It's a DSG, and occasionally I would like to use the "manual" gearing option and change each gear myself. My problem is that pushing the stick forward equals upshift which is completely backwards and frustrates me every time(it feels super akward). When we need to downshift is when we are slowing down and we will be pushed forward by gravity and vice verca for when we accelerate. This is why the only rational way of deciding the direction the stick should be pushed or pulled should be the same as the direction of gravity. You being pushed back in the seat it will feel natural to pull back on the lever, and vice versa.

 

So, is this something than can be easily done on this car and without any need for any coding or any of that, or am I stuck with the stupid stock option?

I agree that the DSG operation in manual is counter-intuitive - when I was buying my Octavia I considered a DSG but did not like the way VAG have set this up.  

Each to his own, I suppose.   When I built my JZR, which has a sequential gearbox from a Honda motorcycle, I chose to have push forward for up changes, pull back to change down.  It was just a case of where I put the gear lever’s linkage - above or below the pivot.  Possibly not quite as simple with a DSG though…

The gear shifter is actually a complex switch mechanism with switches for both active and inactive positions (as a cross check of each other).

 

In theory you might be able to rewire the manual mode switches to operate the opposite way, you would need to get a wiring diagram and do some thinking and planning.

 

BTW I agree the manual modes work the wrong way, to me push forward should be downchange and pull back should be upchange - so that the inertia of braking and accelerating assist the change instead of resisting it (this is how my previous Toyots Aygo worked).

12 hours ago, Scout-MKIII said:

This is why the only rational way of deciding the direction the stick should be pushed or pulled should be the same as the direction of gravity. You being pushed back in the seat it will feel natural to pull back on the lever, and vice versa.

 

Not gravity unless you are driving up or down a vertical plane.

 

I agree that the orientation of the shift controls on the DSG are counter-intuitive.

Not something that can easily be done and plenty threads asking the same about DSG,s.    I drive a BMW and shifter opposite of VW,s.  Total PITA in my opinion. 

As it seems to be more complex than I would have hoped I will just have to live with it. It would be great if it was simply to flip around a linkage or something, but anyhow. You can't win them all.

I'm not a fan of it either - I rarely drive in manual mode, but that's maybe because the shifter goes the wrong way, and the paddles are so small!

 

There isn't a realistic way of changing the shift direction, unfortunately. 

 

Welcome to VWAG.

I was massively against an auto box, joking I wasn't old enough for one yet.

Thinking I'd usually have it in manual, to my surprise I took to the auto straight away.

The very odd occasion I think about going manual, the way it overrides and changes gear anyway when I forget I've gone manual, I don't really bother and just leave it in D

On 22/11/2024 at 16:33, BT_11vRS said:

I was massively against an auto box, joking I wasn't old enough for one yet.

Thinking I'd usually have it in manual, to my surprise I took to the auto straight away.

The very odd occasion I think about going manual, the way it overrides and changes gear anyway when I forget I've gone manual, I don't really bother and just leave it in D

 

I'm 21 and decided from the very start I had to have a DSG box, whether I went vRS, Cupra or GTI. Specifically the 7-speed DQ381. It's absolutely incredible, and is sharp and engaging when I want it to be, but yet smooth and effortless when I don't.

 

A manual is more fun 1 out of 100 times - but the other 99 times I'm stuck in traffic looking at CarPlay and it's a no brainer. If I could get a second 'drivers' car it would be manual, of course, but for a daily in the real world, a DCT is brilliant.

 

I'd never driven an auto full stop until I got in the Octavia, and it changed everything. I've got a few gripes with it (holding second at 3k rpm doing 18mph on a freezing cold start, being a bit jerky when trying to crawl in traffic, etc) but it's just fantastic. Shortly afterwards, my parents switched both their cars over to DSG models. 

27 minutes ago, Occy245 said:

 

I'm 21 and decided from the very start I had to have a DSG box, whether I went vRS, Cupra or GTI. Specifically the 7-speed DQ381. It's absolutely incredible, and is sharp and engaging when I want it to be, but yet smooth and effortless when I don't.

 

A manual is more fun 1 out of 100 times - but the other 99 times I'm stuck in traffic looking at CarPlay and it's a no brainer. If I could get a second 'drivers' car it would be manual, of course, but for a daily in the real world, a DCT is brilliant.

 

I'd never driven an auto full stop until I got in the Octavia, and it changed everything. I've got a few gripes with it (holding second at 3k rpm doing 18mph on a freezing cold start, being a bit jerky when trying to crawl in traffic, etc) but it's just fantastic. Shortly afterwards, my parents switched both their cars over to DSG models. 

Are you running it in sports mode?  Your box is different from mine, but mine only holds the gears if in sports mode.  In D or ECO it's very quick to change up.

Nope - it only does it on a cold start as I trundle down my road/out of a car park/etc. 

 

The other thing it will do is hold a gear after I've floored it and lifted off - unsure if this is because it thinks I want to go some more, or if its the overrun GPF regen kicking in.

 

I will say though, that the DQ200 in my mum's 1.0 Ibiza FR rocks... meanwhile driving the 2024 DQ200-equipped courtesy cars (Leon, Arona, Karoq) I've had recently, I'd rather walk.