45 minutes ago, Rooted said:

  It is  actually 5% tax on electricity for those using charging at domestic premises.

 

 

Good point.

I wonder what increases will come about and where to make up for all the tax paid on fossil fuels once the majority of vehicles are EVs?

Whether its 5% or 20% there is less tax going in to the coffers from EVs per mile driven, something's going to have to go up to cover the shortfall and at the very least I can see VED rates for EVs equalling or  overtaking those for ICE (at some future point).

3 minutes ago, Winston_Woof said:

Good point.

I wonder what increases will come about and where to make up for all the tax paid on fossil fuels once the majority of vehicles are EVs?

Whether its 5% or 20% there is less tax going in to the coffers from EVs per mile driven, something's going to have to go up to cover the shortfall and at the very least I can see VED rates for EVs equalling or  overtaking those for ICE (at some future point).

 

VED of 10p a kwh?

12 minutes ago, Stonekeeper said:

 

VED of 10p a kwh?

Plus VAT on top of that of course to keep it inline with the 55p litre flat rate on fossil fuels ;o)

@Winston_Woof  The Social Divide thread is in the EV Section.

 

That is almost a Class Divide.   Those with offstreet parking, those that can home or work place charge. Those that might have Smart Meters and offpeak tariffs, then those that have Solar, Wind or Hydro generation for their properties. 

 

This might not necessarily be the better off of these countries that make up the UK but there is pretty much a chance it is those.

So as far as the Government are concerned you just earn more and you have enough.

 

It is pretty much like any cars you buy or drive what you want or can afford and if money is not an issue then neither is Fuels, VED, Congestion Charges or LEZ,s. 

 

Money problems are for plebs.  

4 minutes ago, Rooted said:

 

 

That is almost a Class Divide.   Those with off street parking, those that can home or work place charge. Those that might have Smart Meters and offpeak tariffs, then those that have Solar, Wind or Hydro generation for their properties. 

 

 

However *if* hydrogen fuel cells were to supplant batteries then that would be equivalent to the current fossil fuel scenario in terms of availability and the taxation could also follow the current fossil fuel model  ;o)

We have the Hydrogen threads on the forum.

Aberdeen being a city with a couple of Hydrogen Filling Stations, Busses and Council vehicles running on hydrogen and the ships tied up in port going to run on hydrogen. 

This is what you can have when there is more than enough electricity being generated than is getting used in the region.

Just a pity that the Community Centres / Swimming pools can not be heated by this same Hydrogen or Electricity. 

Edited 18 February, 20242 yr by Rooted

Hydrogen will eventually be blended with our natural gas supply like ethanol is with petrol?

As is being trialled in Fife where there is also a fleet of hydrogen powered vehicles.

Again where there is a plentiful supply of electricity from wind generation and not enough use being made of it as the transmission cost is high.

As well to produce hydrogen from it. 

Edited 31 October, 20241 yr by Ootohere

It was always going to be so. as soon as there were enough EVs on the road they just become 'cars' and are therefore a target for taxation.
ICE cars will get hit with punative taxes as well soon enough to drive them of the roads. But I'm sure that expensive exotics will be somehow exempt through 'classic' rules.
So your chap with a 20yr old Ferrari won't pay but a 20yr old transit will.