Hi there, I am looking to put a 22mm anti roll bar from a pickup on my felicia. Does anybody know where i can get one from? I have tried local scrapers but there isn't any about. 

Thanks👍

IIRC, 22mm is exclusive to Fun and it'll be hard to find. All other models had 20mm. It can be found on all 1.6/1.9 Felicias or 1.3 with ABS.

 

 

Cheers mate that's good to know.

I also thought that the caddys had the 22mms roll bar aswell

The price is very high for an estate item like this:

 

https://www.b-parts.com/auto-parts/engine-transmission/anti-roll-bar-skoda-felicia-i-6u1-1994-1995-1996-1997-1998-4017857

 

On 16/08/2022 at 11:22, Papez said:

All other models had 20mm. It can be found on all 1.6/1.9 Felicias or 1.3 with ABS.

 

 

Back in the good old days Eibach sell this for Fellica (i have bought it, i have the 1.3 No ABS-Airbag edition) but now isn't on their catalogue any more.

 

That is a bit much 😅 hopefully I can find one that someone is breaking. I wish I could bring one back as hand luggage as I'm czech atm and there is a felicia or favorit on every street and many in the scrapyards. 

On 17/08/2022 at 12:11, D.FYLAKTOS said:

Back in the good old days Eibach sell this for Fellica (i have bought it, i have the 1.3 No ABS-Airbag edition) but now isn't on their catalogue any more.

Do you remember the difference before and after? How did it feel?

On 20/08/2022 at 11:48, R_Blue said:

Do you remember the difference before and after? How did it feel?

 

Before as we say here was ''like a boat'' ,is like the moving of a boat from left to right when is anchored in the sea which is not calm.

I installed the strut brace and after a while the anti-roll bar next, the car had already new lowered springs and new shock absorbers (Koni) so the whole ''package'' was far more ''tight'' and very useful in sport driving style in road mountains than the Stock.

 

On 20/08/2022 at 10:48, R_Blue said:

Do you remember the difference before and after? How did it feel?

 

I also added an ARB on my Felicia (with otherwise stock suspension) - the handling improved, especially with R14 wheels, the car felt stiffer and rolled less - but it wasn't too stiff, like more modern cars tent to be.

I later added a rear ARB to keep things balanced (my estate didn't have it from the factory)

On 16/08/2022 at 20:10, Joe_culyer said:

Cheers mate that's good to know.

I also thought that the caddys had the 22mms roll bar aswell

 

That might be possible, since caddy had a 1.6 engine, which I've never seen in the Pickup - with exception of the Fun. I didn't find any official info about which variant was used on which model...

On 23/08/2022 at 12:08, D.FYLAKTOS said:

 

Before as we say here was ''like a boat'' ,is like the moving of a boat from left to right when is anchored in the sea which is not calm.

I installed the strut brace and after a while the anti-roll bar next, the car had already new lowered springs and new shock absorbers (Koni) so the whole ''package'' was far more ''tight'' and very useful in sport driving style in road mountains than the Stock.

 

 

Thanks for your explanatory post.

 

12 hours ago, Papez said:

I also added an ARB on my Felicia (with otherwise stock suspension) - the handling improved, especially with R14 wheels, the car felt stiffer and rolled less - but it wasn't too stiff, like more modern cars tent to be.

I later added a rear ARB to keep things balanced (my estate didn't have it from the factory)

 

Does this setup impose more lateral stress on the tires?

 

Better handling means a safer ride too. Good upgrade.

7 hours ago, R_Blue said:

Does this setup impose more lateral stress on the tires?

less actually 

In all honestly i do not fancy anti roll bars on the felly, its just a light car and it does not need any IMHO only some more static camber...

In the past i had the idea for a rear strut brace, there was a guy here in GR which could make custom for models which you couldn't find as after market.

My main problem was that this rear strut brace was dividing my trunk space, i could load suitcases etc so i abandon the idea.

Below is an example from other brand, Renault but is very similar.

On 25/08/2022 at 07:30, Thefeliciahacker said:

In all honestly i do not fancy anti roll bars on the felly, its just a light car and it does not need any IMHO only some more static camber...

 

Favorit was a light car, Felicia is some 100-200kg heavier.. My estate was like a boat, ARB was definitely positive. I agree, that modern cars with to stiff ARB can be quite nervous, but that's not the case of the Felly.

 

You are onto something with the cmaber - Felly has pretty low caster angle, so many people racing them are looking for various methods to increase it

43 minutes ago, Papez said:

Favorit was a light car, Felicia is some 100-200kg heavier..

Forman is heavier too. So what do you think about ARB + Strut Brace for a Forman?

52 minutes ago, R_Blue said:

Forman is heavier too. So what do you think about ARB + Strut Brace for a Forman?

 

Unfortunately, Forman doesn't have mountings for ARBs. You'd need to fit front axle subframe (which has different mounting points) and arms and rear axle from Felicia.

3 hours ago, R_Blue said:

what do you think about ARB + Strut Brace for a Forman?

A strut "brace" is a method of locking in any pre-existing chassis twist. Avoid.

15 hours ago, Papez said:

You are onto something with the cmaber -

 

Felly has pretty low caster angle, so many people racing them are looking for various methods to increase it

 

With Camber screws help?

 

 

20 hours ago, Papez said:

You are onto something with the cmaber - Felly has pretty low caster angle, so many people racing them are looking for various methods to increase it

Well caster is conservative and camber.
Adjusting the rear lower wishbone mount will give you one to the detriment of the other.
Generally speaking caster provides in corner camber gain and feedback so yes i think that is the more important to adjust angle

20 hours ago, Papez said:

Felly has pretty low caster angle, so many people racing them are looking for various methods to increase it

my alignment settings, I would like to change the front caster and camber (left wheel) and rear toe.... sadly i cannot😰

Edited 27 August, 20223 yr by Thefeliciahacker

20 hours ago, KenONeill said:

A strut "brace" is a method of locking in any pre-existing chassis twist. Avoid.

Could you explain please?

Correct me if I'm wrong but some Felicias have it from factory. Right?

56 minutes ago, R_Blue said:

Could you explain please?

How old is a Felicia, or your Forman?

That's how long it's had to develop a twist away from the factory specification. Now fit a chassis brace and instead of increasing chassis stiffness you lock in that twist.

2 hours ago, KenONeill said:

How old is a Felicia, or your Forman?

That's how long it's had to develop a twist away from the factory specification. Now fit a chassis brace and instead of increasing chassis stiffness you lock in that twist.

Loud and clear sir. I like the way you think. That's wise.

On 27/08/2022 at 21:10, R_Blue said:

Could you explain please?

That is not the case if you had a twisted chassis you would know about it.

No chassis is going to be subjected to permanent deformation in their proper use cases.
But yes felly chassis do not have great torsional rigidity and braces will help with that.
No locking pre-existing twist, not even close, if you havent been involved in an accident ofc.

Edited 3 September, 20223 yr by Thefeliciahacker

On 03/09/2022 at 23:09, Thefeliciahacker said:

That is not the case if you had a twisted chassis you would know about it.

No chassis is going to be subjected to permanent deformation in their proper use cases.
But yes felly chassis do not have great torsional rigidity and braces will help with that.
No locking pre-existing twist, not even close, if you havent been involved in an accident ofc.

Back in business.

Ladies and gentlemen, we have two conflicting opinions.

Bracing and old Forman/Felly. Do it or not?

 

Let's sauce it up a little bit.

All chassis twists, flex, etc. are pre-calculated by engineers before the cars' production right? There are expected places of stress on chassis. I think those places are strengthened too. So if you install a strut brace, will it impose a dramatic change to where the chassis flexes?