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1.4 TSI 150 hp oil quantity

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Hi! Went for the 1st oil change after warranty at a (rather reputable) service outside dealership. Just wanted the ouil change. 
First they only ordered just 4l of 5w30 Mobil1. And were like it’s too low. 
I said that the dealer always ordered 5l and only consumed a bit from the 1l can. 
Mechanic went to speak with somebody and came and added round 250ml. 
But now it seems like the ould is just above the max line - and I only checked with engine just after running so maybe when it cools down it may be more? (My parking spot in not leveled, I will try tomorrow to go park somewhere else and to let the car sit for 2-3 h before checking again)

 

But just wandering why they only ordered 4l of oil - what the manual says? - I’m pretty sure that always the dealer put more than 4l. 
 

I have oil capacity for the 1.4, 150PS as 3.8 litres - which, I believe, includes the oil filter change. 

 

Edited by Warrior193
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Ok so this means now they’ve put too much. They said that the program shows for 1.4 tsi 2014-2017 4l but they added also 250 ml to te at max. I’ll wait till tomorrow to check again but after leaving the service I saw it was just over the max line

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This is how it looks. Should i worry? 

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That will be absolutely fine 

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Thank you for the reply! 

Check the oil correctly. (that is not cold) You can check as you have and then you know there is oil.

 

But do as the Owners manual.

@ Normal operating temperature. So near 90*oC as indicated.

Stopped on the flat and dipped after a few minutes.   That will be 4 or 5 minutes.   Do not run it with too much oil in. 

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Shouldn't a cold engine (stopped for more than 1h) have more oil as more oil drips in the bay? So following this logic, max level with a cold engine should mean less max after running (part of oil is still above, in the motor.)

Maybe I'm wrong, but nevertheless, I will also check as per the manual. I wanted to be sure this is not (a large) overfill so that I could drive the car a bit to check. I left the car near the garage as I had stuff to to and when I got back they were closed and I was left with my unanswered questions....

Thanks for replying

It is not rocket science, just having the correct level / quantity of oil, so do what you want to.

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Where is it usually after a service and when you top up? 

 

Who cares what the logic is.

Do it one way and then when hot the other, hot is the correct level

 

Some engines have oil filters on the top, some below.

Gravity and has the oil going to the sump and the dipstick goes into read the level, cold and after time might well be higher on the dip stick.

 

Only the 1.2 44 kW engines with 2.8 litres are checked cold. 

11 hours ago, SwatKat said:

Shouldn't a cold engine (stopped for more than 1h) have more oil as more oil drips in the bay? So following this logic, max level with a cold engine should mean less max after running (part of oil is still above, in the motor.)

Maybe I'm wrong, but nevertheless, I will also check as per the manual. I wanted to be sure this is not (a large) overfill so that I could drive the car a bit to check. I left the car near the garage as I had stuff to to and when I got back they were closed and I was left with my unanswered questions....

Thanks for replying

A useful method is to be familiar with oil levels under both states (hot and cold) - then you will be able to check for correct level at any time.

Level immediately after a run will be a little lower than if engine is allowed to stand and circulated oil has drained back to sump.

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I've almost never checked the oil. Oanec maybe 1,5 years, as I drive only on highway and I am on flexible service plan. For example, this summer, after 25k after the last oil change I checked the dip and it was just above 2/3. 

Now I was lazy and went for the first time to a nearby garage and not the dealer (I was on vacation). I've also asked the dealer and said it's not that much, 1 mm over the max level, so I'd be safe letting it be.

 

I'm not mentioning that I also dis a brake fluid change and this morning I found out that it was filled just at the neck, way more than max. Had to extract couple of syringes to be at max level...

 

Relying solely on engine and tyre sensors and trusting service technicians to get it right is seemingly a common bad habit nowadays - I'm not suggesting it's necessary to carry out a full, military, first/last parade every time you drive a vehicle - but a regular quick check of levels, tyres, etc. is a great idea. 

6 hours ago, SwatKat said:

I've almost never checked the oil. Oanec maybe 1,5 years, as I drive only on highway and I am on flexible service plan. For example, this summer, after 25k after the last oil change I checked the dip and it was just above 2/3. 

Now I was lazy and went for the first time to a nearby garage and not the dealer (I was on vacation). I've also asked the dealer and said it's not that much, 1 mm over the max level, so I'd be safe letting it be.

 

I'm not mentioning that I also dis a brake fluid change and this morning I found out that it was filled just at the neck, way more than max. Had to extract couple of syringes to be at max level...

 

Is over-filled brake fluid a problem on cars?

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I know it may be as the min-max level are there for a reason. Overfilling can lead to pressure spill on a hot day while descending, for example. And puts a higher strain on gaskets/ components cause to the higher pressure

@SwatKat when on a phone as i was i did not see your location, so now i know where you are i know that 25k is 25,000 km so under 16,000 miles. 

 

Re Topping up brake fluid and not actually replacing Brake Fluid if there is a drop in it might well mean overheating brake fluid. or the H20 content overheating, becoming steam. 

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When was the brake fluid last changed before this time? 

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@Ootohere: yes 25k km as I only drive on highways and long journeys in about 1 and a half years. Never had an issue with oil consumption it mainly sits at 2/3 after this period. 
on the brake fluid, I had it changed but they overflowed the can I guess. At least as I recall they fiddled at all wheels I guess to get the air out. 
my problem is that after this they left the excess fluid there and the can was full. 

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