I'm guessing there are regulations in the UK to stop this modification from being made(or is there)?

Any advice on wither it is or isn't allowed (particually regarding and any regulations relating to a MOT)?

Obviously a proper mounting plate would be welded/bolted to bonnet to hold wheel in place

 

 

 

A UK MOT would not be an issue, you would just remove it when going in for a test.

An insurance Loss Adjuster / Accident Investigator / Police Officer might be interested if there was some accident not even if your fault.

 

'Styling and Car care' seems to be the wrong section as that is not styllee or even fugly in a nice way IMO.

 

Nobody has ever failed a Land Rover / Jeep or whatever for having a spare wheel / tyre on the bonnet.

 

But really why?  Stylee,  doing a long range event? 

Why not get a good string roof carrier and get it up there. 

Strengthen the hinges, strengthen the bonnet catch & do you plating under the bonnet and get a good bonnet stays fitted or assisters.

 

Pity you do not have this model.

Edited 3 July, 20223 yr by roottoot

5 hours ago, roottoot said:

Styling and Car care' seems to be the wrong section as that is not styllee or even fugly in a nice way IMO

 

How can you not admire the stylish "peek-a-boo" cover?

At odds with @roottoot, I feel that as it is on the front of the car it would certainly fail an MOT. If not that, then I'd probably class it as the same as Bull Bars - dangerous.

Which part of the MOT Inspection will it be.  Then if the wheel is not on but if the bolts are through the bonnet is that a fail?

 

Bull Bars do not fail and the bull bar legislation is from a certain date.  Dangerous though.

Front winches do not fail a mot.  Dangerous though.

 

 

 

Edited 3 July, 20223 yr by roottoot

 

I am ony in the thought process at the moment, it would be just about having an eaiser to access spare than the one under the the boot floor, which takes 15-20mins to get to because of having to remove all the c**p I have loaded in the car.

I know a can of tyre sealer takes up less room but after having muitiple punctures, two of witch were massive gashes where sealer wouldn't of worked, I would prefer a full size spare.

 

8 hours ago, roottoot said:

Why not get a good string roof carrier and get it up there. 

I Allready have a roof rack that gets fully loaded, inside of the car gets fully loaded, only room left was bonnet.

 

8 hours ago, roottoot said:

'Styling and Car care' seems to be the wrong section as that is not styllee or even fugly in a nice way IMO.

 

Yes there is no styling here it's all about function, just thought this would be the section where there was somebody with the knowledge on modifications and the law.

 

8 hours ago, roottoot said:

A UK MOT would not be an issue, you would just remove it when going in for a test.

Only issue is I would be left with a mounting bracked on the bonnet, unless this was also removable.

 

8 hours ago, roottoot said:

Nobody has ever failed a Land Rover / Jeep or whatever for having a spare wheel / tyre on the bonnet.

 

I was thinking that, but I presumed that that was because those spare wheels are fitted as a factory option.

 

8 hours ago, roottoot said:

Pity you do not have this model.

 

I remembered seeing that rapid on tv years ago, and did consider taking some inspiration from it, and thought of putting a spare that could be fitted across the tailgate window, but that would need a lot of fabrication of a framework, and it would impede rear vision, bonnet mounting just seemed an eaiser option.

 

I did realise that there would be insurance implications, but in theory just adding a sticker of a spare wheel would need an insurer to be notified.

 

To sum it up, it seems that the situation is: Everyone would turn a blind eye, but I might get that one person that wants to make a fuss about it. (A bit like the mascots on old rolls royce's), but it wouldn't be safe for pedestrions.

 

Edited 3 July, 20223 yr by R_U_AFA

You could find yourself failing the MoT on things like body, structure and attachments.

There's no law in the UK (unless that's changed) that says you must carry a spare so if it's not on the bonnet when you go then it can't fail on that.

Visibility might be an issue on the other hand. I'd just gat a roof rack and some ratchet straps and save myself the grief.

As George I think said, there's the insurance aspect as well should you find yourself in an accident with a wheel where it wasn't designed to when the car left the factory.

Edited 3 July, 20223 yr by @Lee

@R_U_AFA  So you having lots of punctures and having to empty your boot regularly?

 

Get a decent set of tyres on the car, maybe some Gravel Rally Tyres.

 

Impeding rear vision is not an issue as people have vans or estate cars used as vans with no rear window. 

 

 

Edited 3 July, 20223 yr by roottoot

I've no idea what crap as you called it you carry in your boot or for what purpose but wouldn't an easier solution be condensing the crap into boxes such as stacking euroboxes aka euro containers or KLT containers.

 

Here we are.  Sorted.

http://mirack.com.au/product/xt-tilting-rear-wheel-carrier

 

http://liftedimports.com/best-rear-tire-carriers-for-suv-subaru

 

Edited 3 July, 20223 yr by roottoot

My Octavia 1 & 2 both had variofloors with the space below stuffed full of essential items (AKA K-rap until you need them!) so there was a lot of unloading & repacking to be done before and after a wheelchange but at least I had a spare wheel.

 

The Yeti didn't have one and after making a variofloor from a MK1 Octavia one there would be space for a spacesaver wheel but none left for my essential stuff which has already been reduced by 1/3rd to fit the smaller load space, if I carry my space saver above then it takes up all of the boot space leaving very little space on top.

 

As it is the spare only comes with me on long journeys, the exact journeys where I need all the load space, I would love to fit it on the rear hatch or on a swing out bracket, it can't be fitted to the towbar because all my long journeys recently and for the next couple of years are towing trailers.

 

I liked my Galaxy with the spare wheel under the boot floor, OK it gets dirty but the one coming off will be anyway, I made the mistake once of pulling over with 2 wheels up the kerb to allow traffic to pass, I jacked up the car, removed the punctured wheel and then found there was not enough space to drop out the spare, the kerb was in the way.

On 03/07/2022 at 20:44, @Lee said:

I've no idea what crap as you called it you carry in your boot or for what purpose but wouldn't an easier solution be condensing the crap into boxes such as stacking euroboxes aka euro containers or KLT containers.

 

 

I carry a lot of random ****e in the boot usually. So my solution is an RAC branded boot organiser thing, until I can get the Mk1 Fabia parcel shelf with the netting. Got it as a gift, but they're not too expensive from B&M or Home Bargains. Plus they've got dinky handles on 'em so you can just lift it out, should you require access to the spare wheel.

So by making the wheel and it's mounting bracket/bolts removeable, I could just remove them before a MOT and have no issues.

I was worried about insurance issues, as mentioned eariler, so i'll have to have I think about that aspect.

Forward visiability wouldn't be an issue because the way the bonnet slopes away, it removes the wheel from my eyeline.

I don't think you are all realising how much stuff I have in the car, including on an already fitted roofrack(I'll take a picture if I can remember)

Thanks for your replies.

7 minutes ago, R_U_AFA said:

I don't think you are all realising how much stuff I have in the car, including on an already fitted roofrack(I'll take a picture if I can remember)

The thing is that in the event of hitting a pedestrian they will likely impact the bonnet area, not the roof area so what you have on the roof rack is likely to be of less concern from a legal point of view.

18 minutes ago, R_U_AFA said:

So by making the wheel and it's mounting bracket/bolts removeable, I could just remove them before a MOT and have no issues.

I was worried about insurance issues, as mentioned eariler, so i'll have to have I think about that aspect.

Forward visiability wouldn't be an issue because the way the bonnet slopes away, it removes the wheel from my eyeline.

I don't think you are all realising how much stuff I have in the car, including on an already fitted roofrack(I'll take a picture if I can remember)

Thanks for your replies.

 

Have you considered a Felicia estate, or even a Fabia estate? Gives you additional space, although costly, but safer for pedestrians.