Just following the ship fire in Los Angeles as it is a hybrid vessel of mainly container holds but holds 1 and are for cars apparently.

Locals told to keep windows closed. Hopefully all firefighters ok.

21 hours ago, wyx087 said:

There is no panacea. No magic cure. EV fires seem devastating but they are the best solution we currently have to stop mass burning stuff for trivial daily errands.

That is the crux of the matter, right there burning stuff for trivial errands. The problem there is that most of us cannot afford to run 2 or more cars. The ideal would be a small BEV for city use, shopping etc and an ICE for longer trips or one that requires space for 4 very tall males and a taller than most SWMBO, so the less well off have to continue with their ICE car for both types of trips.

11 minutes ago, Graham Butcher said:

That is the crux of the matter, right there burning stuff for trivial errands. The problem there is that most of us cannot afford to run 2 or more cars. The ideal would be a small BEV for city use, shopping etc and an ICE for longer trips or one that requires space for 4 very tall males and a taller than most SWMBO, so the less well off have to continue with their ICE car for both types of trips.

COP 30 had just finished with a very weak declaration as the Saudis and other oil producers would not even allow the word fossil for describing hydro carbons.

It gas been. Increasingly obvious to nany of us that the transition to EVs and Geat Pumps has to simply be an economic choice rather than banning etc.

Fortunately EVs are becoming cheaper and cheaper and more bass production of Heat Pump devices will bring prices to change down further.

Heat pumps running from off peak electricity via LFP or Sodium batteries sound a good blend of tech.

Interesting angle is EU protectionism by levying Countervailing duties on Chinese EVs to help protect their own EV industry that is struggling to compete.

Millions of drivers in the UK will not do long trips driving. There are all sorts out there, just as well there are loads of choices in vehicles, class of vehicles, size and fuel used. Lots of very reasonable priced BEV,s about now and growing numbers of used ones. But that is not what this thread is about.

2 hours ago, Graham Butcher said:

That is the crux of the matter, right there burning stuff for trivial errands. The problem there is that most of us cannot afford to run 2 or more cars. The ideal would be a small BEV for city use, shopping etc and an ICE for longer trips or one that requires space for 4 very tall males and a taller than most SWMBO, so the less well off have to continue with their ICE car for both types of trips.

Again, me, me, me, me. Not willing to see the much bigger picture.

So sad to see the news about Glasgow Central Station fire and its partial destruction.

Interestingly it started in a vape shop as the video shows and it very quickly got out of hand.

Thankfully, nobody, it seems, at least so far, was injured as a result.

Edited 10 March10 Mar by Graham Butcher