Anyone else getting this sort of miles per Kwh on an enyaq 60 ?

I'm averaging 260+ miles per charge

Is it good or bad? Anyone getting more or less. Please share a picture of you can. 

Mine is showing 274 miles today @100% charge. I'm averaging 5.1kwh and that was 115 miles of mixed motorway and city driving yesterday and yes I do use the Aircon when needed.

 

Thanks.

Stray

 

Out of interest, what version of software do you have?

How do I check that please Lucky? 

I'm not familiar with the Enyaq interface, I have an ID.4 which is very similar. I'd go into settings on the infotainment system then look for a 'system information' item and click on that. On my VW this gives software version and various hardware versions and the sat-nav database version. It was your excellent efficiency figure that prompted me to ask.

Excellent direction Lucky thanks.

I think this was what we were looking for.

Exactly that. Software 0561 is version 3.1 according to Google. There were noticeable efficiency improvements with V3 of MEB software, so your 5.1 average is achievable fairly regularly I'd have thought. In reply to your original question, 5.1 is a good average.

How on earth is these figures even possible? 5.1 is pretty darn good 👍 

 

Mine is like 3.1-3.4, and I’m trying really hard to be very eco minded of slow acceleration, coasting, no aircon etc.

On 3.0

Edited 4 June, 20233 yr by Stripy

5.1 is excellent, but3.1 software does supposedly bring greater efficiency. I'm achieveing more like 4.1 on my 2021 60 with 3.0 software.

 

I can get 5.1 on my daily commute but that's 12 miles on a 50 mph A road with a long gentle slope

On 04/06/2023 at 22:02, Stripy said:

How on earth is these figures even possible? 5.1 is pretty darn good 👍 

 

Mine is like 3.1-3.4, and I’m trying really hard to be very eco minded of slow acceleration, coasting, no aircon etc.

On 3.0

Thanks Stripy.

I use cruise control most of the time and if in traffic manually accelerate then put it back on.

Stops me being too heavy footed.

1 hour ago, domhnall said:

5.1 is excellent, but3.1 software does supposedly bring greater efficiency. I'm achieveing more like 4.1 on my 2021 60 with 3.0 software.

 

I can get 5.1 on my daily commute but that's 12 miles on a 50 mph A road with a long gentle slope

Hi Domhnall.

I like to charge the car as near to my departure time, someone told me this pre warms the battery. Perhaps someone can confirm if this is fact or myth and legend.

Well, I’ve tried to look into that with the OBDII dongle, and I can’t find any evidence that the PTC heater coming on when charging with AC.

It does with DC though, if it’s not up to temp and then fades out as it gets towards ideal temp (23° if I remember correctly)

 

Only “preheat” available is the cabin via the aircon.

On AC the only battery heating is the natural flow of electrons, but I recon it’s only 1-2° it actually changes during a longer charge (+4hrs)

2 hours ago, domhnall said:

5.1 is excellent, but3.1 software does supposedly bring greater efficiency. I'm achieveing more like 4.1 on my 2021 60 with 3.0 software.

 

I can get 5.1 on my daily commute but that's 12 miles on a 50 mph A road with a long gentle slope

Downhill slope I take 😜 

-what’s the consumption the other way then?

4 minutes ago, Stripy said:

Downhill slope I take 😜 

-what’s the consumption the other way then?

That was a day driving around London M25 from Bexley to Sutton all day around Croydon then back to Bexley so up and down hill plus motor way too and from about 110 miles for the day. 

Pre heating car or battery is surely not necessary anyplace in the UK in the past weeks.

Cold weather yes.  

 

As to Cruise Control try the same journey without it on because you might find that there is not as much 'Coasting' or regening as your foot on the accelerator and energy into the battery in comparison to that going out when cruise has the control of the accelerator.

Just as with an ICE vehicle where power on and power off and coasting with an auto if available or just off the accelerator is more economic. 

Edited 25 June, 20232 yr by toot

On 25/06/2023 at 11:04, Stripy said:

Downhill slope I take 😜 

-what’s the consumption the other way then?

 

about 3.8

Understanding range seems to be my biggest concern at the moment.  I was chatting with an ID4 owner last night with the 52kWh battery and he said he gets about 200 miles during the summer and it drops to about 150/160 during the winter.  He was leasing the car so wasnt sure if it had a heat pump, I suspect not. 

 

He also mentioned that he never uses it for long journeys, instead he would take his petrol car so that he didn't have to stop and recharge, which I thought was a tad strange but each to either own. 

 

What sort of real world ranges should I expect from an Enyaq 60 and 80 in both summer and winter? With the assumption that I won't have a heat pump as these seem to be rarer than hens teeth. I realise that this is a rather open ended question because it will depend on driving conditions etc, but lets say town driving with the occasional 30 mile round trip on a dual carriageway.

 

 

I'll weigh in as an ID.4 owner (as you have been chatting with one anyway). I have a 77kWh battery ID.4 (Enyaq 80 equivalent) which gives me 4.1 miles/kWh in general driving of mainly B-roads and some A-roads in summer which gives a max range of 300 miles. This then goes down to about 3.6 in winter. On the motorway I generally cruise about 65mph and get 3.9 summer and 3.5 winter. Wet roads make a dent in those figures. This economy is for V3.0 and above version of the MEB software, which you will get if buying new but you should insist on the software being upgraded if buying used. Economy on V2.x of MEB software was significantly worse. The software on Enyaq is much the same.

Hope that's helpful.

Edited 9 August, 20232 yr by Luckypants

Very helpful indeed. 

 

How do you like the ID4? The chap I spoke to let me have a good poke around his, the Pure Life version I believe and I found it to be on par with the Enyaq in terms of comfort. 

 

He did mention that the lane assist bugged him and there was no option to disable permanently.

 

Certainly opened my eyes as a possible alternative to the Enyaq. 

 

 

My wife and I love it. It is our first EV, so have mothing to compare it to but we love the smoothness, the 'intelligent regen' (car slows itself for corners and junctions), the space, the quiet. We've had the car from new in March 2021 and have 29k trouble free miles in it. I could say stress free but driving back from Scotland in Storm Dudley with a puncture was stressful! The car coped pretty well, apart from heavily impacted range due to rain and headwinds. As a mark of how much we like the car, we cannot wait to tour France in it next month!

Lane assist can be intrusive, but improved after V3.2 of the software (I've been upgraded many times) No modern car is allowed to permanently disable lane assist, its the law. To be honest, it doesn't bother us that much. It is possible to define a shortcut button to disable it, so it only needs a swipe to get rid of it.

In my answer about economy, I meant to say Enyaq seems to do slightly better than ID.4 for economy.

Thanks for the info, much appreciated.  Which model did you go for if you don't mind me asking?

 

They seem to be pretty well spec'd straight out of the box although the chap I spoke to wished he had gone for alloy wheels rather than the steelies with the hub caps, he didn't allude to why, but I guessed more pleasing to the eye.

My ID.4 is a First Edition, the only spec. available when we got it. No longer available and I'm not sure where it fits relative to the latest spec.

Lane Keep Assist or similar by whatever name can be disabled and there is no Law to stop it being done.

The law is coming in on it must be Factory standard and that is for new type approved cars and the VW Group vehicles are not 'New'. 

The next models Type Approved will be.     PS. No lane keep assist on my July 2023 MINI and I kind of miss it as it was very good on the 2020 Corsa.  Never needed switching off even on roads with snow, or ploughed / gritted. 

 

 

 

 

Edited 15 August, 20232 yr by toot

22 hours ago, Ovv said:

Understanding range seems to be my biggest concern at the moment.  I was chatting with an ID4 owner last night with the 52kWh battery and he said he gets about 200 miles during the summer and it drops to about 150/160 during the winter.  He was leasing the car so wasnt sure if it had a heat pump, I suspect not. 

 

He also mentioned that he never uses it for long journeys, instead he would take his petrol car so that he didn't have to stop and recharge, which I thought was a tad strange but each to either own. 

 

What sort of real world ranges should I expect from an Enyaq 60 and 80 in both summer and winter? With the assumption that I won't have a heat pump as these seem to be rarer than hens teeth. I realise that this is a rather open ended question because it will depend on driving conditions etc, but lets say town driving with the occasional 30 mile round trip on a dual carriageway.

 

 

 

around town I get around 3.8 in winter and 4 to 5 in Summer

on a long trip in winter again 3.5 is typiucal but in the summer around 4 is normal - heat pump 60 

An other question, which is range based is the SW update to version 3.x ( not quite sure what it is at present), I'm right in thinking that this helps with the range and efficiency?  How is the SW update done, is it via the dealer or some sort of over the air type download? Some of the screenshots of the Enyaqs currently available on Autotrader just show the battery icon without the percentage, again am I right in thinking the percentage should show if the most recent SW update has been applied?

 

Thanks

2 hours ago, Ovv said:

An other question, which is range based is the SW update to version 3.x ( not quite sure what it is at present), I'm right in thinking that this helps with the range and efficiency?  How is the SW update done, is it via the dealer or some sort of over the air type download? Some of the screenshots of the Enyaqs currently available on Autotrader just show the battery icon without the percentage, again am I right in thinking the percentage should show if the most recent SW update has been applied?

 

Thanks

This can only be done by the dealer at the moment.