Hey

 

looking for some advice. 
I have an issue with the central locking on my mk3 Fabia. Started on its own after a service on Friday. When I start to go over 10MPH and try and use the central console to lock the doors, the lock makes an Unlock sound. When locking on the fob the car locks, red arming light stays solid for about 20 seconds and then starts flashing and the interior lights dim, finally. The doors are locked.
The fault has been assessed and I’ve been quoted £350 for a replacement (P&L) OSR lock. 
 

anyone know how I can turn off the automatic lock at 10MPH? Cant see any obvious options in the bolero system. 
 

also is £350 reasonable? This is a main Skoda garage.

I’m pretty handy with electricals and pneumatics but cars are a bit of an unknown for me, so I’d have a go but I’m under no illusion it could be significant effort. 
 

thanks all 

 

20 hours ago, Woster said:

anyone know how I can turn off the automatic lock at 10MPH?

 

Looks like:

Bolero.

Car.

Settings.

Automatic Locking.

Activate/deactivate.

 

Thanks. AG Falco.

44 minutes ago, AGFalco said:

 

 

Looks like:

Bolero.

Car.

Settings.

Automatic Locking.

Activate/deactivate.

 

Thanks. AG Falco.

Thanks. Thanks not what I have an option for though :

 

 

21 hours ago, Woster said:

anyone know how I can turn off the automatic lock at 10MPH?

Does yours automatically lock the doors then?

 

21 hours ago, Woster said:

When I start to go over 10MPH and try and use the central console to lock the doors

Or are you pushing the lock button?

 

Thanks. AG Falco

29 minutes ago, AGFalco said:

Does yours automatically lock the doors then?

 

Or are you pushing the lock button?

 

Thanks. AG Falco

Automatically locks the doors. But at the moment with the fault, everytime I drop beneath 10MPH and go back above it tries to lock. I just need to find a way to stop it because it’s not great around town. 

On 09/10/2023 at 21:40, Woster said:

Started on its own after a service on Friday.

Did it start doing this after a service then?

 

Bolero reset maybe?

 

Thanks. AG Falco

2 hours ago, AGFalco said:

Did it start doing this after a service then?

 

Bolero reset maybe?

 

Thanks. AG Falco

I can try it. Does a newer version of the bolero software allow the feature to be turned off maybe? 

Had the lock replaced and the issue still exists. Infuriating that Skoda possibly told me the wrong information. 

On 09/10/2023 at 22:40, Woster said:

When I start to go over 10MPH and try and use the central console to lock the doors, the lock makes an Unlock sound.

 

On 10/10/2023 at 20:55, Woster said:

Automatically locks the doors. But at the moment with the fault, everytime I drop beneath 10MPH and go back above it tries to lock.

 

I am struggling to make sense of your contradictory comments and also reconcile them with common sense logic.

 

Why are you trying to lock the doors when driving if as you say it does it automatically?

 

What is it that you want the vehicle to do?

 

Are you sure that its not actually unlocking the doors above 10mph? It makes more sense to me that an anti-hijacking measure would be effective at a standstill or walking/running speed and deactivated for safety (egress after an accident etc) above that.

 

Whatever changes it is you want to make can almost certainly be done using VCDS but you need to specify what it is you want to achieve.

On 09/10/2023 at 22:40, Woster said:

When locking on the fob the car locks, red arming light stays solid for about 20 seconds and then starts flashing and the interior lights dim, finally. The doors are locked.

 

This is also contradictory, remove the words "finally. The doors are locked." and the description is exactly how the system should work, the car locks as you wrote the alarm is not activated for 20 seconds to allow the pressure to equalise and any body movement to subside, it then flashes to show the system is properly armed, the interior lights remain on to guide you away from the vehicle, I think its called the coming home feature, again something that can be programmed in VCDS.

 

I do not understand the "finally. The doors are locked." when you had already said "the car locks"

Edited 10 November, 20232 yr by J.R.

 

24 minutes ago, J.R. said:

 

 

I am struggling to make sense of your contradictory comments and also reconcile them with common sense logic.

 

Why are you trying to lock the doors when driving if as you say it does it automatically?

 

What is it that you want the vehicle to do?

 

Are you sure that its not actually unlocking the doors above 10mph? It makes more sense to me that an anti-hijacking measure would be effective at a standstill or walking/running speed and deactivated for safety (egress after an accident etc) above that.

 

Whatever changes it is you want to make can almost certainly be done using VCDS but you need to specify what it is you want to achieve.

 

18 minutes ago, J.R. said:

 

This is also contradictory, remove the words "finally. The doors are locked." and the description is exactly how the system should work, the car locks as you wrote the alarm is not activated for 20 seconds to allow the pressure to equalise and any body movement to subside, it then flashes to show the system is properly armed, the interior lights remain on to guide you away from the vehicle, I think its called the coming home feature, again something that can be programmed in VCDS.

 

I do not understand the "finally. The doors are locked." when you had already said "the car locks"

Apologies for my contradictions. Let me start again. 
 

The normal mode of operation would be:

- unlock the car with the car fob. 
- get in car and either; lock doors by pressing central locking button on the central console and then key in ignition and drive away or key in ignition and then once I drive off and achieve 10MPH, the central locking kicks in and locks the car doors (in this instance the central locking button on the central console is illuminated). 
- once at destination, you can unlock car doors by pressing central locking button on the central console or open the car door handles. The central locking button is now not illuminated. 
- get out of car and press the lock button on the key fob. The interior lights (which are illuminated) turn off after approximate 2-3 seconds from locking the car and the red “arming” light on the drivers side flashes intermittently. 
 

what is happening is 

- unlock the car with the car fob. 

- get in car and either; press central locking button on the central console. The door makes a lock sound, then and unlock sound. The central locking central console button never illuminates. or key in ignition and then once I drive off and achieve 10MPH, the central locking kicks in and locks the car doors (in this instance the central locking button on the central console is never illuminated). Every time you drop below 10MPH and then exceed 10MPH, for example stopping at a traffic light, the central locking tries to lock again. NOTE: in both of these instances the doors are successfully locked (it is not possible for someone else to open the car from the outside) however, pressing the unlock button on the central locking button on the central console does nothing. The only way to unlock the car is to open the interior door handles. 
- once at destination, open the car door handles. 
- get out of car and press the lock button on the key fob. The interior lights (which are illuminated) turn off after approximate 20-30 seconds from locking the car and the red “arming” light on the drivers side stays solid for approximately 10 seconds before beginning to flash intermittently. 

im hopeful I’ve explained this okay? Please let me know if there is any more confusion. And thanks for the assistance! 

Edited 10 November, 20232 yr by Woster
Typo

It sounds like some programming changes have been made or perhaps a module has been reset to factory parameters or maybe the settings have become corrupted.

 

The timing of the courtesy light is definitely programmable but this is probably not causing you any great problem.

 

I'm pretty sure there is a setting for auto-lock (beneath or maybe its above!) 10mph, it sounds like this has been enabled one way or another, you trying to manually lock the doors when you start up is probably confusing the logic.

 

From what you have written it sounds like you want the car to be locked all the time and you want to do it yourself using the central button, you should be able to do this if the auto-lock (or is it unlock? I'm confused now!) is not enabled, mine isn't and I would be able to manually do what you require were I minded to, it's very safe where I live and I have only used the feature a couple of times at traffic lights in a dodgy area and/or after using an ATM.

You’re right - many of the bolero systems do have auto locking above 10MPH and you can disable or enable it. There is no option on my Fabia. I have asked in the thread for software updates in case I have an old version. 
 

If I was able to disable it, it would reduce the annoyance when driving (it’s very annoying when you’re in a city and stop starting! 😅) but also I worry it will wear out the other locks too. 
 

the fact the central locking button isn’t working properly, and now the supposed troublesome lock has been replaced, makes me worry this is a sensor issue. I have seen similar posts (albeit the yeti or the Karoq) which people seem to say is a sensor or a soldering issue on a board somewhere. 
 

thanks again for the time taken to reply. I do appreciate it. 

So its auto-locking above 10mph, I thought that was what I remembered.

 

What is the point of it?

 

I mean why would you want the car to be locked at 10, 20................ 70mph and not at 9mph, why unlocked when stationary at traffic lights but locked at speed?

 

Is it about passengers falling out?

27 minutes ago, J.R. said:

So its auto-locking above 10mph, I thought that was what I remembered.

 

What is the point of it?

 

I mean why would you want the car to be locked at 10, 20................ 70mph and not at 9mph, why unlocked when stationary at traffic lights but locked at speed?

 

Is it about passengers falling out?

I guess it’s a safety thing. I think most VAG cars do this although you can turn it off (normally). BTW once it has locked over 10MPH it should remain locked until the unlock central locking button is pressed or the internal door handle is opened. In my case it is locking but there is no way to unlock it with the central locking button. 
for example, say I am going to pick someone up across town, my central locking should lock the doors after the first time I go above 10MPH. Once I arrive at my destination and I pick that person up, I should be able to press the central locking button to unlock the doors to let them into the car. I cannot do this as it stands. I would have to lean across to open the car door with the interior handle. 

From the 2016/11 'Amundsen and Bolero infotainment systems Owner's Manual' for Central locking - Automatic locking - Activate/deactivate automatic locking when starting off -

https://manual.skoda-auto.com/004/en-com/Models

 

 

 

Edited 10 November, 20232 yr by nta16

11 minutes ago, nta16 said:

From the 2016/11 'Amundsen and Bolero infotainment systems Owner's Manual' for Central locking - Automatic locking - Activate/deactivate automatic locking when starting off -

https://manual.skoda-auto.com/004/en-com/Models

 

 

 

Thanks but I do not have the option “automatic locking” present on my bolero system (see above posts)

Sorry I though you might 'pressing' the other 'button' ('Door unlocking: All doors' instead of 'Central locking') my wife's car isn't available to see if there's a down arrow next to 'Central locking' it's not a facility we'd use so I can't remember if it's even available on her car.

 

At the service was any recall or programs updates done or is the issue starting after the service a coincidence, did the Dealership say £350 to fit the OSR lock would resolve the issue, or was there another reason to replace that lock, as the problem remains.  This situation is disappointing but unfortunately not that surprising when dealing with some in the motor trade. 

 

If the Dealership doesn't want to be reasonable I think I'd try finding a good auto-electrician, or independent garage, with a VW appropriate scanner to diagnose the issue rather than a policy of fitting a series of parts replacements at your expense.

 

Edited 11 November, 20232 yr by nta16

Hi did you ever get this sorted? I am having a similar issue.