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Yes they do light up good as they do also also on mine.

The problem I have is that the camera seems to be low end. When car having LEDs is followed by halogen car, the last guy usually gets dazzled by me as high beam assist does not think this is a car actually.

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28 minutes ago, xspartx said:

They light up the road very well.

 

I don't think I'll bother with the "auto dip" thing, as I just manually dip out of habit and have done for 35 years.

 

If you have this function, it doesn't appear that you can disable through the menus. Won't that mean pushing the stalk away from you twice every time you need main beam?

1 hour ago, xspartx said:

and have done for 35 years.

 

Yeah. I`ve done it for 38 years, but times do change.

Is there any sign that the matrix lights "bend" to follow the steering?  I'd understood that they didn't, but on a recent video of the Enyaq it looked like those did (at least to some extent).

My Superb 2 had bending lights,

I don`t think it`s necessary anymore, as matrix lights are matrix. They do all he focus dimmering LED sections instead of mechanically moving the cluster section.

1 hour ago, linni said:

 

Yeah. I`ve done it for 38 years, but times do change.

 

My point is that it's automatic now.  

 

Anyway I haven't had to do it yet, so can't really  comment on whether it can be disabled or not.

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If you have Matrix, it`s all automatic.

Just wandering, if it`s as good as Audi has.

3 hours ago, xspartx said:

I don't think I'll bother with the "auto dip" thing, as I just manually dip out of habit and have done for 35 years.

 

And herein lies the issue I was talking about - trying to turn the damn things off 'auto' is harder than it should be. You have to push forward to turn 'auto' off (but the beams are still on), then pull back to turn the beams off. By the time you've remembered all that and done it, you've blinded the person coming towards you.

1 hour ago, Dappernut said:

Is there any sign that the matrix lights "bend" to follow the steering?  I'd understood that they didn't, but on a recent video of the Enyaq it looked like those did (at least to some extent).

 There is no need for bending . Matrix will exclude the front lighted object from it`s beam. Shortly said.

Here you go... couple of things to watch for:

 

1. At the start of the video, the 'backwards L' shape of the light cone due to the traffic in front, even though it is quite a way ahead.

2. The light against the trees on the right hand side of the road as the oncoming traffic approaches and then passes.

 

2 hours ago, linni said:

There is no need for bending

I beg to differ.  On an unlit twisty road it's quite useful IMHO.

On 18/12/2021 at 17:12, linni said:

There is no need for bending . Matrix will exclude the front lighted object from it`s beam. Shortly said.

With respect, I don't think you've ever experienced proper bending lights that swing the light cone left or right to match the direction the vehicle is turning.  This is not the same as active matrix blanking out parts of the high beam to avoid dazzling, hence my question.

1 hour ago, Dappernut said:

With respect, I don't think you've ever experienced proper bending lights that swing the light cone left or right to match the direction the vehicle is turning.  

 

No, I haven`t. 

Except two Mondeos and Superb during 2008 - 2019.

 

I guess you missed my point. Nowadays bending is replaced by LED sections in Matrix headlights. Different technology, same result.

I did indeed miss your point.  What you describe seems absolutely feasible to me linni and I'll be very pleased if they do work that way when my new car finally turns up.  I still maintain however that steering the light cone left and right is different to 'masking' parts of the main beam to avoid dazzle even if the technology to achieve both can be the same.  Anyway, moving on...

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In my opinion Matrix should be way better than bending AFS lights.

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So roadtest report - in summary these active matrix LED lights are ridiculously good. My wife says she will never drive our other car at night now we have this…!  
 

Up to about 25mph, there seems to be additional illumination low to the road. That automatically disengages above that speed. 
 

Steering wheel pressure at low speed engages some sort of extra directional lighting. Couldn’t tell if that was happening at higher speeds because…

 

With lights set to the auto-beam setting (tap forward once and the A comes on the dash), above 40(?) mph the illumination is nothing short of incredible. The car proceeds to dip the lights around cars in front of you - on both sides of the road. If you pay attention you can watch it actively turn on and off led in the matrix (hence the name of course!). It creates spookily accurate boxes around things it knows not to blind. I don’t think I got above 40mph the other day which is why it wasn’t working.

 

It seemed to be aware when it is in town where full beams aren’t needed so with streetlights I didn’t think the full beams were running. Tbh I didn’t care. But get out of a town and it’s the brightest light array on a car I’ve ever experienced.

 

One downside is that it of course relies on the camera behind the rear view mirror. Tonight the screen was frozen so I got a warning to clean the camera, but the screen demister didn’t reach that part of the screen in the two impatient minutes I waited. I’m not sure how well it will ever defrost that part of the screen seeing as warm air will never directly make contact with it as the mirror fitting is in the way…

 

First test and only a ten mile round trip, so will see how it goes over time. But wow, what a feature - and standard spec on the Sportline I picked.

On 21/12/2021 at 02:04, linni said:

In my opinion Matrix should be way better than bending AFS lights.

I’ve just bought a Golf 7.5R with dynamic light assist and I honestly prefer it to the Superb and Kodiaq’s matrix headlights. 

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6 minutes ago, ZacDaMan72 said:

I’ve just bought a Golf 7.5R with dynamic light assist and I honestly prefer it to the Superb and Kodiaq’s matrix headlights. 

How is it different to the dynamic cornering assist on the latest Kodiaq? 

12 hours ago, Doombar said:

in summary these active matrix LED lights are ridiculously good

 

Told you 😁.

 

12 hours ago, Doombar said:

Steering wheel pressure at low speed engages some sort of extra directional lighting. Couldn’t tell if that was happening at higher speeds because…

 

It only happens at low speed - and it's actually the fog lights that are turning on to provide that, nothing to do with the matrix units.

 

But yes... nice to know someone else is as impressed as I am. There may well be better versions of the system around, but it does the job and it does it very well. I think the only thing that could top it now for me is some sort of night-vision system projected onto the windscreen (I know you can get night-vision systems, but the output of those is all on dash and/or infotainment systems at the moment, neither of which I want to be looking at when driving down dark roads at speed!).

On the basis  that the manual is total garbage, in practice what does this mean?

 

- We should leave lights selected to auto

- Use high beam when needed and it will auto dip

 

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41 minutes ago, xspartx said:

On the basis  that the manual is total garbage, in practice what does this mean?

 

- We should leave lights selected to auto

- Use high beam when needed and it will auto dip

 

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From what I’ve read here, if you’ve got the new matrix headlights you push the stalk forward and the “a” high beam icon illuminates and above 40 mph  the high beam will come on and will block parts of the  beam to avoid oncoming cars and cars in front with no need for driver intervention.

I believe if you put the high beam on, blue icon on dash, then you need to dip the beam manually, it doesn’t auto dip.

Cant wait to try it in my new Kodiaq ,if it ever arrives.

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55 minutes ago, Kenny R said:

I believe if you put the high beam on, blue icon on dash, then you need to dip the beam manually, it doesn’t auto dip.

 

Nearly... the icon goes blue on Auto as well:

 

White beam icon with 'A' inside - system turned on but main beams not on at all

Blue beam icon with 'A' inside - system turned on an main beams on

Blue icon without 'A' inside - system turned off and main beams on manually

15 hours ago, ZacDaMan72 said:

I’ve just bought a Golf 7.5R with dynamic light assist and I honestly prefer it to the Superb and Kodiaq’s matrix headlights. 

 

That`s no secret that Volkswagen`s yesterday is better than Skoda`s today.

 

1 hour ago, linni said:

That`s no secret that Volkswagen`s yesterday is better than Skoda`s today.

 

Not always the case I don't think.  After sitting in both a new Tiguan and a new Kodiaq I know which I'd rather be in (hint: not the Tiguan).  To be fair to VW however, I'd also rather be in a previous generation Tiguan rather than the current one.  I'm probably just getting old...

Tiguan is a different story. It`s buid quality is infamous.

I was talking about technologies.

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