12 hours ago, LuxoviaRS said:

 i am pretty light (feather light) on the gas paddle staying below 4000rpm,  actually hardly even reaching 3. 

 

I think this bit in your opening post has caused most of the initial confusion for many (including me) but your subsequent posts have clarified you are trying for better figures and, not unreasonably, disappointed with the results so far, I know I would be.

Comparing figures in a forum like Briskoda is good fun but notoriously difficult because everyone's environment, driving style and vehicle are unique.

The real difficulty is where you are convinced that you have a problem with the car (a potential 'lemon' if you will) and you go back to the dealer and voice your disappointment. It's a high probability that you will be fobbed off with a 'they are all like that', at best they will do a quick scan for errors, and if there are none get a 'shrug' to denote they have done all they can and now it is your problem. Or 'It is new and will improve as the engine runs in'.

 

That last phrase may be true as I know that many contributors on this site have said their consumption got better after putting some k's (or m's) on the clock.

That is not my personal experience with brand new cars, the consumption has never improved through running in, improvements are solely my learning the particular vehicle idiosyncrasies or improvement in journey type or environment.

In fact I'd say that the consumption on our current (owned from new) mk3 1.4tsi, manual, 100k km Octavia is slightly worse now than new. Not surprising considering it is a direct injection engine which spends most of its time in an urban environment at low revs and probably had carbon build up on the inlet valves. Still pretty good though as my wife drives it most of the time now, she is not really an economical driver on her 13km peak time (Adelaide suburbs) commute and on the last refuel covered 680km and refilled with 42 litres for a 6.2l/100 average, so I can hardly complain.

 

You will have to arm yourself with information if you eventually have to do battle with the dealers:

• What sort of car did you have before and what consumption did you get for it on the same commute? That will at least give some idea of your driving habits and consumption expectation.
• As 'Rooted' inferred, it is a good idea to record your refuels and compare actual consumption to the display (particularly the 'since refuel') to get some idea of the display accuracy. Mine showed 6l/100 for the above figures, when new the display was pessimistic and showed 0.1l/100 worse than I actually got. Note that the 'Long term display' is really not that long, resetting at 99 hours or 9999 km whichever is the earlier, but always the 99 hours since you would have to average 100kph for distance.
• When you get an opportunity, find a flat empty road and get some steady speed consumption averages using the cruise control and a reset of the trip average when set up, maybe 80kph and 100kph? Try and use GPS speeds as speedometers are nearly always optimistic. Check the odometer against GPS too when you get a chance, most are reasonably accurate but I had one Korean car that was at least 5% optimistic which meant actual consumption was 5% worse than the truly awful figures it gave anyway.

The Octavia RS is a good car and potentially relatively efficient for its performance potential against comparably priced brands. The official combined and urban figures should be achievable, although the extra urban is always a stretch.

 

On 23/11/2023 at 15:06, LuxoviaRS said:

Hi @kreeker can I confirm is this information here in this link how I turn on the l/100km

https://digital-manual.skoda-auto.com/w/en_GB/show/93359937516bbdab66081fb5647ff98b_6_en_GB?ct=93359937516bbdab66081fb5647ff98b_6_en_GB 

Press the right hand silver wheel on the steering wheel so that you can change the centre info on each of the dials. There's an avg reading /100 and an instantaneous 1. The 2nd is what you're looking for. 

Hi mate. My 2022 RS is averaging about 7l/100km. Got 12000km's on it. Runs mainly on 95RON. Best I've got so far was 6.2km/100km's. Hope this helps.

Do you know how a turbocharger works? A turbocharger forces more air into the engine - and with more air, you can add more fuel to gain more power. This additional air the turbocharger provides is called boost.

 

In the case of the Octavia RS, you get the power (and fuel use) of a non-turbocharged 6 cylinder when in boost, and the economy of a non-turbocharged 4 cylinder when not in boost. Not an exact science, but that's the gist of things. Peak torque of the Octavia RS is around 2000rpm, so you're almost always in boost when accelerating, and it sounds like you're doing a fair chunk of town driving. You'll see that consumption is really low at highway cruising speeds but if you're constantly going from 0 to 50-60kph then you're going to be using a fair amount of fuel.

 

Sounds like you should've gotten a normal Octavia and not an RS...

In mine I'll see low to mid 20's with town driving on longer motorway runs doing 70-75mph i'll see 40mpg most journeys.  I'm happy with that.

On 23/11/2023 at 15:51, Gerrycan said:

 

I think this bit in your opening post has caused most of the initial confusion for many (including me) but your subsequent posts have clarified you are trying for better figures and, not unreasonably, disappointed with the results so far, I know I would be.

Comparing figures in a forum like Briskoda is good fun but notoriously difficult because everyone's environment, driving style and vehicle are unique.

The real difficulty is where you are convinced that you have a problem with the car (a potential 'lemon' if you will) and you go back to the dealer and voice your disappointment. It's a high probability that you will be fobbed off with a 'they are all like that', at best they will do a quick scan for errors, and if there are none get a 'shrug' to denote they have done all they can and now it is your problem. Or 'It is new and will improve as the engine runs in'.

 

That last phrase may be true as I know that many contributors on this site have said their consumption got better after putting some k's (or m's) on the clock.

That is not my personal experience with brand new cars, the consumption has never improved through running in, improvements are solely my learning the particular vehicle idiosyncrasies or improvement in journey type or environment.

In fact I'd say that the consumption on our current (owned from new) mk3 1.4tsi, manual, 100k km Octavia is slightly worse now than new. Not surprising considering it is a direct injection engine which spends most of its time in an urban environment at low revs and probably had carbon build up on the inlet valves. Still pretty good though as my wife drives it most of the time now, she is not really an economical driver on her 13km peak time (Adelaide suburbs) commute and on the last refuel covered 680km and refilled with 42 litres for a 6.2l/100 average, so I can hardly complain.

 

You will have to arm yourself with information if you eventually have to do battle with the dealers:

• What sort of car did you have before and what consumption did you get for it on the same commute? That will at least give some idea of your driving habits and consumption expectation.
• As 'Rooted' inferred, it is a good idea to record your refuels and compare actual consumption to the display (particularly the 'since refuel') to get some idea of the display accuracy. Mine showed 6l/100 for the above figures, when new the display was pessimistic and showed 0.1l/100 worse than I actually got. Note that the 'Long term display' is really not that long, resetting at 99 hours or 9999 km whichever is the earlier, but always the 99 hours since you would have to average 100kph for distance.
• When you get an opportunity, find a flat empty road and get some steady speed consumption averages using the cruise control and a reset of the trip average when set up, maybe 80kph and 100kph? Try and use GPS speeds as speedometers are nearly always optimistic. Check the odometer against GPS too when you get a chance, most are reasonably accurate but I had one Korean car that was at least 5% optimistic which meant actual consumption was 5% worse than the truly awful figures it gave anyway.

The Octavia RS is a good car and potentially relatively efficient for its performance potential against comparably priced brands. The official combined and urban figures should be achievable, although the extra urban is always a stretch. 

 

Hi @Gerrycan yeah i just meant I'm not reving it as high. Yes you are correct comparing it in Briskoda is not totally reliable because of those reasons mentioned, but I just wanted to see as others have the same vehicle or similar.  Not really looking forward to dealing with the dealer if it comes to that. I've read so many people have these negative experiences with them. That's pretty good for your car. Yes as a new one I thought it would be better but I'm willing to wait and see. I've noted all the suggestions. I'll take them into consideration and act upon them, thank you. Yes I first thought that long term was accumulation over the lifetime of the car.  i now know it isn't

I did manage though to find an instant l/h on the cockpit as I believe @kreeker suggested. I took a photo whilst it was idling in neutral/Park waiting for the wife, It was idling at 0.9l/h engine.  The  Just had returned from a short trip. So not driving it too much today short trips. I will need to do bigger drives, to see how it goes in the long country drives included. 

 

3 hours ago, kreeker said:

Press the right hand silver wheel on the steering wheel so that you can change the centre info on each of the dials. There's an avg reading /100 and an instantaneous 1. The 2nd is what you're looking for. 

Yes, thanks for the steps I managed to figure it out a few days ago. 

3 hours ago, shempy said:

Hi mate. My 2022 RS is averaging about 7l/100km. Got 12000km's on it. Runs mainly on 95RON. Best I've got so far was 6.2km/100km's. Hope this helps.

Hi, wow you get great mileage is that a turbo 2.0 litre as well? Yes it does thank you.  

1 hour ago, ZacDaMan72 said:

Do you know how a turbocharger works? A turbocharger forces more air into the engine - and with more air, you can add more fuel to gain more power. This additional air the turbocharger provides is called boost.

 

In the case of the Octavia RS, you get the power (and fuel use) of a non-turbocharged 6 cylinder when in boost, and the economy of a non-turbocharged 4 cylinder when not in boost. Not an exact science, but that's the gist of things. Peak torque of the Octavia RS is around 2000rpm, so you're almost always in boost when accelerating, and it sounds like you're doing a fair chunk of town driving. You'll see that consumption is really low at highway cruising speeds but if you're constantly going from 0 to 50-60kph then you're going to be using a fair amount of fuel.

 

Sounds like you should've gotten a normal Octavia and not an RS...

Thanks yes I have some idea. Still learning though. Yes, i understand the theory behind it. Do you have any data that says peak torque of the Octavia rs is at 2000, I'm trying to find that info. Yes fair enough you make a valid point. Still I enjoy the car.  

On 22/11/2023 at 20:31, EnterName said:

You might do well to have a cheeky oil change after the running in period

 

What is cheeky about an unscheduled oil change?

 

I keep hearing younger people using "cheeky" in what seems to me a completely inappropriate manner, I cannot understand what they are trying to convey by using it, when I ask them they have no answer and I conclude that for them at least its just another lame superfluous filler word, what were you trying to convey?

6 minutes ago, J.R. said:

 

What is cheeky about an unscheduled oil change?

 

I keep hearing younger people using "cheeky" in what seems to me a completely inappropriate manner, I cannot understand what they are trying to convey by using it, when I ask them they have no answer and I conclude that for them at least its just another lame superfluous filler word, what were you trying to convey?

It's a good question, @J.R.

On 22/11/2023 at 19:31, EnterName said:

You might do well to have a cheeky oil change after the running in period to clear out any particles knocking about as a result of running in.

But some might see that as a bit overkill.

My use of the word "cheeky" in the above phrase was used to acknowledge the fact that there is no scheduled oil change immediately after the running in period, so changing the oil at that time would be superfluous to the manufacturer's recommended service intervals.

Furthermore, using "cheeky" was intended to add my characteristic playfulness to my posts, as well as not place any burden of requirement on Lux, who might not have any spare money for what could be argued is a spurious oil change shortly after purchasing a new car.

Beyond that, there is also a subtle cultural implication of pleasure in my use of "cheeky" as it brings to mind (thought possibly not to your mind), the idea of something that can be done fairly quickly and will provide a measure of pleasure.

Hence the rather tired expression "Fancy a cheeky Nando's?", from which I drew inspiration, though one might also have heard "Fancy a cheeky pint at lunchtime?" between colleagues at work.

 

The lame superfluous filler word I was substituting for "cheeky" would be "quick", which I suggest is the word from which the colloquial use of "cheeky" has evolved, though I'd be willing to hear other people's opinions on its etymology.

Use of the word "quick" would have implied that no other work beyond the oil and filter would be carried out, but while for some the act of changing the oil in their car is a quick job, for others, it is not, and requires some inconvenience.

By substituting "cheeky" for "quick", I acknowledge that the oil change might be unnecessary and possibly inconvenient, but that Lux would be happy with the outcome, without placing any burden of expectation upon Lux that he should change the oil after running in his car.

 

You grumpy old so and so! 😋