Hello,

I am new to this forum and after some advice please. I have read the post about AT tyres on a yeti 4x4 but my question is what are the best tyres for my Greenline? I have had multiple punctures, mostly resulting in new tyres, due to driving on the tank tracks on Salisbury Plain and am so fed up with it. Can anyone please advise me as to whether it would be feasible to actually fit AT tyres to my greenline or if there are other, more robust, tyres that will handle the tank tracks more successfully than the current road tyres l have on at the moment.

many thanks 😊 

52 minutes ago, Clairebelle said:

Hello,

I am new to this forum and after some advice please. I have read the post about AT tyres on a yeti 4x4 but my question is what are the best tyres for my Greenline? I have had multiple punctures, mostly resulting in new tyres, due to driving on the tank tracks on Salisbury Plain and am so fed up with it. Can anyone please advise me as to whether it would be feasible to actually fit AT tyres to my greenline or if there are other, more robust, tyres that will handle the tank tracks more successfully than the current road tyres l have on at the moment.

many thanks 😊 

 

What size tyres are fitted to your Greenline? For example, the size might be 205/55R16 or 215/60R16.

 

What make and model of tyres have been getting punctures?

 

What is causing the punctures? Is it something like a nail or screw? Or maybe something sharp has been cutting the sidewalls.

 

Are tyre sizes listed on the inside of the fuel filler flap? If so, what tyre sizes are these?

 

Do you run much reduced tyre pressures when driving on Salisbury Plain? If you have 205/55R16, these may not be suitable for running reduced tyre pressures off-road because for an off-road tyre this size doesn't have enough sidewall height...which is why proper off-roaders tend to have lots of sidewall height.

 

Whatever tyre size you've got at the moment, you could fit 205/70R15 on 6Jx15 ET43 5/112 57.1 rims.

 

15" tyres aren't generally fitted to the Yeti, but 195/65R15 91T is mentioned for the Yeti 1.2 petrol 77kW/105PS with lowered ride height on page 194 of the November 2014 edition of the Yeti owner's manual. You can see an online version of this owner's manual by downloading it here...

 

Skoda owner's manual

https://manual.skoda-auto.com/210/en-gb/Models

 

205/70R15 is simply what I would call a ballooned version of the 195/65R15 tyre size, ie. one size up on the width and one size up on the aspect ratio.

 

Yokohama Geolandar AT G015 205/70R15 96H (Euro label E C 70dB) (3PMSF) (All-Terrain tyre and All-Season tyre)

https://www.camskill.co.uk/m53b0s2481p148166/Yokohama_Tyres_Car_Yokohama_Geolandar_AT_G015_205_70_R15_96H_RPB_TL_Fuel_Eff_%3A_E_Wet_Grip%3A_C_NoiseClass%3A_B_Noise%3A_70dB

 

If the mud isn't wet, you might be able to get away with a more road biased tyre such as the Vredestein Quatrac 5...which is an all-season tyre.

 

Vredestein Quatrac 5 205/70R15 96T (Euro label C C 69dB) (3PMSF) (All-Season tyre)

https://www.camskill.co.uk/m138b0s7998p144823/Vredestein_Tyres_All_Season_Car_Vredestein_Quatrac5_Vredestein_Quatrac_5_205_70_R15_96T_TL_Fuel_Eff_%3A_C_Wet_Grip%3A_C_NoiseClass%3A_A_Noise%3A_69dB

 

Alcar 7755 6Jx15 ET43 5/112 57.1 steel rim (from Octavia MK3)

https://www.oponeo.pl/felga-stalowa/alcar-kfz-7755

 

https://www.mytyres.co.uk/rims/details?vehicleId=502374009556452464&rimCode=ALCAR7755

 

Edited 6 October, 20232 yr by Carlston

@ClairebelleWhat was the cause of punctures was it sidewall damage or was something piercing the tread of the tyres like sharp stones?

Thanks so much for your interest. 
I took photos of the type of tyre and size that is currently fitted. Each time it was a puncture to the rear tyre, one was just 6 weeks after the last puncture so resulted in a puncture in a brand new tyre 🙈

Each time it was damage to the side wall, usually inner side wall, by a stone. Once it was a nail, the type used to shoe horses, but this was in the tread and was repaired. 
no instruction of tyre size in the inside of the fuel cap. And l don’t reduce the tyre pressure to drive over the tank tracks.

hope this helps? 

@Carlstonis the one to tell you the strongest sidewalls.

Maybe Gravel Stage Rally Tyres which are not that expensive.

Or something from BF Goodrich,  or the Geolanders, 

I have used all of them at some point on different vehicles. 

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/471828-robust-tyres-for-octavia-scout

 

Important is your Road miles / use.  

 

I had the Riken Snow tyre on my Electric Corsa (Low profile) through this summer having wrecked sidewalls on Michelin Alpin 6, they were fine and used on some tracks with sharp stones etc.

 

 

 

Edited 7 October, 20232 yr by toot

5 hours ago, Clairebelle said:

I took photos of the type of tyre and size that is currently fitted. Each time it was a puncture to the rear tyre, one was just 6 weeks after the last puncture so resulted in a puncture in a brand new tyre. Each time it was damage to the side wall, usually inner side wall, by a stone. Once it was a nail, the type used to shoe horses, but this was in the tread and was repaired. 
no instruction of tyre size in the inside of the fuel cap. And l don’t reduce the tyre pressure to drive over the tank tracks.

 

I can see from your photos that you have 205/55R16 tyres fitted to 7Jx16 ET45 5/112 57.1 alloy rims.

 

Although Toot has mentioned looking at gravel tyres and/or tyres with reinforced sidewalls, etc., I would first look at tyres with much higher sidewalls than the low sidewalled 205/55R16 tyre size which really isn't very suitable for off-road use due to its low sidewall height. It doesn't help that the 205/55R16 is fitted to a relatively wide 7J rim.

 

With your current rims you could change to 215/60R16. However, 7J is quite wide for 215/60R16 tyres. If you did want that tyre size, it might be better to fit the 215/60R16 tyre size to a narrower 6J rim...perhaps the 6Jx16 ET43 5/112 57.1 rim from the Karoq. But if you are going to change rims and tyres it might be better to look at the 205/70R15 option that I mentioned in my previous post. Bear in mind that the Yokohama Geolandar AT G015 is cheaper in the 205/70R15 size compared to 215/60R16.

 

Both the 205/70R15 and 215/60R16 tyre sizes would allow you to reduce your tyre pressures by at least 3psi because they are bigger tyres (and have higher standard load indexes, ie. 95 690kg and 96 710kg) so can support the same weight with less air pressure.

 

Both the 205/70R15 and 215/60R16 should transform the off-road feel of the car compared to the too low sidewalled 205/55R16. However, you might prefer the on-road feel of the car with the 215/60R16 over the 205/70R15. So perhaps 205/70R15 being the better of the two off-road but the 215/60R16 being the better of the two on-road. It really depends how you drive the car and personal preference.

 

Yokohama Geolandar AT G015 215/60R16 95H (All-Terrain tyre)

https://www.camskill.co.uk/m62b0s111p164244/Yokohama_Tyres_Car_Yokohama_Geolandar_AT_G015_215_60_R16_95H_RPB_TL_Fuel_Eff_%3A_E_Wet_Grip%3A_C_NoiseClass%3A_B_Noise%3A_71dB

 

Alcar 6665 6Jx16 ET43 5/112 57.1 steel rim (from Karoq)

https://www.mytyres.co.uk/rims/details?vehicleId=1302234084152546416&rimCode=ALCAR6665

 

Edited 7 October, 20232 yr by Carlston

That’s so helpful, thank you 😊 and it all makes perfect sense to me. 

 

I have looked at the fuel flap again and it does have the tyre size on it, photo attached. I am guessing the low side wall tyres are all part of the greenline being lower to the ground than the ordinary yeti to improve efficiency and fuel consumption? 

On 07/10/2023 at 21:14, Clairebelle said:

I have looked at the fuel flap again and it does have the tyre size on it, photo attached. I am guessing the low side wall tyres are all part of the greenline being lower to the ground than the ordinary yeti to improve efficiency and fuel consumption? 

 

Yes, the 205/55R16 helps to improve efficiency and fuel consumption by lowering the ride height. However, how you drive the car makes a much bigger difference than the relatively small difference 205/55R16 tyres make on the Yeti.

 

One Yeti owner compared the 205/55R16 and 215/60R16 and found the ride much improved with the 215/60R16.

 

As you can see in the chart below, 205/55R16 has a sidewall height of just under 4.5". 215/60R16 has a sidewall height of just over 5". 205/70R15 has a sidewall height of just over 5.5". So this perhaps emphasises that 205/70R15 will be the best off-road tyre out of these three tyre sizes.

 

Sidewall height

205/55R16 112.75mm (4.44")

215/60R16 129.00mm (5.08")

205/70R15 143.50mm (5.65")

 

Edited 9 October, 20232 yr by Carlston

Thank you so much for this advice Carlston, I am still trying to get my head around it all 🤦‍♀️ 
I definitely don’t want to have to buy new rims so does your advice above still hold? Can I fit 205/70R15 to my current rims? I’m thinking the last number is the rim size so the answer would be no but I am still trying to understand it all and am not making a very good job of it so far it has to be said 🤦‍♀️🤷‍♀️🙄😂 

1 hour ago, Clairebelle said:

I’m thinking the last number is the rim size so the answer would be no

Correct.

On 07/10/2023 at 21:14, Clairebelle said:

I am guessing the low side wall tyres are all part of the greenline being lower to the ground than the ordinary yeti to improve efficiency and fuel consumption?

The Greenline with 16" wheels on 205/55 has one of the highest side-wall profiles of all Yeti's, the diameter is about the same as Yeti's with 17" wheels.
The lowering is done in the suspension.

7 hours ago, Clairebelle said:

Thank you so much for this advice Carlston, I am still trying to get my head around it all 🤦‍♀️ 
I definitely don’t want to have to buy new rims so does your advice above still hold? Can I fit 205/70R15 to my current rims? I’m thinking the last number is the rim size so the answer would be no but I am still trying to understand it all and am not making a very good job of it so far it has to be said 🤦‍♀️🤷‍♀️🙄😂 

 

As you are keeping your 7Jx16 ET45 rims, changing from 205/55R16 to 215/60R16 would make sense.

 

Edited 3 May, 20242 yr by Carlston

4 hours ago, Urrell said:

The Greenline with 16" wheels on 205/55 has one of the highest side-wall profiles of all Yeti's,

 

Nope, the 215/60/16 has a significantly higher sidewall, I changed from the former (winter rims) to the latter (new tyres) yesterday.

 

To Clairebelle, I much prefer the ride and comfort on the 215/60 tyres, they are fine on 7" wide rims, that is the homologated factory fitment, I'm confused as to why Carlston would say the 7" rim is too wide for the 215 tyre yet he says it is OK for the narrower 205 tyre.

Clairebell - you've had some good advice and suggestions above. I would go for 60 profile on your standard wheels as well. Just buy some and see how you get on.

 

I've had several Subarus as well which are designed for plenty of gravel track use and they used to fit Yokohama Geolandars then Bridgestone Duelers. They've finally just moved to road Falkens for the latest UK model Crosstrek (XV) because I guess their customer base has changed to wanting standard SUVs.

 

 

Edited 4 May, 20242 yr by Prezafab

Thank you so much again everyone, your advice has been so helpful 🥰 I am going to go for Geolandars 215/60R16 on my current rims 👌🙏 🚗 

14 hours ago, J.R. said:

19 hours ago, Urrell said:

The Greenline with 16" wheels on 205/55 has one of the highest side-wall profiles of all Yeti's,

 

Nope, the 215/60/16 has a significantly higher sidewall,

Read again, I said one of the highest side-walls, higher than any of the 17" wheels, that's why so many people tried to get 16" wheels fitted at build for a more comfortable ride

20 hours ago, J.R. said:

I much prefer the ride and comfort on the 215/60 tyres, they are fine on 7" wide rims, that is the homologated factory fitment, I'm confused as to why Carlston would say the 7" rim is too wide for the 215 tyre yet he says it is OK for the narrower 205 tyre.

 

On the Yeti, Skoda fitted both 205/55R16 and 215/60R16 to 7J rim widths.

 

On all of the Skoda cars over the years, Skoda fitted both 205/55R16 and 215/60R16 to 6J, 6.5J, and 7J rim widths.

 

Hence, 7J is the widest rim that Skoda have fitted 205/55R16 and 215/60R16 to over the years. 6.5J is probably the most common rim width that Skoda have fitted 205/55R16 and 215/60R16 to over the years. The Scala fits its 205/55R16 to 6J rims, and the Karoq fits its 215/60R16 to 6J rims.

 

Edited 4 May, 20242 yr by Carlston

Thank you Carlston 👌 So 215/60R16 will fit which ever rims it is that I have (I don’t know what size they are but they are the original alloys that were factory fitted) 👌

8 hours ago, Urrell said:

I said one of the highest side-walls, higher than any of the 17" wheels

 

Which had not been mentioned even once in this discussion.

 

They are all rubber bands compared to what used to be classed as normal tyres, I remember 185/60/13's as being really sporty and exotic when fitted to MK1 Escorts.

 

I have 30+ year old Avon reinforced X plys on my tipping trailer and I have never seen such a tall profile, I think it is 100%, the way the size is expressed is really weird and the speed rating is something like 45km/h for use on sites. Original Ifor Williams fitment, the tallest modern tyres that would fit the rims would leave the hitch far too low and it would need refitting above the chassis rails.

3 hours ago, Clairebelle said:

So 215/60R16 will fit which ever rims it is that I have (I don’t know what size they are but they are the original alloys that were factory fitted) 👌

 

All the factory fitted 16" alloy rims on the Yeti are 7J wide, ie. full specification 7Jx16 ET45 5/112 57.1

 

Edited 4 May, 20242 yr by Carlston

10 hours ago, Carlston said:

 

All the factory fitted 16" alloy rims on the Yeti are 7J wide, ie. full specification 7Jx16 ET45 5/112 57.1

 

 

The problem with older cars is that by the time you become the owner, you could find you have any 5x112 wheels from the VAG empire fitted !

 

On 04/05/2024 at 10:33, Clairebelle said:

I am going to go for Geolandars 215/60R16 on my current rims

 

According to the Yokohama website, Geolandars aren't just AT (All-Terrain) tyres but they also have the 3PMSF symbol, which means they have passed a test for good traction in the snow. Having the 3PMSF symbol means a tyre is winter rated.

 

So whether it's off-road, mud, gravel, snow, etc. the Geolandars should be able to cope.

 

I've always found it strange that the Geolandars are listed in the summer tyre section, even though they have the 3PMSF (Three-Peak Mountain Snow Flake) symbol and are therefore all-season tyres as well as AT (All-Terrain) tyres. I suspect it's because they are all-terrain tyres that they put them in the summer tyre section...perhaps that's the traditional place for AT tyres.

 

Snow tyre 3PMSF

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_tire

 

Edited 5 May, 20242 yr by Carlston

Yes! That confused me when I saw the Summer Tyre logo on one of the websites I looked at 🤦‍♀️ I’m confused enough about it all without added confusion on top 🙄🥴😂 

I don’t think I can go wrong with the Geolandar 👌

On 05/05/2024 at 20:08, Clairebelle said:

Yes! That confused me when I saw the Summer Tyre logo on one of the websites I looked at 🤦‍♀️ I’m confused enough about it all

On 05/05/2024 at 18:40, Carlston said:

 

According to the Yokohama website, Geolandars aren't just AT (All-Terrain) tyres but they also have the 3PMSF symbol, which means they have passed a test for good traction in the snow. Having the 3PMSF symbol means a tyre is winter rated.

 

So whether it's off-road, mud, gravel, snow, etc. the Geolandars should be able to cope.

 

I've always found it strange that the Geolandars are listed in the summer tyre section, even though they have the 3PMSF (Three-Peak Mountain Snow Flake) symbol and are therefore all-season tyres as well as AT (All-Terrain) tyres. I suspect it's because they are all-terrain tyres that they put them in the summer tyre section...perhaps that's the traditional place for AT tyres.

 

Snow tyre 3PMSF

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_tire

one last question is I may 🙋‍♀️

I am not sure what the difference is between the Geolandar G015 and the G900? 🤔 I’ve looked at both but can’t seem to so much, although there must be a difference for them to make both models 🤷‍♀️ 

if any one has any experience of both and what the difference is that would be grand 👌

Thank you again for all of the advice thus far everyone, especially Carlston 👌

added confusion on top 🙄🥴😂 

I don’t think I can go wrong with the Geolandar 👌