17 hours ago, SLeeperking said:

if u can afford winter tyres and u drive in snow i Highley recommend getting winter tyres

in uk there is snow but gets cleaned very quick theres not much point 

 

winter tires are a whole different thing, they are like snow chains and have a great grip 

@SLeeperking For decades i have used 'Snow' tyres, All Terrain Tyres, M+S Tyres in Tayside and sometimes all year on some vehicles.

For the past years All Seasons have done me well around Scotland in all weathers even where the Snow Gates have been closed and i have been within them at Glenshee, the Lecht etc.

Even back in 2009 & 2010 All Seasons were sufficient in the Angus Glens, Glendoll, GlenIsla etc.

Tyres like Michelin Alpin 6 or Riken Snow tyres on a Corsa Electric were no more noisy than the ridiculous Michelin Primacy 4 that gets put on EV,s.

I am running Maxxis Premitra AP3 on my Mini Electric, i had on Vredstein Quatrac Pro All Seasons first instead of the near smooth Goodyear Eagle F1 it came with and the All season / all weather tyres are no noisier.  Also no reduction in range with the EV so there should be no adverse affect on fuel efficiency with a ICE vehicle.

PS

As to Summer or Summer in Scotland, well this July is Summer, and there can be plenty parts that are just wet, Spring, Summer, Autumn or Winter and sometimes hot, but even in the best driving roads in scorchio weather, tar melting is anyone really wearing out All Season / All Weathers or Snow / Winter tyres.

What are they doing, wheel spinning or running low tyre pressures or a mis-aligned suspension / steering car?

 

 

Edited 24 July, 20241 yr by Ootohere

35 minutes ago, Ootohere said:

Sorry Double posted

 

Edited 24 July, 20241 yr by Ootohere

Riken. Are they made in Serbia? 

 

Total crap tire, good only for snow.

 

@nidza Made in Serbia, company owned by Michelin as are Tigar.  Have you had any on your cars?

 

But i had them on through the Summer of 2023 and they were great after wrecking 2 Michelin Alpin 6 hitting potholes, and good in the sun and in the rain.

As have been TIGAR tyres as i have used in the past and kept the Snow tyres on.

That is all that i need from a tyre, handles and stop well and gives grip and traction. The great driving roads in Scotland are max 60 mph anyway, and if faster driving the corners are still about that as a max. 

Edited 24 July, 20241 yr by Ootohere

1 hour ago, Ootohere said:

@SLeeperking For decades i have used 'Snow' tyres, All Terrain Tyres, M+S Tyres in Tayside and sometimes all year on some vehicles.

For the past years All Seasons have done me well around Scotland in all weathers even where the Snow Gates have been closed and i have been within them at Glenshee, the Lecht etc.

Even back in 2009 & 2010 All Seasons were sufficient in the Angus Glens, Glendoll, GlenIsla etc.

Tyres like Michelin Alpin 6 or Riken Snow tyres on a Corsa Electric were no more noisy than the ridiculous Michelin Primacy 4 that gets put on EV,s.

I am running Maxxis Premitra AP3 on my Mini Electric, i had on Vredstein Quatrac Pro All Seasons first instead of the near smooth Goodyear Eagle F1 it came with and the All season / all weather tyres are no noisier.  Also no reduction in range with the EV so there should be no adverse affect on fuel efficiency with a ICE vehicle.

PS

As to Summer or Summer in Scotland, well this July is Summer, and there can be plenty parts that are just wet, Spring, Summer, Autumn or Winter and sometimes hot, but even in the best driving roads in scorchio weather, tar melting is anyone really wearing out All Season / All Weathers or Snow / Winter tyres.

What are they doing, wheel spinning or running low tyre pressures or a mis-aligned suspension / steering car?

 

 

I watched a video summer tyres vs winter tyres in snow and all season vs winter tyres in snow. 

 

The all season tyres performed the same as summer tyres in the the snow it was un driveable . Winter tyres did good in snow.

 

Maybe it was the manufacturer of tyre I had it was off an audi. The winter tyres were pretty loud but the grip was amazing in but when it snowed and rarely does the tractors were out cleaning it. I found it a waste of time. I'd avoid driving in the snow even if I had winter tyres lol. My mpg went down too a bit but that might of been the winter fuel who knows bro 

 

Summer tyres on snow is bad when it settles. 

I have primary 4 too and there noisier 

Ye get winter tyres be safe I'm probs stupid 

 

I'm on the motorway alot 

I only used winter tyres once a few yrs ago and didn't snow 

 

And did u drive in the that in ur pictures 

 

Im just using common logic more grip on roads winter tyres is less mpg 

It felt like my winter tyres were sticking to the road 

@SLeeperking  You keep saying 'Winter Tyres' so were there Snow Tyres? What kind?

Back 30 years or more back we got Sterling Winter Remoulds from a tyre place in Douglas, then Vredstein Winter tyres became available and every car i had got those until i started getting lowner Winter or All Season tyres that Michelin Staff (& Family & Friends) got to use and then have to return. 

 

Plenty Winter or All Season tyre threads in the Tyre Section of Briskoda. 

That has peoples experiences of all kinds.  

 

Tyres IME are usually buldged or torn by potholes or iron works before ever worn out, and never torn to bit in summer weather even if winter tyres.

(There is a couple of threads on here where some really cheap winter tyres have been losing treads, old tyres.)

 

If tyres perform in good and bad weather on the A93 & A939 then that is all i need and many OEM tyres can be pretty crap when it is wet, or cold and wet, or even hot and wet.

 

 

Edited 24 July, 20241 yr by Ootohere

1 hour ago, Ootohere said:

@SLeeperking  You keep saying 'Winter Tyres' so were there Snow Tyres? What kind?

Back 30 years or more back we got Sterling Winter Remoulds from a tyre place in Douglas, then Vredstein Winter tyres became available and every car i had got those until i started getting lowner Winter or All Season tyres that Michelin Staff (& Family & Friends) got to use and then have to return. 

 

Plenty Winter or All Season tyre threads in the Tyre Section of Briskoda. 

That has peoples experiences of all kinds.  

 

Tyres IME are usually buldged or torn by potholes or iron works before ever worn out, and never torn to bit in summer weather even if winter tyres.

(There is a couple of threads on here where some really cheap winter tyres have been losing treads, old tyres.)

 

If tyres perform in good and bad weather on the A93 & A939 then that is all i need and many OEM tyres can be pretty crap when it is wet, or cold and wet, or even hot and wet.

 

 

No idea it was probably winter tyres I thought they the same as snow tyres. 

 I don't remember the kind it was 7yrs ago but they were premium 

 

https://www.michelin.co.uk/auto/advice/winter-tyres-guide/what-s-a-winter-tyre says theres no real difference. 

Mine were louder on motorway no big deal obviously some winter tyres r quiet. 

 

 

I see there they have changed from calling their All Season CrossClimates to Winter tyres.  

They had them as Summer Tyre with a Winter Classification. 

 

The Alpin 6 were great, but i wrecked the sidewalls.

The Cross Climate SUV on my Shogun were actually sh!te on snow.

I have had CrossClimates, CrossClimate +, and CrossClimate SYV,s in the last 6 years on cars of my own and driven with CrossClimate 2,s. 

 

I had a pair of Alpin 6 that got replaced that had tears and bulges but they had done over 30,000 miles in 2 years.

They come with plenty tread new and had virtually no wear. 

 

 

Maxxis AP3 to Left & Vredstein Quatrac Pro to the right.

Edited 24 July, 20241 yr by Ootohere

7 hours ago, Ootohere said:

I see there they have changed from calling their All Season CrossClimates to Winter tyres.  

They had them as Summer Tyre with a Winter Classification. 

 

The Alpin 6 were great, but i wrecked the sidewalls.

The Cross Climate SUV on my Shogun were actually sh!te on snow.

I have had CrossClimates, CrossClimate +, and CrossClimate SYV,s in the last 6 years on cars of my own and driven with CrossClimate 2,s. 

 

I had a pair of Alpin 6 that got replaced that had tears and bulges but they had done over 30,000 miles in 2 years.

They come with plenty tread new and had virtually no wear. 

 

 

Maxxis AP3 to Left & Vredstein Quatrac Pro to the right.

Did u scrape something on the side wall in ur pic? The piece missing 

Yes and i have on various tyres be me driving or someone else, steel works poking up on roads as drains brake up or road works have big steel plates across roads.

not uncommon that chunks do get torn out of tyres with rim protection with low profile tyres on smaller rims like 17". 

 

On 24/07/2024 at 11:35, Ootohere said:

@nidza Made in Serbia, company owned by Michelin as are Tigar.  Have you had any on your cars?

 

 

 

Yes of course, I am from Serbia, all of us had Tigar when it was 15-20% of price of Continental or Michelin in same dimension, but now this is not the case anymore at all. 

Hi Bikerjon

I have had my 1.0 tsi for 6 months. It has done  11k km and all I can say is " at least it's not just me !" but the good news is there's a fix. It also came with goodyear efficient grip 205 55 R17 91v  and while they wear well, grip well etc they make the most annoying hollow, ringing, howling, whining, humming  noise when the outside temperature is above about 15 deg C. The annoying thing is you can only hear it from the driver's seat.  I mentioned this to the dealer ( Burns, Co Sligo) and  they dismissed it as if I was some sort of an idiot. Their dealer principal said he'd check with Skoda Ireland but never phoned me back (needless to say I will never return to them for servicing - Keanes in Roscommon albeit a VW dealer are also authorised for Skoda work so they will be getting my business from now on)

Anyway I did my research and to cut a long story short I have replaced the front tyres with Pirelli Cinturato P7 C2. Not cheap but they did the job The change was immediate. Humming gone completely. The Goodyears that came off are in my shed and will be going on the back again when those ones  are worn which I estimate will be at the same time as the fronts  - I wouldn't normally mix brands but it would be a shame to waste them as there's 6mm  tread left. Apparently factory tyres aren't the same as the ones you get from your tyre fitters. They are made to fit precise manufacturers spec and with VW group that's emissions every time so the compound is slightly different. 

Well that was my fix. Other than that it's a great car ! Good luck

Mine has Pirelli P7 and I still find there's roast noise.

Just had my 2 Pirelli P7 fronts replaced yesterday. Only got 12.5k miles out of them. Shortest lasting I've ever had but they did grip well.

 

Now had Michelin Primacy 4s fitted. Not noticed any sound difference yet but I swear the front is more bouncy

they need to be the P7 C2. Pirelli, after having poor reviews on the original P7 upped their game in the last year or so. The C2 has had excellent test reviews, particularly from German test centres. Time will tell as per wear on mine (manufactured dec 2023) but the headache has stopped for now !

34 minutes ago, fredcat said:

they need to be the P7 C2. Pirelli, after having poor reviews on the original P7 upped their game in the last year or so. The C2 has had excellent test reviews, particularly from German test centres. Time will tell as per wear on mine (manufactured dec 2023) but the headache has stopped for now !

Are they the all season ones? I see they are better than the cross climate Michelin in a lot of tests.

23 hours ago, Blue8793841 said:

Are they the all season ones? I see they are better than the cross climate Michelin in a lot of tests.

No just standard summer 205 55 r17 91v . Still 150 euros each. I didn't want to get 95v or XL because that engine weighs less than 70kg and I noticed after 9k kms the front and rear Goodyears had worn evenly (about 1mm). Anyone who has a 1.0 tsi will agree that engine noise is pretty non existent once moving so now I find the tyre noise is pretty similar to the B8 passat I traded in.  I think certain tyres have noise profile characteristics that just dont work with the Octavia and the Goodyears were driving me nuts so great result so far

Alright I currently have the conti eco contact 6 on front and can't say the noise is bad. Original Dunlop's on the back could do with changing as they have done 52000 miles.

I drove one today and was shocked by the noise, vibration and harshness compared to my MK3.  Not to mention the sloppy gear change..maybe the car has just been abused in that case. Seems to have a different gearbox to the MK3.

Edited 7 August, 20241 yr by Blue8793841

On 04/08/2024 at 21:41, Novascape said:

Just had my 2 Pirelli P7 fronts replaced yesterday. Only got 12.5k miles out of them. Shortest lasting I've ever had but they did grip well.

 

Now had Michelin Primacy 4s fitted. Not noticed any sound difference yet but I swear the front is more bouncy

My P7 have done nearly 18k miles and still have plenty life left in them. It's your driving style, mate.

On 10/07/2024 at 00:09, shempy said:

I put some soundproofing in boot and under back seat.That and some P Zero Pirellis made a big difference.

 

is it something that sticks there ore is there an original sort of carpet for octavias ?

Yeah, bought in a roll and cut to fit. Self adhesive.