14 hours ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

 

I know because Greeks named that city as did in hundreds of others in the area.

Alexander the Great is Iskandar in Middle East right?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iskandar

Alexandria in Greek is Αλεξανδρεια which means ''the city which named by Alexander", the same applies for example to Antiochia (named by the Greek Antiochos) etc.

 

 

This brand can be found here in Greece since 2000 but it's not too famous

https://www.yiannitsaros.com/product/anti-freeze-5l-green/

 

In the green says TL 774-G (G-11) ,there must be a mistake it's TL 774-C

https://www.iada.es/en/product/glycogel-hybrid-50-g-11-2/

 

Few years ego i was using another Spanish brand Repsol G11, fantactic but difficult to find it here now.

 

 

IADA coolant is available here in Egypt since 1999, it is a bit expensive but it is good quality and there is other brands that are better than IADA like Mobil, Hepu and Mannol but they are a lot more expensive that IADA

On 08/11/2022 at 13:58, nta16 said:

the temperature all year round is between 10°C and 30°C   ( lowest temp in Winter is 10°C and highest temp in Summer is 30°C )

 

You have the factory coolant sensor and thermostat?

8 hours ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

 

You have the factory coolant sensor and thermostat?

On my 1.6 AEE i have the Coolant temperature sensor (that sensor under the Distributor) but i delete the thermostat so i am driving now for 3 years without thermostat and that is better for me and the car here in Egypt.

 

14 minutes ago, Mustafa_Samir said:

i delete the thermostat so i am driving now for 3 years without thermostat and that is better for me and the car here in Egypt.

 

 

If you don't have Winter as we do here you don't need heat in the morning.

Please note - I am not a mechanic or expert in anything.

 

3 hours ago, Mustafa_Samir said:

i delete the thermostat so i am driving now for 3 years without thermostat and that is better for me and the car here in Egypt

Removing the thermostat is not always the best solution (ETA: might not apply in your case - as that can increase coolant flow in that area) sometimes it is better to put in a thermostat more suited to the climate - but I do not know for certain with your car, however 10-30C weather is within what a standard factory specification thermostat is designed for.

 

Personally I would refit the thermostat at is helps the engine warm up (even) quicker and controls the coolant temperature (until it is fully open).  Whatever the thermostat is marked as this is the temperature at which it starts to open not when it is fully open, which is about IIRC 8C higher, and there is a thermostat manufacture tolerance to these figures.

 

Edited 10 November, 20223 yr by nta16
ETA: as might not apply in your case

15 hours ago, nta16 said:

Please note - I am not a mechanic or expert in anything.

 

Removing the thermostat is not always the best solution (ETA: might not apply in your case - as that can increase coolant flow in that area) sometimes it is better to put in a thermostat more suited to the climate - but I do not know for certain with your car, however 10-30C weather is within what a standard factory specification thermostat is designed for.

 

Personally I would refit the thermostat at is helps the engine warm up (even) quicker and controls the coolant temperature (until it is fully open).  Whatever the thermostat is marked as this is the temperature at which it starts to open not when it is fully open, which is about IIRC 8C higher, and there is a thermostat manufacture tolerance to these figures.

 

For me here in Egypt i don't need the Thermostat and most 1.6 AEE owners whatever it is on Skoda or VW here in Egypt they delete the Thermostat for engine safety reasons bec. the Thermostat always get Stuck closed bec most Thermostat brands here in Egypt are bad so it can burn the Engine and sometimes the engine overheats in summer when it is have Thermostat.

But the only disadvantage for me of Thermostat delete that in the Winter season especially in cold days that the temperature get 15°C when i drive the car over 100 km/h it gets underheated, the temperature gauge get under 80°C like 75° minimum.

Please note - I am not a mechanic or expert in anything.

 

You could perhaps get a good quality thermostat posted in from elsewhere.  Although it does happen of course I have never had a thermostat fail.  There are even (USA?) fail-safe thermostats, though I have no idea if they do such for your model. -https://motorad.com/why-should-your-next-thermostat-be-a-fail-safe-model/

 

 

22 minutes ago, Mustafa_Samir said:

But the only disadvantage for me of Thermostat delete that in the Winter season especially in cold days that the temperature get 15°C when i drive the car over 100 km/h it gets underheated, the temperature gauge get under 80°C like 75° minimum.

It is unusually warm for the time of year here, currently 15.2C by coincidence which is considered warm and would be considered extremely warm in mid-winter and 15C could easily been seen in summer here.  Are you driving at over 100km/h before the car/engine has fully warmed up and does the temperature reading rise after this and you are travelling at lower speeds like 50km/h as I wonder how accurate your temperature gauge reading might be.  My 1973 car used to overcool in winter, with thermostat fitted, on open road driving but would very soon warm up again when I got to 50k/h driving and with heat soak when the engine was switched off (mechanical not electric gauge so easily seen).

 

1 hour ago, nta16 said:

Please note - I am not a mechanic or expert in anything.

 

You could perhaps get a good quality thermostat posted in from elsewhere.  Although it does happen of course I have never had a thermostat fail.  There are even (USA?) fail-safe thermostats, though I have no idea if they do such for your model. -https://motorad.com/why-should-your-next-thermostat-be-a-fail-safe-model/

 

 

It is unusually warm for the time of year here, currently 15.2C by coincidence which is considered warm and would be considered extremely warm in mid-winter and 15C could easily been seen in summer here.  Are you driving at over 100km/h before the car/engine has fully warmed up and does the temperature reading rise after this and you are travelling at lower speeds like 50km/h as I wonder how accurate your temperature gauge reading might be.  My 1973 car used to overcool in winter, with thermostat fitted, on open road driving but would very soon warm up again when I got to 50k/h driving and with heat soak when the engine was switched off (mechanical not electric gauge so easily seen).

 

Actually 15°C in winter here in Alexandria Egypt is cold bec. Alexandria is on the Mediterranean Sea and sometimes it gets to 10°C in the coldest days in Winter,

I don't drive the car until it is warmed up especially in Winter it takes 10 min to fully warm up then i drive,

Actually the car overcools when i exceed the speed of 100 km/h and it return to its normal temperature ( 80-85°C ) when i lower the speed to 80 km/h and that only happen in the cold days of Winter but in Summer the car doesn't overcools even when i drive at 120 km/h but in normal i dont exceed 90 km/h bec i don't like highspeeds it is very danger in any car, So i like to enjoy my driving calm and safely .

2 hours ago, nta16 said:

There are even (USA?) fail-safe thermostats

 

Shipping rates from Usa are outrageous, many times are 200% than the price of the product it self.

 

1 hour ago, Mustafa_Samir said:

I don't drive the car until it is warmed up especially in Winter it takes 10 min to fully warm up then i drive

 

I thought i was the only fussy guy because my Felicia takes 3.40 to reach the 70 'C

Please note - I am not a mechanic or expert in anything.

 

1 hour ago, Mustafa_Samir said:

I don't drive the car until it is warmed up especially in Winter it takes 10 min to fully warm up then i drive,

That is not necessarily a good practice especially as you have removed the thermostat so the coolant will reman colder for longer, the engine will be running richer for longer and the engine oil will be cooler for longer.  The car is designed and made to be started up able to be driven straight off and certainly easily at 10C.  I would imagine, but do not know as I have not seen the books, that the Owner's Manual would give advise on this.

 

Obviously the car should not be driven hard until the engine oil has got to normal operating temperature, without an oil temperature gauge or readout you have to use your experience to judge this and is usually a while after the coolant temperature has reached its usual reading for normal operation (subject to the gauge being reasonable accurate and reliable).    

 

 

1 hour ago, Mustafa_Samir said:

Actually the car overcools when i exceed the speed of 100 km/h

Bear in mind the thermostat also helps to control the temperature of the engine and that it closes as well as opens.

 

I would urge you to return the car back to factory standard and put a good reliable thermostat back in, but of course it is your choice I am only giving my advice.  Whatever temperature thermostat the factory installed for your country would be my choice.

 

Please note - I am not a mechanic or expert in anything.

 

3 minutes ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

Shipping rates from Usa are outrageous, many times are 200% than the price of the product it self.

Yes fair enough but you do not have to buy that type or from USA, that was just an example that they exist.

 

As I put I have never had a problem with thermostats and they generally are not an expensive item that generally last trouble-free for very many years (or decades in the case of "classic" cars).

 

So even if the postage charges are high the cost spread over the life of the thermostat makes them next to nothing.

 

An extreme example from Usa shipping to Egypt

US $90.00 (approx EUR 88.40)    

eBay International Standard Delivery

and another from Uk shipping to Egypt

GBP 30.19 (approx EUR 34.63)

Expedited Shipping (International Priority Shipping)

 

Things are tough when you are in economic hardship.

Please note - I am not a mechanic or expert in anything.

 

I was thinking that something like this would come from Europe, and it does not have to be on priority delivery.

 

I am sure Mustafa_Samir can not be in any real financial hardship if he can afford a car for pleasure driving (in the UK 'joy ride' is taking a drive or ride in a stolen car).

 

17 hours ago, nta16 said:

Please note - I am not a mechanic or expert in anything.

 

You could perhaps get a good quality thermostat posted in from elsewhere.  Although it does happen of course I have never had a thermostat fail.  There are even (USA?) fail-safe thermostats, though I have no idea if they do such for your model. -https://motorad.com/why-should-your-next-thermostat-be-a-fail-safe-model/

 

 

It is unusually warm for the time of year here, currently 15.2C by coincidence which is considered warm and would be considered extremely warm in mid-winter and 15C could easily been seen in summer here.  Are you driving at over 100km/h before the car/engine has fully warmed up and does the temperature reading rise after this and you are travelling at lower speeds like 50km/h as I wonder how accurate your temperature gauge reading might be.  My 1973 car used to overcool in winter, with thermostat fitted, on open road driving but would very soon warm up again when I got to 50k/h driving and with heat soak when the engine was switched off (mechanical not electric gauge so easily seen).

 

Those Fail-Safe thermostat are not available for the 1.6 AEE engine,

And anyways i am good with the thermostat delete, and me and my father never use the car in city to city trips, we only use it in the city so i don't need the thermostat, I've been driving with thermostat delete for 3 years now and things are doing Great

8 hours ago, nta16 said:

Please note - I am not a mechanic or expert in anything.

 

I was thinking that something like this would come from Europe, and it does not have to be on priority delivery.

 

I am sure Mustafa_Samir can not be in any real financial hardship if he can afford a car for pleasure driving (in the UK 'joy ride' is taking a drive or ride in a stolen car).

 

Man here in Egypt it is ****ed up, things are very expensive and salaries are not going up, here in Egypt if you ride a Skoda Felicia you are considered a Middle class and if you ride a Mercedes-Benz, BMW, Audi or Skoda Octavia whether they are new or old 80s - 90s models you considered Upper class Rich,

But i like to take care of my car, it is my Father's car he buy it brand new in 1996, so we are the original owners and my father still use it, but me personally i like to drive only for Joyride purpose, i don't like to use my car in heavy traffic in the afternoon and **** up my driving experience and Joy, and here in Egypt traffic are always heavy everyday from the afternoon till 9:00 pm at night, so i don't like to use my car in my daily transportation i get bored from heavy traffic, only my father use it once and sometimes twice a week for transportation.

3 hours ago, Mustafa_Samir said:

we only use it in the city so i don't need the thermostat, I've been driving with thermostat delete for 3 years now and things are doing Great

 

What about fuel consumption in city traffic? How many litres per 100Km?

Please note - I am not a mechanic or expert in anything.

 

3 hours ago, Mustafa_Samir said:

Those Fail-Safe thermostat are not available for the 1.6 AEE engine,

And anyways i am good with the thermostat delete, and me and my father never use the car in city to city trips, we only use it in the city so i don't need the thermostat, I've been driving with thermostat delete for 3 years now and things are doing Great

Fair enough.

 

3 hours ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

 

What about fuel consumption in city traffic? How many litres per 100Km?

i measure the fuel consumption but not 100% accurately, it is about 12.5 litre/100Km maximum in city heavy traffic and about 10 litre/100Km in highway and sometimes lower than 10 litre/100Km.

That's good for a used 1.6 AEE engine, my Car was stock on 1.3 engine and i swapped it by the 1.6 AEE 3 years ago,

the 1.6 AEE is a used engine that have over 100,000 km and it's condition is very good and clean and smooth.