Hi.  I'm considering buying a new Kodiaq or Karoq, but I'm keen to stay under the £40,000 road tax threshold as I'm resent (I'm obviously too tight!) paying an extra £390 (or whatever it is now) on top of the £180 or so, that I'd normally pay for cars under that list price.

 

I've looked on auto trader for some pre-reg cars and while some have discounts, I can see that their kit levels, etc. are such that their list prices were over £40,000.

 

I've also looked at the Skoda UK website and all the new build options, but I can't find out if all the various options and extras count towards the list price.  I'm guessing that engine type, wheels, paint, etc. clearly does, but do things like a the extended warranty, spare wheel kit, mudflats and mats, etc. also count?  If so, I'll opt to buy some of those items (obviously not the extended warranty option as that has to be at the time of purchase)  after I've got the car.  

 

Thank you in advance for any helpful answers and for your forbearance if my question is asking the obvious!

That higher rate supplement tax ( used to be known commonly known as luxury car tax ) is applicable to the full list price of car + list price of any options / accessories.  If you're going new Kodiaq, then realisitcally you only have SE Drive to chose from. ( or fancy a std SE-L in no cost solid paint ).

 

As long as you keep to the 1.5tsi, you'd have to go some to buy a Karoq that qualifies for the addtional tax but it certainly can be done. I think both 2.0 Sportlines will qualify.

 

I have to say that in disbelief - over £40k for a bog standard 2.0tsi Karoq Sportline -  😲 Jeez oh.    As you say, it'll be a rare breed who's willing to pay almost £600 a year to tax a Karoq so that in itself must lead to eyewatering depreciation here in the UK.

Edited 19 December, 20232 yr by kodiaqsportline

Doesn't the Enyaq start at around £38,000

 

Why not go electric if you are spending that kind of money?

On 19/12/2023 at 11:43, kodiaqsportline said:

That higher rate supplement tax ( used to be known commonly known as luxury car tax ) is applicable to the full list price of car + list price of any options / accessories.  If you're going new Kodiaq, then realisitcally you only have SE Drive to chose from. ( or fancy a std SE-L in no cost solid paint ).

 

As long as you keep to the 1.5tsi, you'd have to go some to buy a Karoq that qualifies for the addtional tax but it certainly can be done. I think both 2.0 Sportlines will qualify.

 

I have to say that in disbelief - over £40k for a bog standard 2.0tsi Karoq Sportline -  😲 Jeez oh.    As you say, it'll be a rare breed who's willing to pay almost £600 a year to tax a Karoq so that in itself must lead to eyewatering depreciation here in the UK.

Thank for your reply.  That's helpful.

 

As I said, I've looked at the Skoda Uk build-a car websitet and it looks like I could buy a Kodiaq Drive 5 seats with a 2.0 diesel engine 4x4, with basic blue colour and possibly add the winter pack, but a few other options  (I can have a spare space saver cost £0).  I'd really also Matrix LED light package, but that's too much.. But, I could have, in addition to the winter pack, the drive mode select; lumbar support; folding door mirrors/heated, which comes at £39975...at current list prices!

 

I like the Drive as 18" wheels are best suited for me (I live in a very rural place in the Pennines and need to cope with snow, mud, etc.) being less low profile. I've used a Subaru Outback recently, which has all the top end safety kit, but to be frank as I do very little motorway driving the adaptive cruise control, lane-keep assist, lane departure warning; lead car alert; etc., weren't used very much. Cross traffic alert was handy, but not a deal breaker, as was front and side cameras. 

 

Time to visit a dealership I guess, which I often find to be quite dispiriting  

1 hour ago, Woolbeck said:

As I said, I've looked at the Skoda Uk build-a car websitet and it looks like I could buy a Kodiaq Drive 5 seats with a 2.0 diesel engine 4x4, with basic blue colour and possibly add the winter pack, but a few other options  (I can have a spare space saver cost £0).  I'd really also Matrix LED light package, but that's too much.. But, I could have, in addition to the winter pack, the drive mode select; lumbar support; folding door mirrors/heated, which comes at £39975...at current list prices!

 

 

 

The use of the exclamation mark says it all.  When you're so close to list then it's a big gamble ordering in advance many have been caught out with small price rises. And cross your fingers there's not another budget !

 

That number of options could well delay the build ( might even roll in to the new model ) which could unwittingly qualify for the higher tax. Me? If I were going for a new mk1 Kodiaq, I'd be looking at what UK dealers have in stock.

 

That said, not sure your're aware of it, and admittidly it's confusing, but the list price isn't what's given in the price list.   The OTR price that Skoda quotes will be slightly over that list price that used for annual VED calculation.

 

I believe the 1st year VED and registration fee aren't included when calculating the list - so that's £55 registration fee but more importantly the 1st year tax which I'm unabe to comment on because I don't know the latest data or the exact emmissions for the car you've configured.  I'm guessing t's probably within the £650 - £1000'ish range.   So for VED luxury tax, I'd have thought you could go up to a brochure ( OTR ) price of around £40700 - £41000 before that extra tax kicks in.    It's best asking your dealer what the exact price is.

 

They don't make it easy to calcluate !   

Edited 20 December, 20232 yr by kodiaqsportline

Well, I did get caught with paying the extra tax. To be honest I had forgotten all about it, bar that the car had to be under £40,000 new. I looked on auto trader, but the dealers always put the lowest tax rate in their ads. I was for a moment interested in a newish Skoda with petrol engine. Priced at below the £40,000 line. However on ringing the dealer and getting evasive replies to my questions I did a build my car on Skodas own website and with that information find that the car tax would be over £840 for 5 years. To hell with that. However being a complete fool, I failed to ask the question again on buying my car and the tax is £560 for the next 3 years. I am not into green nonsense at all, and sick of paying higher taxes to support it.

Beware of dealers who include the first year in the list price of a used car , the supplement applies from year 2 to 6

Edited 26 December, 20232 yr by Stonekeeper

With the £40K threshold being set in 2017 and with it appearing to be fixed at that level for the foreseeable future, it's another stealth tax more and more motorists will have to bear the cost of.  Basically, the WEF, Davos and the other global elites want to force us plebs to rely on public transport and lose the freedoms we've enjoyed since car ownership became affordable for most ordinary people in the 1960s until recently. 

 

In the short term they want to force us to go EV, but that's also turning out to be a complete disaster too, see for e.g

 

 https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2023-china-ev-graveyards/

Use DLVA Vehicle check and look for the lines after the Date First Registered, if its says Additional Rate Applicable to : with a date, then it cost over £40k and the date is when the additional rater ends.

 

The List price includes all extras on the car when purchased, including Delivery, PDI but excluding 1st year VED which is based on emissions. and first registration charge (£55). Interestingly because VED is non transferable anymore,  for a pre reg the dealer gets a refund on the remainder and the purchaser has to pay the VED at the second year rate.

 

With things that can be fitted at the dealership like mudflaps, towbars, extra mats, pay for them to be done after its bee purchased, that way they are not include in the List Price.