Yes Toot in D with e-brake on in a- 1.0 DSG.  I thought I said why I preferred using the e-brake - smoother starting from standstill and the rear brake lights don't glow red - though I know I'm being fussy.  After mostly keeping clear of Autohold in the 1st 2 years, along with stop/start, I did start to use botht for a while until a few months ago, when I changed over to my current e-brake proceedure - but who knows what I'll be doing next year - makes life interesting.

 

It has crossed my mind to look into getting the throttle response remapped so it's less fierce and then I might be tempted to using autohold all the time, if that became significantly smoother, never mind the rear brake lights issue.  However I'm worried that doing this remapping might upset the way the engine and DSG interact - presumably Skoda did a lot of development work getting them working together well.  I don't know if anyone has actually done this type of remapping successfully with a DSG - been talked about here very occasionally.

On 26/04/2023 at 12:20, Kenny R said:

Don’t panic when you lift off the accelerator going down a hill and the coasting function kicks in and car freewheels down hill, a dab of the brakes will re engage the gearbox to allow engine braking.

Or pull the LH paddle if you have one. Much more subtle than braking.

On 29/04/2023 at 17:44, croquemonsieur said:

Nottslan - when you talk about the handbrake, presumably you are referring to the E-Brake.  I understood from past posts that as with Autohold, say when the car is sitting idling at traffic lights, activating the E-Brake also disengages the clutch on a DSG car.  I stand to be corrected though, if you know differently, but that's what I've sometimes been trying recently, as moving off then seems a bit smoother  than when using Autohold.

One good reason for pulling on the parking brake when in a Q of traffic is to kill the 3 bright brake lights (and stop annoying the driver behind).

 

Indeed the clutch is disengaged. Just stomp on the Go pedal when it’s time to move on.

 

Actually you just need to tickle the  throttle pedal to inch forward.

 

But stomping hard can be fun too.

On 30/04/2023 at 19:19, croquemonsieur said:

Nottslan & Modders.  With Autohold, the brake cerainly releases instantly, but maybe that's the issue.  The throttle, even on my 1.0 DSG, is rather sensitive when taking off from rest, Autohold or no Autohold - in fact smoother starts are easier if the car is first allowed to start to creep away.  If needing to take off fast, whatever the choice of brakes at standstill, I do find I have to think twice so as not to push the peddle down too far - my previous Yeti was the same.  That's in comparison with most non-VAG DSG conventional auto cars I've had in the past, where the throttle is far gentler at the start of the action.  My 2.0 Saab 9-5 auto of some years ago was a model of how to do smooth starts, particularly when wanting to get away quickly, say turning right into a busy road.  The Karoq doesn't compare well in this regard, though overall I do think the it is a somewhat better car than the Saab.

 

In reviews, non-smooth starting from standstill is sometimes mentioned as the main downside with VAG DSGs, though in other regards the gearbox action is favourably commented on.  I did have to drive a new model Juke with DSG last year for a month or two, while my car was being repaired following a minor bump.  Actually start off from standstill was significantly jerkier than with the Karoq, not helped by the fact there was no inbuilt creep in the transmission, so maybe this slightly jerky behaviour is an inherent characteristic with all DSGs.

 

If using the E-brake I can only think that the front wheels power off momentarily before the E-Brake releases and play in the suspension slightly stretches the wheelbase before the car moves off, maybe smoothing things a little, but that's only conjecture and it may wrar the suspension bushes (weren't Morris 1100s of many years ago notorious for this stretching action - front wheels trying to tear the car in half if the handbrake wasn't released quickly).

 

Whilst writing, the brake light staying on with Autohold could be illegal, or at least can be annoying to a driver at standstill behind - this has been discussed here before.  I don't think the brake lights come on when using the e-brake.  On the other hand, it has been suggested in the situation where there's no-one behind when stopped at traffic lights, having the brake lights can be a useful warning to cars maybe coming up too fast behind, a second or two later - if I'm feeling particularly conscientious, I occassionally do use Autohold in that situation.

 

Tried to keep this as short as possible - honest.

I agree with much of this and won’t quibble over other minor points.

 

Most have been discussed ad infinitum.

 

In no way is the brake lights on when Autohold is functioning illegal as it is the driver that presses the brake pedal and then has the system enabled so holding the brakes instead of them having their foot on the pedal. There is an on / off button.

 

It is the driver that needs to be aware it is the same as if they had their foot on the brake pedal and what is in the UK Highway code if they are in the UK.

'Autohold' is not a parking brake.   If they want to apply a Parking brake be it the e-Brake or a hand brake to not sit extended times with traffic / vehicles / cyclists behind seeing the brake lights then they should know how their car works.

 

There were and are VW Group vehicles just a few years old that do not have the brake lights on when 'Autohold' is working. 

One time I switch auto hold off, is when slow manouvering, like parking in my garage or in car park slots.

My garage has a downward sloping curved drive, with full width drain and then a slight kerb to overcome, so I enter it at an angle. Driving and stopping with auto hold on, means having to give a bit more revs than I really want, to overcome auto hold. It enables me to drive in, just using dabs on footbrake to control speed.