Must be annoying to get so far and then see it fail. Just a thought - these are big files, and if you make several attempts, even if they fail half way, they could be leaving partial files on the computer. If the PC only has a modestly sized memory and there's not much room available, then that may cause a problem. Also remember that any 'failure' files you put into recycling are still there. So may be worth emptying the recycling bin (either fully or at least all big items) plus deleting any previous year update files still hanging about on the PC. I cheat as my mate has some ridiculously fast fibre broadband package, so does the download, unzip and load of the flash drive for me - all done before we've finished the first beer!

Reckon download manager is the answer then you also see the incomplete files that you can scrub. I'm probably too use to using the Turbo Manager. Good point making sure you got the space.

I might also have a ridiculous 900 Mb connection as well 🫠. Started on rural wireless broadband moving from fibre in London to wobbly roof aerial rural broadband. Two years of getting up in the night to cokes these big downloads. Turbo Manager comes into it with that. Then on full fibre to the property and installed Asus mesh, outing the OpenReach router. Like living in a hotel in London now... mesh and fibre. 4g is rubbish thou in these parts.

3 hours ago, Tell said:

Reckon download manager is the answer then you also see the incomplete files that you can scrub. I'm probably too use to using the Turbo Manager. Good point making sure you got the space.

I might also have a ridiculous 900 Mb connection as well 🫠. Started on rural wireless broadband moving from fibre in London to wobbly roof aerial rural broadband. Two years of getting up in the night to cokes these big downloads. Turbo Manager comes into it with that. Then on full fibre to the property and installed Asus mesh, outing the OpenReach router. Like living in a hotel in London now... mesh and fibre. 4g is rubbish thou in these parts.

Actually its the site thats the problem I have a 500Mbs internet connection and it is no faster than my old 50Mbs. Was amazed but there it is Your connection cant go faster than the server feeds it. Also it must have ALL the files as if you dont it wont work.

Yes but if the server has a wobble the download manager can handle it. Where the download managers come in. Mega people are hot on them prior to them offering their own.

This is the one that mibsolutions recommend

https://www.a5oc.com/attachments/mibsolution-one-fix-download-speed-vag-mib2-1-pdf.184875/

Its all the same stuff, parallel connections. We assume that Skoda has that facility on the server. They probably all do. The Turbo Manager is the one I use. Firefox addon.

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Dunno where this is coming from Had to download 27GB files for RNS 510 and Mib 2 and cant remember one stopping in the middle. has usually take 2 1/2 hours to download those maps. May be something to do with internet provider. I used to use d/load managers years ago but never needed them lately. Different country different problems??????

48 minutes ago, Exkiwi said:

Dunno where this is coming from Had to download 27GB files for RNS 510 and Mib 2 and cant remember one stopping in the middle. has usually take 2 1/2 hours to download those maps. May be something to do with internet provider. I used to use d/load managers years ago but never needed them lately. Different country different problems??????

Probably use roapy old servers. The faster you can get it off the less likely you'll be exposed to server issues. VW servers tended to be faster but then Skoda has the goodies on them of recent.

Doesn't hurt using the Turbo Manager or similar if you experience issues.

Why do Skoda make it so difficult to cross check the navigation data base level shown in the system information, to the one you spend hours downloading, just checked mine in the vehicle and it is showing 25.7, it must be easy for them to show it on the download then we wouldn't spend hours downloading it to find out it is the same or older...

43 minutes ago, Bryfly said:

Why do Skoda make it so difficult to cross check the navigation data base level shown in the system information, to the one you spend hours downloading, just checked mine in the vehicle and it is showing 25.7, it must be easy for them to show it on the download then we wouldn't spend hours downloading it to find out it is the same or older...

Well if you keep the file you d/loaded you compare it with the new one that comes out

File names have different nos in them like our last two were 139 then 146 Is not hard VW is tha same and have the same number in them so you can cross check

Ive got the last 3 in my download folder just in case I have to revert to one of them

57 minutes ago, Bryfly said:

Why do Skoda make it so difficult to cross check the navigation data base level shown in the system information, to the one you spend hours downloading, just checked mine in the vehicle and it is showing 25.7, it must be easy for them to show it on the download then we wouldn't spend hours downloading it to find out it is the same or older...

Well if you got an active connect services contract for navigation you have no real requirement to update the maps via the download. Its all automatic. The infotainment screen shows you the current release. Under contract map services you should get one monthly. If not under contract then they are made available twice a year.

@MartiniB publishes the serial number. Obviously if you get them via the portal the webpage author may not edit that into the front web page. A helpful soul told us where to find that in the files after I'd been asking. The issue at that time was across Vag old mib3 maps were shown, with different file names by brand although all the same update. So now we know how to read the yyyy.mm and they can be placed by their update, date, not filename.

Currently only Skoda files are the most update mib3 files which are interchangeable. That may change. Thus its best to look at @MartiniB links if you want the best updated ones rather than the portal of the Vag brands. If you have brand loyalty with offline maps you may be running with old navigation files that you can better. If you use connect services and pay for navigation map file updates and have the connect services set up correctly, then it automatic.

MartiniB posts the threads here which cover all Skoda navigation models.

https://www.briskoda.net/forums/forum/7-audio-electronics-and-security/

Clear as a bell.

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21 hours ago, Tell said:

Well if you got an active connect services contract for navigation you have no real requirement to update the maps via the download. Its all automatic. The infotainment screen shows you the current release. Under contract map services you should get one monthly. If not under contract then they are made available twice a year.

@MartiniB publishes the serial number. Obviously if you get them via the portal the webpage author may not edit that into the front web page. A helpful soul told us where to find that in the files after I'd been asking. The issue at that time was across Vag old mib3 maps were shown, with different file names by brand although all the same update. So now we know how to read the yyyy.mm and they can be placed by their update, date, not filename.

Currently only Skoda files are the most update mib3 files which are interchangeable. That may change. Thus its best to look at @MartiniB links if you want the best updated ones rather than the portal of the Vag brands. If you have brand loyalty with offline maps you may be running with old navigation files that you can better. If you use connect services and pay for navigation map file updates and have the connect services set up correctly, then it automatic.

MartiniB posts the threads here which cover all Skoda navigation models.

https://www.briskoda.net/forums/forum/7-audio-electronics-and-security/

Clear as a bell.

I think what he means is that the file name in the download is quite different to the file name after you install it

EG Latest off line map for AUS is.........146 which when it gets in the car become 25.2 Also as far as swapping brands between Skoda and VW for the maps Ive been doing that since I got a Passat with an RNS 510 in 2010 and always works.. Only thing that doesnt work is you cant load a map version over its self.. Tried that accidentally about a year ago and wondered why it wasnt working and turned out it was already in there and I had mistaken it and tried to do it again a couple of moths later

4 minutes ago, Exkiwi said:

I think what he means is that the file name in the download is quite different to the file name after you install it

EG Latest off line map for AUS is.........146 which when it gets in the car become 25.2 Also as far as swapping brands between Skoda and VW for the maps Ive been doing that since I got a Passat with an RNS 510 in 2010 and always works.. Only thing that doesnt work is you cant load a map version over its self.. Tried that accidentally about a year ago and wondered why it wasnt working and turned out it was already in there and I had mistaken it and tried to do it again a couple of moths later

Yes the maps have seriel codes known to the unit the yyyy.dd is the code for mib3. Mib2 they are just numbers. One set for mib2 standard, one set for the mib2 high. Those codes are the same across all Vag brands and the map files are interchangeable as long as they are for the same release. Mib3 has I recall three types of infotainment. Youd have to eyeball @MartiniB files. I've seen three for mib3. Two for ICE, one for EVs. When you could freely look at the VW site you could place what worked with what. I believe the third less common file is for large screen models. When you enter your VIN into say the Skoda site it only tells you yours. The logo files that MartiniB publishes you try out each mib3 if uncertain. It only works with the one it's designed to work with. I got a suspicion that the third one is only seen on Audi.

When downloading from the portal on the browser you can read, button left on Firefox, the name of the file or when it downloads. Thats the file type and place against @MartiniB navigation links. Then those are the future files you want, bracketed by his posts into VAG navigation unit.

As for forward releases. That yyyy.mm is like the mib2 standard release an upgrade will only be actioned if yyyy.mm (new) > yyyy.mm (old ) for mib3.

In mib2 there is the developers menu (back end menu). SWDL is the software download command in that. Any file, firmware, maps, pois, logos etc. Can be uploaded to the unit irrespective of whether they are "new" or "old". You can go back versions or write onto itself.

Mib1 you could get into this via a very long hold on the menu button. Mib2 they locked that down but with VCDS, Obdeleven etc you can unlock access to the developers menu and the long hold will give you the second screen with the SWDL command on it. You can also update each entity, region etc of the maps. I pass on what some of the map entities are. For example you can update just Iceland in a Europe in a mib2 high. This is one of my tests in playing about with the maps - lot faster than the 40 minute for all of Europe.

The heady days of backend menus for mib3 is over, you are locked out as far as I know. Thus you can't reinstall an old map or a map onto itself using the backend developers menu. Its not available. It could be a case of never say never. Vag want to keep wondering hands out of the backend of mib3. You can look at the SWAP / FeC codes, the first screen on the long hold, but not the second screen of the longer hold on the menu button.

Edit

You'll be pleased to know looking at MartiniB's last mib3 post of file links to the map servers for navigation for Skoda cars, currently only deal with one file type... the other two haven't arrived yet to Skoda 🫡. They are on other Vag cars.

https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/513799-mib3-map-updates-202406/

Anyhow that check above is the one to get you into the ball park. Then you read off your yyyy.mm from the infotainment unit and compare with the published link of whether its an update. If ofcourse you have subscribed to connect services for map files and its correctly configured, you as primary user, not hiding your identity since you want to murder someone etc... then you should get it automatically. Not good to go incognito in the car with connected services you dont get updates and youd still get nobbled for crimes.

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All very complicated and beyond most peoples understanding. I just keep the downloaded map file until the next one comes out and see what the number is Eg present one for AUS is ............146.............. Prev one was ...................129...................... Otherwise just go to Martins page as he seems to get them like a guy on Vw watercooled in Australia

8 minutes ago, Tell said:

Yes the maps have seriel codes known to the unit the yyyy.dd is the code for mib3. Mib2 they are just numbers. One set for mib2 standard, one set for the mib2 high. Those codes are the same across all Vag brands and the map files are interchangeable as long as they are for the same release. Mib3 has I recall three types of infotainment. Youd have to eyeball @MartiniB files. I've seen three for mib3. Two for ICE, one for EVs. When you could freely look at the VW site you could place what worked with what. I believe the third less common file is for large screen models. When you enter your VIN into say the Skoda site it only tells you yours. The logo files that MartiniB publishes you try out each mib3 if uncertain. It only works with the one it's designed to work with. I got a suspicion that the third one is only seen on Audi.

When downloading from the portal on the browser you can read, button left on Firefox, the name of the file or when it downloads. Thats the file type and place against @MartiniB navigation links. Then those are the future files you want, bracketed by his posts into VAG navigation unit.

As for forward releases. That yyyy.mm is like the mib2 standard release an upgrade will only be actioned if yyyy.mm (new) > yyyy.mm (old ) for mib3.

In mib2 there is the developers menu (back end menu). SWDL is the software download command in that. Any file, firmware, maps, pois, logos etc. Can be uploaded to the unit irrespective of whether they are "new" or "old". You can go back versions or write onto itself.

Mib1 you could get into this via a very long hold on the menu button. Mib2 they locked that down but with VCDS, Obdeleven etc you can unlock access to the developers menu and the long hold will give you the second screen with the SWDL command on it. You can also update each entity, region etc of the maps. I pass on what some of the map entities are. For example you can update just Iceland in a Europe in a mib2 high. This is one of my tests in playing about with the maps - lot faster than the 40 minute for all of Europe.

The heady days of backend menus for mib3 is over, you are locked out as far as I know. Thus you can't reinstall an old map or a map onto itself using the backend developers menu. Its not available. It could be a case of never say never. Vag want to keep wondering hands out of the backend of mib3. You can look at the SWAP / FeC codes, the first screen on the long hold, but not the second screen of the longer hold on the menu button.

1 minute ago, Exkiwi said:

All very complicated and beyond most peoples understanding. I just keep the downloaded map file until the next one comes out and see what the number is Eg present one for AUS is ............146.............. Prev one was ...................129...................... Otherwise just go to Martins page as he seems to get them like a guy on Vw watercooled in Australia

I keep three versions back.

The complication with the connected services is whether in contract or not. If in contract for map updates then then off line thread isnt for you. If shifting from contract services to a six monthly off line MartiniBs threads are and you need to know your yyyy.mm which is really the map seriel release in the unit. If @MartiniB link as posted above has a latter yyyy.mm then you are in business for a USB map update. It is the same as mib2 its the seriel number of the map release which is the key.

Offline maps tend to be released June / November but appear on the file servers earlier discovered by those people that look for them. Also Vag sub brands get lazy at publishing them and drag their heels. Hence you take the first Vag brand one released and dont wait for your tardy brand to publish it. Its all the same.

At the minute all releases for June are out and we seem to have the mib2 standard November release as well.

Some (most?) of the technical aspects of this topic must be leaving most users (myself included) feeling totally out in the cold. I started using computers (desktop IBM PC-XT) in 1976(?) and have tried (with a fair degree of success) to keep up with the march of progress, but developments over the past, say, ten years have left me scratching my head on a very large number of occasions.

I have just tried to update the maps on my Amundsen MiB3 system ('72 plate SEL) & encountered the stalled unzip problem mentioned by a few. I eventually managed it by ignoring my dedicated zip/unzip programmes & resorted to the built in Windows 10 context menu "Extract All...." command, and this seems to have worked. It took a couple of hours but appears to have completed and I have now plugged in the flash drive so hopefully might see some actual results in the next couple of weeks.

(I was particularly keen to update the system as a new stretch of the A30 (mid to west Cornwall) which opened just over a year ago was not reflected on the currently installed maps version, and the system kept (keeps?) restricting me to 40mph when using cruise control - hopefully I'll have got rid of that problem with this update.)

Fingers crossed ! !

10 minutes ago, IanPerry316 said:

Some (most?) of the technical aspects of this topic must be leaving most users (myself included) feeling totally out in the cold. I started using computers (desktop IBM PC-XT) in 1976(?) and have tried (with a fair degree of success) to keep up with the march of progress, but developments over the past, say, ten years have left me scratching my head on a very large number of occasions.

I have just tried to update the maps on my Amundsen MiB3 system ('72 plate SEL) & encountered the stalled unzip problem mentioned by a few. I eventually managed it by ignoring my dedicated zip/unzip programmes & resorted to the built in Windows 10 context menu "Extract All...." command, and this seems to have worked. It took a couple of hours but appears to have completed and I have now plugged in the flash drive so hopefully might see some actual results in the next couple of weeks.

(I was particularly keen to update the system as a new stretch of the A30 (mid to west Cornwall) which opened just over a year ago was not reflected on the currently installed maps version, and the system kept (keeps?) restricting me to 40mph when using cruise control - hopefully I'll have got rid of that problem with this update.)

Fingers crossed ! !

Well the youngsters like to reject the built in maps and use Google Maps etc but neglect to understand the relationship between ACC and the built in maps. Those with EVs and the predictive regeneration.... still you can't tell some people.

Google maps aren't produced by a proper cartography company. If they can get a camera car down it, its a road although its a private un made farm track ticks the boxes. Ditto builders roads on estates. They are put in by the estate builder. They get digitised by Google maps and it becomes a fact. Now if you were driving a bull dozer it would be fine. The roads are grubbed up, houses built on them but still they remain in Google maps. Then the mapping companies digitally analyse each other maps and say, hey there is a road here and put it in, when there isnt. The blind leading the blind if good validation isnt carried out.

The OS Planning maps are the defacto statutory official maps of the UK. Crown copyright. If it's not on them, it doesn't exist as a passed development. The house numbers are allocated by the LA on these maps with their road names added. They dont have road speeds, those have to be extracted by the cartography companies if they are doing it correctly by writing to the LAs. This they do. Others dont. Road positioning, mapping car or aeriel images. Some cartography companies use synthetic house numbering where they stretch the house numbers equal distance between the start of the road and end of the road. No good if a park is in the middle. Lazy way of doing it.

For my sins I did work in health service planning where we used gravity modelling, travel time modelingl for service planning plus all the other management science techniques. At the time when the NHS has planned and had capital to build things. We started to get into GIS as NHS planning just at time when it was abandoned in favour of market management, so I shifted to that but kept an interest in spatial stuff. Well us mathematician dont trust geographers 😀. I'm a management scientist by profession. I did built a microcomputer from chips once... many solder joints. It was an evaluation I was given by someone advising the BBC home computer project. Here you go try building this, my old Senior Research Fellow manager. Had a minor in computer science. Dry solder joint in the power supply stopped it working. Built a teletext decoder once... misspent youth.

Anyhow. Zip files. The built in unzip in Windows these days can be used rather 7zip. 7zip can be used but use the most uptodate copy. It seems in anycase the most recent reports of it moaning seems to load fine in the car. Skoda seems to have an ability of not being able to zip their files too well.

I say loading up the most recent maps in the car is like hot cakes, get them whilst hot in case they go.

As I said at the end of my post........"Fingers crossed ! !"

I do occasionally use Google maps & Waze as I find a lot of the supplementary information they provide is very useful.

I do, however, prefer the graphics used in the built in system; if I can get that up to date I should be able to cope with anything.

(Will now wait for the whole thing to gp t*ts up & have to go back to square one.........)

5 minutes ago, IanPerry316 said:

As I said at the end of my post........"Fingers crossed ! !"

I do occasionally use Google maps & Waze as I find a lot of the supplementary information they provide is very useful.

I do, however, prefer the graphics used in the built in system; if I can get that up to date I should be able to cope with anything.

(Will now wait for the whole thing to gp t*ts up & have to go back to square one.........)

I do send people of to look at Here Maps Mapcreator at times where the cars maps and road dont tally. You will see in their development database the road speeds given. If you see 40mph you know its been done. You have the max speed and the average speed box. I kind of hope the routing algorithm uses the average speed but moderated by traffic reports.

Nice graphics on Map Creator. I'll keep it bookmarked for future reference.

26 minutes ago, IanPerry316 said:

Nice graphics on Map Creator. I'll keep it bookmarked for future reference.

Yes that's your tool to add corrections that go into the moderation cycle. Element of AI in there. They can get ignored at times and the underlying maps aren't always the most recent but if you do GPS track mapping for hiking those tools you can lay a track and reflect back onto Map Creator based on newer aeriel images. The Here Maps staff have the latest aerial images but due to licencing Map Creator shows more the public domain ones. Cheaper for them.

3 hours ago, IanPerry316 said:

Nice graphics on Map Creator. I'll keep it bookmarked for future reference.

Why are you still using Windows 10 when 11 is free ans better

1 hour ago, Exkiwi said:

Why are you still using Windows 10 when 11 is free ans better

1 hour ago, Exkiwi said:

Why are you still using Windows 10 when 11 is free ans better

They are probably on unsupported hardware which could be 32bit or the processor not having that security chip. Later the solution I use on the old office computer is this

https://www.seatcupra.net/forums/threads/windows-11-22h2-23h2-24h2-upgrade-on-unsupported-64bit-hardware-link.470723/

Use the server command, a wrinkle Microsoft left in for "server" machines. Looks like it will work with Windows 11 25h2, did with 24h2.

Then they might have a fully specified Windows 11 machine with pesky drivers. Had to use this to find the offending one.

https://www.seatcupra.net/forums/threads/windows-11-24h2-sorting-out-those-pesky-drivers-that-stop-it-doing-the-second-boot-on-the-upgrade.477634/

24h2 had many upgrade issues from 23h2 on Windows 11.

Some users may stick with Windows 10, paying that fee / offer for one year of updates. Others may go to the Internet of things release with a long life of updates. A token can be bought for the license. Only gives you three years.

We are alright on Windows 11 24h2 on a compliant machine that should go into Windows 12 at some point. The unsupported ones probably wont get to Windows 12. Time will tell. Then its out it or the Internet of things release for 11 to buy time. With crafty editing the implementation you should be able to retain the existing data and programs. Examples on the YouTube. Think I'll buy new hardware myself when my old office computer from 2012 isnt up to it - 3 years is a short period. The newer 2 in 1 laptop is fine.

3 hours ago, Tell said:

They are probably on unsupported hardware which could be 32bit or the processor not having that security chip. Later the solution I use on the old office computer is this

https://www.seatcupra.net/forums/threads/windows-11-22h2-23h2-24h2-upgrade-on-unsupported-64bit-hardware-link.470723/

Use the server command, a wrinkle Microsoft left in for "server" machines. Looks like it will work with Windows 11 25h2, did with 24h2.

Then they might have a fully specified Windows 11 machine with pesky drivers. Had to use this to find the offending one.

https://www.seatcupra.net/forums/threads/windows-11-24h2-sorting-out-those-pesky-drivers-that-stop-it-doing-the-second-boot-on-the-upgrade.477634/

24h2 had many upgrade issues from 23h2 on Windows 11.

Some users may stick with Windows 10, paying that fee / offer for one year of updates. Others may go to the Internet of things release with a long life of updates. A token can be bought for the license. Only gives you three years.

We are alright on Windows 11 24h2 on a compliant machine that should go into Windows 12 at some point. The unsupported ones probably wont get to Windows 12. Time will tell. Then its out it or the Internet of things release for 11 to buy time. With crafty editing the implementation you should be able to retain the existing data and programs. Examples on the YouTube. Think I'll buy new hardware myself when my old office computer from 2012 isnt up to it - 3 years is a short period. The newer 2 in 1 laptop is fine.

Im on Win 11 insider program but Im buggared if I know what I actually get different to the hoi polloi. WIndows updates every few days. Am running a MSI Tomahawk board with a Series 12 CHIP 32GB RAM AND 4 HDD. Have a 500Mbs internet connection.

3 hours ago, Exkiwi said:

Im on Win 11 insider program but Im buggared if I know what I actually get different to the hoi polloi. WIndows updates every few days. Am running a MSI Tomahawk board with a Series 12 CHIP 32GB RAM AND 4 HDD. Have a 500Mbs internet connection.

You are only suppose to be a member if you know what you are doing to test out new builds. One of the complaints is that Microsoft has cut its testing staff and relies on the Insider programme as a cheap alternative. The issues 24h2 were identified by people on the Insider programme and ignored. Not making the best use of the programme. I didnt bother. I could not risk loosing the PC I used for business, so whilst I joined the programme I never installed any builds.

This has gone completely off-topic...and I work in IT 🤔

But the main page is here for latest mib3 navigation file release:

https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/513799-mib3-map-updates-202406/

Poor old @MartiniB does all the work but people try and reinvent the wheel. So this one is off topic 😉. You get this on the SeatCupra board. There is an area but think the files are specific to the model. Then you get duplication.

The main index of the files is here:

https://www.briskoda.net/forums/forum/7-audio-electronics-and-security/

The question I seem to recall is why the maps wont update if on connected services. The importance of the yyyy.dd and not the file name. The offline maps can't better the connected services maps if they have been distributed on time. 2025.05 on file did come out before the connected services got it on some units.

If you give up connected services then it may take 6-12 months before the offline maps catch up. You look at @MartiniB files since he's the resident Guru on sniffing them out. Board members pass any onto him where his sniffing out algorithms miss them out. As said Vag brands can get tardi at distributing these files. Sometimes Skoda is a head, VW or Seat. Sometimes one of the brands misses out a release as Skoda did in the past and became six months behind VW on the mib2 standard for three years or so. Skoda at the minute is ahead in general on all the files.

On that very first question the YYYY.MM may change but those with LED usbs say it continues to flash which means it hasn't completed. My deduction is dont pull the USB straight out if you dont have a LED one. The maps are segmented into areas for online update. Its likely that when the YYYY.MM changes its updated just your local zone, like South England etc. The structure of the file is designed for connect services where it pulls back what it requires. Leave the USB in longer and it actually completes in total. Why people like the USBs which have a LED on them.

Edited 18 August, 202518 Aug by Tell