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Here is one to send anyone with OCD over the edge.  Sounds like a pen or pencil has fallen down behind the dash by the windscreen at the passenger side , and it rolls back and forward under acceleration and deceleration. Mother of God.

 

Any suggestions how to get it out?

Thick metal wire like a coat hanger to fish about?

 

Maybe you can try and use phone with flashlight to record video, so it might get closer than you eye's can.  So that you can have a live view, otherwise a cheap USB camera for phone/PC might be able to spy in the gap.

 

It could also be in the scuttle tray under the windscreen wipers.

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Have you checked under the scuttle panel first or glovebox/pollen filter area. 

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Good suggestion re under the scuttle, sounds like its inside the car though. I took the glovebox down, nothing there, but will also pull the pollen filter and look in there.  Keep the suggestions coming!

10mm 3/8" drive extended socket dropped in the scuttle area during the last service.

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Just checked the scuttle, removed the plastic trim, all clear in there, removed pollen filter, all clear, removed side plastic cover on dash and reached in as far as I could, no joy. 

 

Whatever it is, is light and able to roll back and forth.

 

Maybe time for one of those USB endoscopes to look behind the dash...

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More likely to be heavy and short (like the socket or a marble) than long and light like a pencil to roll backwards and forwards, there are few large flat smooth areas.

 

Not that it helps you at all in your search but it might trigger your memory for something that has gone walkabout.

 

I am going to remove my glovebox now, prompted by reading this, I lost my wallet on the autoroute earlier this year, there is no gap anywhere around the glovebox big enough for it to have fallen through but I have to check to stop the lingering suspicions.

5 hours ago, Steviedakota said:

Just checked the scuttle, removed the plastic trim, all clear in there, removed pollen filter, all clear, removed side plastic cover on dash and reached in as far as I could, no joy. 

 

Whatever it is, is light and able to roll back and forth.

 

Maybe time for one of those USB endoscopes to look behind the dash...

How did you remove the scuttle btw? I’m sure when I checked mine I had to take the wiper blades off, is that the only way?

AS? I said it the first time round…. You’re nuts! 😂

As someone who has recently been through this hell too, I'd recommend recording the sound. While you or your passenger are recording, move your phone or whatever your recording device to different places (e.g. under the dash, near the centre console etc).

 

Then when you play it back, make a note of where the sound was loudest. This will help you focus where the sound actually is, and save time by not searching places where it isn't. 

 

 

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22 hours ago, Danoid said:

How did you remove the scuttle btw? I’m sure when I checked mine I had to take the wiper blades off, is that the only way?

 Didn't remove entirely, removed the clips and rubber strip, this allowed me to prise them up enough to have a good look inside without removing the wiper arms.

22 hours ago, ApertureS said:

The attached photos may give you an idea of whats actually behind the dash panel to help visualize it.

 

Happy fishing :D 

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Mother of God, why?! 

1 hour ago, Steviedakota said:

 Mother of God, why?! 

Retrofitting 3 zone climate control and heated rear seats :) 

…. and as well as that, he’s nuts! 😁 

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So the sound seems to be gone, even though I didn't find anything when I poked around. I did poke around between the screen and dash with a trim removal tool where the sound seemed to be, maybe I pushed whatever it was and lodged it in place?  Will find out for sure if the screen is ever replaced.  Fingers crossed it doesn't return!

 

@ApertureS Those pictures hurt my eyes and made me dizzy for five minutes.

On 21/09/2022 at 11:41, varooom said:

Thick metal wire like a coat hanger to fish about?

 

Maybe you can try and use phone with flashlight to record video, so it might get closer than you eye's can.  So that you can have a live view, otherwise a cheap USB camera for phone/PC might be able to spy in the gap.

 

It could also be in the scuttle tray under the windscreen wipers.

My car is next to a hazel and squirrels sometimes hide single nuts in the scuttle under the wipers these roll around , for a short time.

A pencil by its very length needs a lot of room to roll back and forth, what do you have in the glove box?

5 minutes ago, gumdrop said:

My car is next to a hazel and squirrels sometimes hide single nuts in the scuttle under the wipers these roll around , for a short time.

A pencil by its very length needs a lot of room to roll back and forth, what do you have in the glove box?

Did you mean that for @Steviedakota?

5 minutes ago, varooom said:

Did you mean that for @Steviedakota?

Probably 😀

2 hours ago, gumdrop said:

My car is next to a hazel and squirrels sometimes hide single nuts in the scuttle under the wipers these roll around , for a short time.

A pencil by its very length needs a lot of room to roll back and forth, what do you have in the glove box?

 

I think the OP would know by now if he had a squirrel in the glovebox!

I was thinking (more lucidly now the squirrels have been exorcised) somebody else had a similar problem

with something rolling about in the air ducts, possibly the duct that runs along the top of the floor tunnel.

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Aaaand it's back. 🥵

On 21/09/2022 at 19:08, ApertureS said:

The attached photos may give you an idea of whats actually behind the dash panel to help visualize it.

 

Happy fishing :D 

 

 

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@Steviedakotacould be anything see how many torx drivers @ApertureS found when he removed his dash

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