

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I've attached a photo of my Kamiq with the 16 inch alloys. I chose black as they don't look as dirty as quickly as silver alloys. 

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19 hours ago, cestrian said:

I've attached a photo of my Kamiq with the 16 inch alloys. I chose black as they don't look as dirty as quickly as silver alloys. 

 

Good look!

 

If I were you I would choose ENKEI YAMATO IN 16 INCH. They are similar to yours new tyres in design, but have 7,8 kg ( instead of 9,2 kg)

Yes, I do believe in theory of unsprung mass for cars. 

 

https://velonity.com/enkei-yamato-matt-gunmetal-16-inch-en02-701640-v6-54/skoda-kamiq-typee-nw-rim/1-5l-tsi-110kw-150-hp/

3 hours ago, Allesandu said:

Good look!

 

If I were you I would choose ENKEI YAMATO IN 16 INCH. They are similar to yours new tyres in design, but have 7,8 kg ( instead of 9,2 kg)

Yes, I do believe in theory of unsprung mass for cars. 

 

https://velonity.com/enkei-yamato-matt-gunmetal-16-inch-en02-701640-v6-54/skoda-kamiq-typee-nw-rim/1-5l-tsi-110kw-150-hp/

 

Those aftermarket rims are 7Jx16.

 

The Kamiq uses narrower 6Jx16 rims.

 

Fitting 205/60R16 tyres to wider 7J rims will make the ride a lot harder than using the standard 6J rims.

 

Also, the tyres' sidewalls won't bulge out as much, resulting in far less protection from kerbing damage.

 

6Jx16 steel rims for the Kamiq weigh about 7.3kg, which is over 6% lighter than those 7.8kg alloy rims.

 

6Jx16 ET40 steel rims 7.3kg

https://eshop.skoda-auto.cz/cs_CZ/plechovy-disk-16-/p/2Q0601027AA03C

 

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4 hours ago, Allesandu said:

Good look!

 

If I were you I would choose ENKEI YAMATO IN 16 INCH. They are similar to yours new tyres in design, but have 7,8 kg ( instead of 9,2 kg)

Yes, I do believe in theory of unsprung mass for cars. 

I chose the cheapest option I could get from a local dealer which compared favourably with anyone else. The two things I specified were the choice of tyres and black alloys. I wasn't bothered about style of alloy, more about comfort.

Looks good.

 

Someones idea of a ride being much harder might be actually a little harder, or not harder actually. 

Some people want the sporty look, want the handling to go with the look. if they want a car that looks like the most basic ones from a Health Board  or Meter Reading Fleet with Steel Wheels and bulging tyres to be able to touch park kerbs then that is an easy look to go with. 

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1 hour ago, Carlston said:

 

Those aftermarket rims are 7Jx16.

 

The Kamiq uses narrower 6Jx16 rims.

 

Fitting 205/60R16 tyres to wider 7J rims will make the ride a lot harder than using the standard 6J rims.

 

Also, the tyres' sidewalls won't bulge out as much, resulting in far less protection from kerbing damage.

 

6Jx16 steel rims for the Kamiq weigh about 7.3kg, which is over 6% lighter than those 7.8kg alloy rims.

 

6Jx16 ET40 steel rims 7.3kg

https://eshop.skoda-auto.cz/cs_CZ/plechovy-disk-16-/p/2Q0601027AA03C

 

Agree with You to some extent.

But I don't like how steel rims looks.

And i don't talk anyone into. I just share my opinion

It is good when tyres are explained and for regions and it is not just assumed newest is best for any persons use, region, vehicle, seasons and temperatures. 

 

This was out in 2020.

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Allesandu said:

Agree with you to some extent, but I don't like how steel rims look.

 

Most people prefer the look of alloy rims compared to steel rims.

 

My comment about steel rims was about the weight.

 

As you can see in the photo below, steel rims are never going to win any beauty competitions.

 

3 Tricks to Remove Rust From Steel Wheels | Magica, Inc.

 

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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

There are even £35,000 VW EV's running Steel Wheels with wheel covers. 

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I remember years ago, before alloys became widely available, spray painting the steel wheels on my cars. Wash the wheels, take them off the car. Mask the tyres, spray the new paint which was usually some shade of silver. Wait a short while then put the wheel back on. Repeat above. It was much cheaper than buying new steel wheel trims. I had a Morris Marina coupe 1.8 with wide steel wheels which looked a bit like the wheels on the green car above. I fitted telescopic shock absorbers but it was still lousy on corners.

https://www.willtheyfit.com/wheels/
 

Of course you can choose other wheels.

 

I use winter wheels so have often selected new wheels.  From 19” to 17”.  From 17” to 16”.

 

Just check your overall diameter is close to the original wheel diameter and check the wheel offset (ET value) suits your car.

 

On a previous Superb I bought 16” steel wheels & tyres from a dealer.

 

For my first Kodiaq I bought 17” black alloys from a dealer and tyres online.

 

For a Polo I bought genuine VW 16” wheels online from a European trader and tyres online.

 

All good.

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On 31/10/2021 at 10:31, SurreyJohn said:


If you are going cross climate, then choose the new improved version cross climate 2. (the original and plus version have been superseded, but old stock likely to still being sold)

 

However if you stick with the 18 inch with 215/45 R18 89V tyres then very limited choice in all season tyres.  Vredestein quatrac Pro, Hankook Kinergy 4S2, Continental all season contact, and some cheaper (less good) ones from Maxxis, Goodride, Minerva etc.

 

 


Apparently Michelin cross climate 2 range has now been increased to 127 sizes including 215/45 R18 (with higher load rating of 93)

 

Now on Michelin website, even if stock not yet arrived at dealers

 

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