Hello everyone.

 

I was on the mission of installing a new radio in my car.

I unplagged the original and plugged the new Aliexpress cheap unit. It looked so cheap that decided to come back to OEM for now.

But here comes the problem, for some reason in the process, when I uninstalled and isntalled the chinese unit it stop working, thinking that was the radio.

I brought the Swing radio back and same, nothing working, nor screen or button lighting.

 

I did a OBDeleven scan and it thows 01304 error.

 

I cheked the fuses voltage and they are all good, also both headunit fuses.

I disconnected the battery for almost 2 hours nothing happend either.

 

What else can I do?

 

Is there a way to reboot the gateway? maybe is in a sort of protection mode now.

 

Thanks in advance

 

 

I add some more information. 

As you can see control unit for the radio is not being detected

 

This is the gateway information

 

Voltage in all relevant pins where electricity should be. at this point not sure where should have and not, but seems to come to one point in the first picture

 

 

 

 

OBDeleven faults text:

 

Radio:

 

OBDeleven vehicle history log
Date: 2025-01-31 15:49:34

    VIN: TMBJM65J8F3015544
    Car: Skoda 
    Year: 
    Body type: Estate
    Engine: CBZA  kW ( hp) l
    Mileage: 191770 km

---------------------------------------------------------------
19 Gateway
        System description: GW-K-CAN TP20
        Software number: 6N0909901
        Software version: 0725
        Hardware number: 7H0937090
        Hardware version: H74
        
        Faults:
                01304 - Radio
                static
                    priority -  2 
                frequencyCounter -  1 
                drivingCycle - 127 
                km-Mileage - 191776 km

 

 

 

 

By default the bluetooth phone gets error since its trying to connect to it:

 

OBDeleven vehicle history log
Date: 2025-01-31 15:52:12

    VIN: TMBJM65J8F3015544
    Car: Skoda 
    Year: 
    Body type: Estate
    Engine: CBZA  kW ( hp) l
    Mileage: 191770 km

---------------------------------------------------------------
77 Telephone
        System description: TELEFON
        Software number: 7P6035730N
        Software version: 4217
        Hardware number: 7P6035730N
        Hardware version: H16
        
        Faults:
                B104E13 - Right audio channel for speech/telephone
            Open circuit
                Intermittent
                    Priority - 4 
                Malfunction frequency counter - 1 
                km-Mileage - 191744 
                Unlearning counter - 167 
                date - 2121-12-11 01:54:50 
                
                B104F13 - Left audio channel for speech/telephone
            Open circuit
                Intermittent
                    Priority - 4 
                Malfunction frequency counter - 1 
                km-Mileage - 191744 
                Unlearning counter - 167 
                date - 2121-12-11 01:54:50 
                
                U106600 - Radio
            No Communication
                static
                    Priority - 6 
                Malfunction frequency counter - 1 
                km-Mileage - 191754 
                Unlearning counter - 127 
                date - 2121-12-11 00:38:33 

 

Just quick thoughts whilst you wait for someone that actually knows what they are talking about rather than me.

 

Did you check all the pins and sockets were straight and clean.

 

Connectors connected correctly.

 

Can you recoded the original radio back to its original code (does the OBDEleven or you take a back-up of all settings before removing the original radio, I know VCDS has something that gets you to this.  11.17v at the pin connections is that a good voltage at that point, did you have the engine running when testing if both radios work.  

 

Serial number is missing can you enter that.  If that doesn't work perhaps re-enter serial number, hardware and software and hardware numbers and versions as a full set for entry.  Note I do not know the system and have no idea if this would work or make things worse just the type of things I would try when nothing else is working with computers.

 

I guess this might be something minor and someone will know the resolve, if not here you could try on the OBDEleven forum.

 

Good luck, let us know how you get on.

 

17 hours ago, nta16 said:

Just quick thoughts whilst you wait for someone that actually knows what they are talking about rather than me.

 

Did you check all the pins and sockets were straight and clean.

 

Connectors connected correctly.

 

Can you recoded the original radio back to its original code (does the OBDEleven or you take a back-up of all settings before removing the original radio, I know VCDS has something that gets you to this.  11.17v at the pin connections is that a good voltage at that point, did you have the engine running when testing if both radios work.  

 

Serial number is missing can you enter that.  If that doesn't work perhaps re-enter serial number, hardware and software and hardware numbers and versions as a full set for entry.  Note I do not know the system and have no idea if this would work or make things worse just the type of things I would try when nothing else is working with computers.

 

I guess this might be something minor and someone will know the resolve, if not here you could try on the OBDEleven forum.

 

Good luck, let us know how you get on.

 

Hi! I will try to answer one by one your suggestions:

 

Did you check all the pins and sockets were straight and clean.

All pins were working and they were unplugged for a few minutes maximum. I tested in to headunits, the OEM Swing, and the chinese one. same results. they are a brick. I also checked all fuses and there´s electricity through all of them.

 

Connectors connected correctly.

I am trying to connect the Swing radio as it was originally, no pins or connectors changed

 

Can you recoded the original radio back to its original code (does the OBDEleven or you take a back-up of all settings before removing the original radio, I know VCDS has something that gets you to this.  11.17v at the pin connections is that a good voltage at that point, did you have the engine running when testing if both radios work.  

To be fair I haven´t done anything before unplagginf the Swing radio. I thought it was going to be an easy process, plug&play literally. Actually, when I plugged the chinese radio for the first time it worked, and the reason of unplugging it was that the sound outcome was poor with some redidual noise on the back. that, including some minor aesthtical things made me take it away and go back to OEM. I guess this is where something happened.

 

Serial number is missing can you enter that.  If that doesn't work perhaps re-enter serial number, hardware and software and hardware numbers and versions as a full set for entry.  Note I do not know the system and have no idea if this would work or make things worse just the type of things I would try when nothing else is working with computers.

Not sure what you mean, not a pro in coding. learning on my way now

 

I guess this might be something minor and someone will know the resolve, if not here you could try on the OBDEleven forum.

Yes, and it is driving me crazy.

 

I thought I was doing a real upgrade in the car, and now I did a downgrade.

 

I had the chance to find my old VCDS from a box and did some logs, that will post in the next message

 

As a forum fan I wish we find the solution and post it here as well, I hate when people open questions and there is no solution placed for others

 

Edited 1 February, 20251 yr by Santisilver

VCDS logs:

 

I marked in red the errors

 

Chassis Type: 5J-SK25 (6N0)
Scan: 01 03 04 08 09 10 15 17 19 25 44 56 61 77

VIN: TMBJM65J8F3015544   

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: Malfunction 0010
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J623-CBZA)       Labels:. 03F-906-070-CBZ.clb
   Part No SW: 03F 906 070 HP    HW: 03F 907 309 AL
   Component: SIMOS10.23AH10 5470  
   Revision: --H10---    Serial number:               
   Coding: 001100B6202401080000
   Shop #: WSC 13765 031 00007
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM12TFS02103F906070HP 004007
   ROD: N/A
   VCID: 77FD5DDDCECD43F2E4-8022

No ASAM data for: "EV_ECM12TFS02103F906070HP" (SK25) 
No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 6R0-907-37x-ESP90.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 BJ    HW: 6R0 907 379 AS
   Component: ESP9.0i front H03 0001  
   Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 41DC287D212400C58219146D845500500809
   Shop #: WSC 13765 031 00007
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCH 003020
   ROD: N/A
   VCID: 071D2D1DBE2D337294-8052

No ASAM data for: "EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCH" (SK25) 
No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 04: Steering Angle (G085)       Labels: 6R0-959-654.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 959 654     HW: 6R0 959 654 
   Component: LENKW.SENSOR  H07 0070  
   Serial number: 06061404651384
   Coding: 01
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_LWSKLOVW25X 005001
   ROD: N/A
   VCID: 7EF348F9E1F772BAA7-802A

No ASAM data for: "EV_LWSKLOVW25X" (SK25) 
No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 6Q0-907-044.lbl
   Part No SW: 5J0 907 044 D    HW: 5J0 907 044 D
   Component: Climatronic   H09 0103  
   Revision: K0000000    
   VCID: 2B55B1AD4A05371250-807E

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 7H0 937 090 D    HW: 7H0 937 090 
   Component: BCM PQ25 Max4 H74 0725  
   Revision: B9074001    Serial number: 0671 141143837
   Coding: 62980B3808010000003801316E2B09C10FC0620F7E8C0440000010000000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 61029
   VCID: 2F6DA5BD7E1D4B327C-807A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 AJ    HW: 6R0 959 801 AJ  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  006 5210 
   Serial number: 12102557140527070902
   Coding: 420000

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 AQ    HW: 6R0 959 802 AQ  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  006 5210 
   Serial number: 12102560140527104408
   Coding: 420000

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5E0 919 719 C    HW: 5E0 919 719 C  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-PR6  H05 0130 
   Serial number: 000000000D0129130421
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 K    HW: 6R0 959 811 K
   Component: J388__TSG_HL  006 5210 
   Serial number: 13202567140523200701
   Coding: 420000

   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 K    HW: 6R0 959 812 K
   Component: J389__TSG_HR  006 5210 
   Serial number: 13102566140523151156
   Coding: 420000

1 Fault Found:
03302 - Can't Decode, CODE File Not Loaded! 
            008 - Can't Decode, CODE File Not Loaded!
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 127
                    Mileage: 191776 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2057.14.11
                    Time: 06:57:09

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:. 5J0-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 5J0 919 475     HW: 5J0 919 475 A
   Component: PARKHILFE 4K  H11 0003  
   Revision: --H10---    Serial number: 32901413605640
   Coding: 100002
   Shop #: WSC 13765 790 00007
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SK25XParkiAssis2 S01002
   ROD: N/A
   VCID: 72EB6CC9A5AF26DAD3-8026

No ASAM data for: "EV_SK25XParkiAssis2" (SK35 *) 
No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:. 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 L    HW: 6R0 959 655 L
   Component: VW10AirbagT23 H10 0020  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003GY00BTFXC
   Coding: 003233
   Shop #: WSC 13765 790 00007
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
   ROD: N/A
   VCID: 4B95D12DE2C5171270-801E

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 3495RRB401452JN488PH

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 3505RRB400K52K2071EO

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 3515RRB400G52JN4O8U%

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 3525RRB401452JN4J931

No ASAM data for: "EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250" (SK25) 
No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 5J0 920 841 G    HW: 5J0 920 841 G
   Component: KOMBI         H04 0709  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 110E01
   Shop #: WSC 13765 031 00007
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04723
   ROD: N/A
   VCID: 2E53B8B97117423A77-807A

No ASAM data for: "EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09" (VW36 *) 
No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 7H0 937 090 
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H74 0725  
   Revision: B9074001    
   Coding: 232200
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 61029
   VCID: 70EF66C1A3A314CA25-8024

1 Fault Found:
01304 - Can't Decode, CODE File Not Loaded! 
            004 - Can't Decode, CODE File Not Loaded!
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 127
                    Mileage: 191776 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2057.14.11
                    Time: 05:22:30

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H04 0709  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
   ROD: N/A
   VCID: 6ADB74A98D7FEE1A6B-803E

No ASAM data for: "EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09" (VW36 *) 
No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: None
   Part No: 6R0 423 156 C
   Component: LenkhilfeTRW        V278  
   Coding: 11240
   Shop #: WSC 13765  
   VCID: 306FA6C1F72354CA65-8064

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio
Cannot be reached

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 61: Battery Regul. (J840)       Labels:. 1K0-907-534.clb
   Part No SW: 7H0 907 534     HW: 7H0 937 090 
   Component: Batt.regelung H74 0725  
   Serial number: 0671 141143837
   Coding: 032B7A64
   Shop #: WSC 13765 790 00007
   VCID: 6BD571AD8A85F71210-803E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 915 181 E    HW: 6R0 915 181 E
   Component: J367-BDM  H08 0181 
   Serial number: 61133K01092031213534

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels:. 7P6-035-730.clb
   Part No SW: 7P6 035 730 N    HW: 7P6 035 730 N
   Component: TELEFON       H16 4217  
   Revision: 1B001001    Serial number: 00007666320328
   Coding: 0200000000010110
   Shop #: WSC 13765 031 00007
   ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVNA 002720
   ROD: N/A
   VCID: 3D718FF5AC71A9A2FE-8068

No ASAM data for: "EV_UHVNA" (VW36 *) 
3 Faults Found:
9457427 - Can't Decode, CODE File Not Loaded! 
          - 13 [008]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 167
                    Mileage: 191776 km
                    Date: 2121.14.11
                    Time: 05:20:43

9457171 - Can't Decode, CODE File Not Loaded! 
          - 13 [008]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 167
                    Mileage: 191776 km
                    Date: 2121.14.11
                    Time: 05:20:43

0022 - Can't Decode, CODE File Not Loaded! 
          - 16 [009]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 127
                    Mileage: 191776 km
                    Date: 2121.14.11
                    Time: 05:18:56

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 03:06)--------------------------

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                Address 19: CAN Gateway       Labels: None
Control Module Part Number: 6N0 909 901     HW: 7H0 937 090 
  Component and/or Version: GW-K-CAN TP20 H74 0725
           Software Coding: 232200
            Work Shop Code: WSC 12345 123 61029
                      VCID: 70EF66C1A3A314CA25-8024
1 Fault Found:

01304 - Can't Decode, CODE File Not Loaded! 
            004 - Can't Decode, CODE File Not Loaded!
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 127
                    Mileage: 191776 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2057.14.11
                    Time: 05:22:30

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--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                Address 19: CAN Gateway       Labels: None
Control Module Part Number: 6N0 909 901     HW: 7H0 937 090 
  Component and/or Version: GW-K-CAN TP20 H74 0725
           Software Coding: 232200
            Work Shop Code: WSC 12345 123 61029
                      VCID: 70EF66C1A3A314CA25-8024
1 Fault Found:

01304 - Can't Decode, CODE File Not Loaded! 
            004 - Can't Decode, CODE File Not Loaded!
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 127
                    Mileage: 191776 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2057.14.11
                    Time: 05:22:30

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                Address 19: CAN Gateway       Labels: None
Control Module Part Number: 6N0 909 901     HW: 7H0 937 090 
  Component and/or Version: GW-K-CAN TP20 H74 0725
           Software Coding: 232200
            Work Shop Code: WSC 12345 123 61029
                      VCID: 70EF66C1A3A314CA25-8024
1 Fault Found:

01304 - Can't Decode, CODE File Not Loaded! 
            004 - Can't Decode, CODE File Not Loaded!
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 127
                    Mileage: 191776 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2057.14.11
                    Time: 05:22:30

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Address 19: DTCs cleared
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Address 19,6N0 909 901 ,recoded (Installation List),from,7D031F001000,to,7D031E001000,,
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Address 19: DTCs cleared
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                Address 77: Telephone
Control Module Part Number: 7P6 035 730 N
  Component and/or Version: TELEFON       H16 4217
           Software Coding: 0200000000010110
            Work Shop Code: WSC 13765
                      VCID: 3D718FF5AC71A9A2FE-8068

Advanced Identification/FAZIT
     Serial number: 00007666320328
     Identification: SJA-001
     Revision: 1B001001
     Date: 04.06.14
     Manufacturer number: 0001
     Test stand number: 0070
Flash Status
     Programming Attempts(application): 0/0
     Successful Attempts(application): 0/0
     Programming Attempts(data): 1
     Successful Attempts(data): 1
     Programming Status: 00000000
     Flash Date: 00.01.01
     Flash Tool Code(data): 00000 000 00000
Software
     BAP: 01.04.01
     UDS: 01.02.14
     Diag: 01.02.05
     CAN: 04.02.03
     TP 2.0: 01.02.0E
     ISO15765: 01.02.15
     OSEK-OS: 02.02.00
     OSEK Net: 03.07.03
     OSEK-Com: 02.02.00
Misc.
     Hardware number: 7P6 035 730 N
     Workshop System Name: J412
     Equipment/PR Code: 0000000000000000
     Dataset Number: 7P6035730N 
     Dataset Version: 0001
     End of Line Equipment Level: ------------------
     ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVNA
     ASAM Dataset Revision: 002720
VCDS Info:
       VCID: 3D718FF5AC71A9A2FE-8068
       Labels: 7P6-035-730.clb
       ROD: ERROR - EV_UHVNA 002720 (VW36 *)

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                Address 77: Telephone
Control Module Part Number: 7P6 035 730 N
  Component and/or Version: TELEFON       H16 4217
           Software Coding: 0200000000010110
            Work Shop Code: WSC 13765
                      VCID: 3D718FF5AC71A9A2FE-8068

Advanced Identification/FAZIT
     Serial number: 00007666320328
     Identification: SJA-001
     Revision: 1B001001
     Date: 04.06.14
     Manufacturer number: 0001
     Test stand number: 0070
Flash Status
     Programming Attempts(application): 0/0
     Successful Attempts(application): 0/0
     Programming Attempts(data): 1
     Successful Attempts(data): 1
     Programming Status: 00000000
     Flash Date: 00.01.01
     Flash Tool Code(data): 00000 000 00000
Software
     BAP: 01.04.01
     UDS: 01.02.14
     Diag: 01.02.05
     CAN: 04.02.03
     TP 2.0: 01.02.0E
     ISO15765: 01.02.15
     OSEK-OS: 02.02.00
     OSEK Net: 03.07.03
     OSEK-Com: 02.02.00
Misc.
     Hardware number: 7P6 035 730 N
     Workshop System Name: J412
     Equipment/PR Code: 0000000000000000
     Dataset Number: 7P6035730N 
     Dataset Version: 0001
     End of Line Equipment Level: ------------------
     ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVNA
     ASAM Dataset Revision: 002720
VCDS Info:
       VCID: 3D718FF5AC71A9A2FE-8068
       Labels: 7P6-035-730.clb
       ROD: ERROR - EV_UHVNA 002720 (VW36 *)

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                Address 77: Telephone
Control Module Part Number: 7P6 035 730 N
  Component and/or Version: TELEFON       H16 4217
           Software Coding: 0200000000010110
            Work Shop Code: WSC 13765
                      VCID: 3D718FF5AC71A9A2FE-8068

Advanced Identification/FAZIT
     Serial number: 00007666320328
     Identification: SJA-001
     Revision: 1B001001
     Date: 04.06.14
     Manufacturer number: 0001
     Test stand number: 0070
Flash Status
     Programming Attempts(application): 0/0
     Successful Attempts(application): 0/0
     Programming Attempts(data): 1
     Successful Attempts(data): 1
     Programming Status: 00000000
     Flash Date: 00.01.01
     Flash Tool Code(data): 00000 000 00000
Software
     BAP: 01.04.01
     UDS: 01.02.14
     Diag: 01.02.05
     CAN: 04.02.03
     TP 2.0: 01.02.0E
     ISO15765: 01.02.15
     OSEK-OS: 02.02.00
     OSEK Net: 03.07.03
     OSEK-Com: 02.02.00
Misc.
     Hardware number: 7P6 035 730 N
     Workshop System Name: J412
     Equipment/PR Code: 0000000000000000
     Dataset Number: 7P6035730N 
     Dataset Version: 0001
     End of Line Equipment Level: ------------------
     ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVNA
     ASAM Dataset Revision: 002720
VCDS Info:
       VCID: 3D718FF5AC71A9A2FE-8068
       Labels: 7P6-035-730.clb
       ROD: ERROR - EV_UHVNA 002720 (VW36 *)

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Address 19,6N0 909 901 ,recoded (Installation List),from,7D031E001000,to,7D031F001000,,
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Chassis Type: 5J-SK25 (6N0)
Scan: 01 03 04 08 09 10 15 17 19 25 44 56 61 77 0B

VIN: TMBJM65J8F3015544   

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: Malfunction 0010
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J623-CBZA)       Labels:. 03F-906-070-CBZ.clb
   Part No SW: 03F 906 070 HP    HW: 03F 907 309 AL
   Component: SIMOS10.23AH10 5470  
   Revision: --H10---    Serial number:               
   Coding: 001100B6202401080000
   Shop #: WSC 13765 031 00007
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM12TFS02103F906070HP 004007
   ROD: N/A
   VCID: 77FD5DDDCECD43F2E4-8022

No ASAM data for: "EV_ECM12TFS02103F906070HP" (SK25) 
No fault code found.
Readiness: 0110 0101

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 6R0-907-37x-ESP90.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 BJ    HW: 6R0 907 379 AS
   Component: ESP9.0i front H03 0001  
   Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 41DC287D212400C58219146D845500500809
   Shop #: WSC 13765 031 00007
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCH 003020
   ROD: N/A
   VCID: 071D2D1DBE2D337294-8052

No ASAM data for: "EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCH" (SK25) 
No fault code found.

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Address 04: Steering Angle (G085)       Labels: 6R0-959-654.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 959 654     HW: 6R0 959 654 
   Component: LENKW.SENSOR  H07 0070  
   Serial number: 06061404651384
   Coding: 01
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_LWSKLOVW25X 005001
   ROD: N/A
   VCID: 7EF348F9E1F772BAA7-802A

No ASAM data for: "EV_LWSKLOVW25X" (SK25) 
No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 6Q0-907-044.lbl
   Part No SW: 5J0 907 044 D    HW: 5J0 907 044 D
   Component: Climatronic   H09 0103  
   Revision: K0000000    
   VCID: 2B55B1AD4A05371250-807E

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 7H0 937 090 D    HW: 7H0 937 090 
   Component: BCM PQ25 Max4 H74 0725  
   Revision: B9074001    Serial number: 0671 141143837
   Coding: 62980B3808010000003801316E2B09C10FC0620F7E8C0440000010000000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 61029
   VCID: 2F6DA5BD7E1D4B327C-807A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 AJ    HW: 6R0 959 801 AJ  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  006 5210 
   Serial number: 12102557140527070902
   Coding: 420000

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 AQ    HW: 6R0 959 802 AQ  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  006 5210 
   Serial number: 12102560140527104408
   Coding: 420000

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5E0 919 719 C    HW: 5E0 919 719 C  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-PR6  H05 0130 
   Serial number: 000000000D0129130421
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 K    HW: 6R0 959 811 K
   Component: J388__TSG_HL  006 5210 
   Serial number: 13202567140523200701
   Coding: 420000

   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 K    HW: 6R0 959 812 K
   Component: J389__TSG_HR  006 5210 
   Serial number: 13102566140523151156
   Coding: 420000

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:. 5J0-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 5J0 919 475     HW: 5J0 919 475 A
   Component: PARKHILFE 4K  H11 0003  
   Revision: --H10---    Serial number: 32901413605640
   Coding: 100002
   Shop #: WSC 13765 790 00007
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SK25XParkiAssis2 S01002
   ROD: N/A
   VCID: 72EB6CC9A5AF26DAD3-8026

No ASAM data for: "EV_SK25XParkiAssis2" (SK35 *) 
No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:. 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 L    HW: 6R0 959 655 L
   Component: VW10AirbagT23 H10 0020  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003GY00BTFXC
   Coding: 003233
   Shop #: WSC 13765 790 00007
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
   ROD: N/A
   VCID: 4B95D12DE2C5171270-801E

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 3495RRB401452JN488PH

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 3505RRB400K52K2071EO

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 3515RRB400G52JN4O8U%

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 3525RRB401452JN4J931

No ASAM data for: "EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250" (SK25) 
No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 5J0 920 841 G    HW: 5J0 920 841 G
   Component: KOMBI         H04 0709  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 110E01
   Shop #: WSC 13765 031 00007
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04723
   ROD: N/A
   VCID: 2E53B8B97117423A77-807A

No ASAM data for: "EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09" (VW36 *) 
No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 7H0 937 090 
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H74 0725  
   Revision: B9074001    
   Coding: 232200
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 61029
   VCID: 70EF66C1A3A314CA25-8024

1 Fault Found:
01304 - Can't Decode, CODE File Not Loaded! 
            004 - Can't Decode, CODE File Not Loaded!
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 127
                    Mileage: 191776 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2057.14.12
                    Time: 03:37:10

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H04 0709  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
   ROD: N/A
   VCID: 6ADB74A98D7FEE1A6B-803E

No ASAM data for: "EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09" (VW36 *) 
No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: None
   Part No: 6R0 423 156 C
   Component: LenkhilfeTRW        V278  
   Coding: 11240
   Shop #: WSC 13765  
   VCID: 306FA6C1F72354CA65-8064

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio
Cannot be reached

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 61: Battery Regul. (J840)       Labels:. 1K0-907-534.clb
   Part No SW: 7H0 907 534     HW: 7H0 937 090 
   Component: Batt.regelung H74 0725  
   Serial number: 0671 141143837
   Coding: 032B7A64
   Shop #: WSC 13765 790 00007
   VCID: 6BD571AD8A85F71210-803E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 915 181 E    HW: 6R0 915 181 E
   Component: J367-BDM  H08 0181 
   Serial number: 61133K01092031213534

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels:. 7P6-035-730.clb
   Part No SW: 7P6 035 730 N    HW: 7P6 035 730 N
   Component: TELEFON       H16 4217  
   Revision: 1B001001    Serial number: 00007666320328
   Coding: 0200000000010110
   Shop #: WSC 13765 031 00007
   ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVNA 002720
   ROD: N/A
   VCID: 3D718FF5AC71A9A2FE-8068

No ASAM data for: "EV_UHVNA" (VW36 *) 
1 Fault Found:
0022 - Can't Decode, CODE File Not Loaded! 
          - 16 [009]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 127
                    Mileage: 191776 km
                    Date: 2121.14.12
                    Time: 03:37:05

 

Edited 1 February, 20251 yr by Santisilver

39 minutes ago, Santisilver said:

Hi! I will try to answer one by one your suggestions:

And you have thank you.

 

 

41 minutes ago, Santisilver said:

All pins were working and they were unplugged for a few minutes maximum. I tested in to headunits, the OEM Swing, and the chinese one. same results. they are a brick.

I was thinking pins could be bent from just disconnecting and reconnecting perhaps  or if wrong plugs are put into wrong sockets or upside down if either is possible it only take a fraction of a second to bent tiny flimsy pins.  Also of course the connections need to be clean, no corrosion or crud, I know there should not be any but, well just but.

 

 

49 minutes ago, Santisilver said:

take it away and go back to OEM. I guess this is where something happened.

Yes that is what I was thinking with reinputting the data of the original unit, I know it is showing on the OBDEleven but I don't trust computer programs fully from decades of having computer in my life and experience of computer programs and computer programmers indirectly.  Always remember computer are not clever or intelligent they are just dumb programs, keep things simple for them even if they make things vastly unnecessarily complicated for you.

 

 

55 minutes ago, Santisilver said:

Not sure what you mean, not a pro in coding. learning on my way now

I am about as far away from any sort of pro in coding or anything else, I just meant put the serial number of the Swing unit in to the space without it, I guess the serial number it is on a label on the Swing unit, the description serial number is a bit of a misnomer as the "number" can include letters too.  And then to re-enter the numbers for hardware and software that are already show by OBDEleven.

 

 

1 hour ago, Santisilver said:

As a forum fan I wish we find the solution and post it here as well, I hate when people open questions and there is no solution placed for others

Thank you, I too very much like for posters to report back, of of courtesy and to give the resolve or information for others.

 

 

1 hour ago, Santisilver said:

I had the chance to find my old VCDS from a box and did some logs, that will post in the next message

I did not see that post until I had already started this post so will have a quick look at that after a much needed cup of tea as I just got back in from going through the procedure or "pairing" her new to her "smart" (no it is not) phone to her 2015 Fabia Mk3.  We follow the Infotainment instructions, that do not match to what we see on the screen but no matter we soldiered on and second attempt the phone and Infotainment found each other and will no doubt lose each other at some point in the future to repeat the procedure.  Oh, what great fun dealing with a computer and an impatient wife that is more than capable of reading the instructions herself but wants me to suffer too because she knows how much I "luv" to fart about which such things particularly after a week of various computer program faults interfering with the smooth running of important parts of my life, thank gawd we don't have to rely on computers for driving, or no wait, we do. 😆

 

For Quote boxes in posts, just highlight the text you want, give it half a second and you should see a green box with black outline and "Quote section" text inside it, example below (by mistake to be honest).

1 hour ago, Santisilver said:

Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels:. 7P6-035-730.clb

 

8 minutes ago, nta16 said:

And you have thank you.

 

 

I was thinking pins could be bent from just disconnecting and reconnecting perhaps  or if wrong plugs are put into wrong sockets or upside down if either is possible it only take a fraction of a second to bent tiny flimsy pins.  Also of course the connections need to be clean, no corrosion or crud, I know there should not be any but, well just but.

 

 

Yes that is what I was thinking with reinputting the data of the original unit, I know it is showing on the OBDEleven but I don't trust computer programs fully from decades of having computer in my life and experience of computer programs and computer programmers indirectly.  Always remember computer are not clever or intelligent they are just dumb programs, keep things simple for them even if they make things vastly unnecessarily complicated for you.

 

 

I am about as far away from any sort of pro in coding or anything else, I just meant put the serial number of the Swing unit in to the space without it, I guess the serial number it is on a label on the Swing unit, the description serial number is a bit of a misnomer as the "number" can include letters too.  And then to re-enter the numbers for hardware and software that are already show by OBDEleven.

 

 

Thank you, I too very much like for posters to report back, of of courtesy and to give the resolve or information for others.

 

 

I did not see that post until I had already started this post so will have a quick look at that after a much needed cup of tea as I just got back in from going through the procedure or "pairing" her new to her "smart" (no it is not) phone to her 2015 Fabia Mk3.  We follow the Infotainment instructions, that do not match to what we see on the screen but no matter we soldiered on and second attempt the phone and Infotainment found each other and will no doubt lose each other at some point in the future to repeat the procedure.  Oh, what great fun dealing with a computer and an impatient wife that is more than capable of reading the instructions herself but wants me to suffer too because she knows how much I "luv" to fart about which such things particularly after a week of various computer program faults interfering with the smooth running of important parts of my life, thank gawd we don't have to rely on computers for driving, or no wait, we do. 😆

 

For Quote boxes in posts, just highlight the text you want, give it half a second and you should see a green box with black outline and "Quote section" text inside it, example below (by mistake to be honest).

 

Than you so much for the quoting tip.

ill wait to your comments after reading the VCDS results. 
just in addition you can see that not even the buttons are on.

 

 

2 hours ago, Santisilver said:

1 Fault Found:
01304 - Can't Decode, CODE File Not Loaded! 
            004 - Can't Decode, CODE File Not Loaded!
             Freeze Frame:
                  Date: 2057.14.11
                    Time: 05:22:30

Good to have it confirmed but OBDEleven gives same full report and most VW owners prefer VCDS if they have the oprion but you might be like me and dislike the (my words and description now) horrid "legacy" 1990s maths/computer/mechanics nerdy look and complex jargony system that VVCDS is.

 

Can you remember was you disconnecting the Chinese (learnt your lesson there) radio at, hold on "05:22:30" were you really doing this at 5 am or is the VCDS time stamp wrong, not reset to correct time - and "Date: 2057.14.11" 2057, really(!??!) does the OBDEleven give the same time and date?

 

And anyway, this was what I meant by the (serial, hard, soft ware) numbers showing on your OBDEleven screen but perhaps not registered with the car, perhaps the computer does not give power to a unit that is not there as far as the computer is concerned but I do not know, might not be speaking out of my speaking orifice with that last bit, as some would be quick to point out.

 

2 hours ago, Santisilver said:

Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 7H0 937 090 D    HW: 7H0 937 090 
   Component: BCM PQ25 Max4 H74 0725  
 [ ........................................................................................ ]

   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 K    HW: 6R0 959 812 K
   Component: J389__TSG_HR  006 5210 
   Serial number: 13102566140523151156
   Coding: 420000

1 Fault Found:
03302 - Can't Decode, CODE File Not Loaded! 
            008 - Can't Decode, CODE File Not Loaded!
             Freeze Frame:
                    Date: 2057.14.11
                    Time: 06:57:09

Going back J289 off/from(?) J519 have you got a wiring diagram and know what parts/modules(?) these are?

 

2 hours ago, Santisilver said:

Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels:. 7P6-035-730.clb
   
3 Faults Found:
9457427 - Can't Decode, CODE File Not Loaded! 
          

9457171 - Can't Decode, CODE File Not Loaded! 
          

0022 - Can't Decode, CODE File Not Loaded! 
          

Same for J412

 

 

2 hours ago, Santisilver said:

Address 19: DTCs cleared

Yes I think it is always best to keep clearing the codes even though you know they or some of them will return the less mess for you and the computer programs to deal with the better.  Much car servicing, maintenance and some repair can often boil down to simple clean and lubricate for computers/electronics deleting codes is a form of cleaning as far as I am concerned, there is enough crap to deal with on computers to allow it any to sit and fester.

 

As you can see I have no time for computer or other jargonery  or arrogant superiority of being exclusive by making things unnecessarily complex and secretive, a good system would be easy and intuitive to use, I understand and accept that there can be many good reasons to exclude but swapping out a radio (yes I know it is more than a radio) should not be included.  Unless of course the cheap Chinese unit has done something to bugger up the honourable German computer system which I suppose might be possible but you would hope not and surely the German system would have safeguards to prevent this.

 

As you can tell you really need someone who knows what they are talking about with these things, and who does not get so annoyed by them so easily - but hopefully with your wide VCDS report and the number of posts on this thread now it will attract those members.

 

There is at least one member that could help you with those J parts and wiring and other very knowledgeable with electronics, electrics and VCDS (other know OBDEleven) as you did not do anything other(?) than a scan with OBDEleven they cannot blame OBDEleven for this outage.

 

I hope any small part of this and previous post helps you.

 

Keep going and let us know how you get on, I think you can use the car without the Infotainment unit, perhaps unlike later cars, and to me have the joy of not having mobile phone contact whilst in the car at least (I do not have a "smart" device of any sort yet somehow survive in life, I was fed up with mobile phone and SatNav, though that is not what I call them, from decades back, the phone signal have gone back to how bad they were in the earlier days.

 

Right, I must stop the moaning and get on and allow you to do so too, if you got this far. 😁

 

Edited 1 February, 20251 yr by nta16

2 hours ago, nta16 said:

Good to have it confirmed but OBDEleven gives same full report and most VW owners prefer VCDS if they have the oprion but you might be like me and dislike the (my words and description now) horrid "legacy" 1990s maths/computer/mechanics nerdy look and complex jargony system that VVCDS is.

 

Can you remember was you disconnecting the Chinese (learnt your lesson there) radio at, hold on "05:22:30" were you really doing this at 5 am or is the VCDS time stamp wrong, not reset to correct time - and "Date: 2057.14.11" 2057, really(!??!) does the OBDEleven give the same time and date?

 

And anyway, this was what I meant by the (serial, hard, soft ware) numbers showing on your OBDEleven screen but perhaps not registered with the car, perhaps the computer does not give power to a unit that is not there as far as the computer is concerned but I do not know, might not be speaking out of my speaking orifice with that last bit, as some would be quick to point out.

 

Going back J289 off/from(?) J519 have you got a wiring diagram and know what parts/modules(?) these are?

 

Same for J412

 

 

Yes I think it is always best to keep clearing the codes even though you know they or some of them will return the less mess for you and the computer programs to deal with the better.  Much car servicing, maintenance and some repair can often boil down to simple clean and lubricate for computers/electronics deleting codes is a form of cleaning as far as I am concerned, there is enough crap to deal with on computers to allow it any to sit and fester.

 

As you can see I have no time for computer or other jargonery  or arrogant superiority of being exclusive by making things unnecessarily complex and secretive, a good system would be easy and intuitive to use, I understand and accept that there can be many good reasons to exclude but swapping out a radio (yes I know it is more than a radio) should not be included.  Unless of course the cheap Chinese unit has done something to bugger up the honourable German computer system which I suppose might be possible but you would hope not and surely the German system would have safeguards to prevent this.

 

As you can tell you really need someone who knows what they are talking about with these things, and who does not get so annoyed by them so easily - but hopefully with your wide VCDS report and the number of posts on this thread now it will attract those members.

 

There is at least one member that could help you with those J parts and wiring and other very knowledgeable with electronics, electrics and VCDS (other know OBDEleven) as you did not do anything other(?) than a scan with OBDEleven they cannot blame OBDEleven for this outage.

 

I hope any small part of this and previous post helps you.

 

Keep going and let us know how you get on, I think you can use the car without the Infotainment unit, perhaps unlike later cars, and to me have the joy of not having mobile phone contact whilst in the car at least (I do not have a "smart" device of any sort yet somehow survive in life, I was fed up with mobile phone and SatNav, though that is not what I call them, from decades back, the phone signal have gone back to how bad they were in the earlier days.

 

Right, I must stop the moaning and get on and allow you to do so too, if you got this far. 😁

 

 

Thanks for the reply.

 

What you see in VCDs are the many attemps I did this afternoon.

 

Do not follow that time. Car clock was restarted the many times I disconnected the battery, praying for a system reboot.

 

Another thing that I was annoyed, when all these happend, also the kms done since last reset were gone, and back to 0. that also shocked me, and maybe the reason of thinking that there weas some extra tension going through the network?

 

I really dont know how to search thos "J" components. Do you know those members with VCDS seniority? I might PM them

 

Worst case, monday morning I leave the car at a workshop and cross fingers. the last option is to go to skoda dealership, but appointments are, earliest, end of February.

Edited 1 February, 20251 yr by Santisilver

32 minutes ago, Santisilver said:

Do not follow that time. Car clock was restarted the many times I disconnected the battery, praying for a system reboot.

As far as I know, very little, that would not explain wrong time and dates on report, especially the year 2057, as if the electronics would ever last that long let alone the car (my last car is now nearly 52 years old and still going as far as I know, I think there are still a couple of items on it from 1973, and still working

2 hours ago, nta16 said:

1 Fault Found:
01304 - Can't Decode, CODE File Not Loaded! 
            004 - Can't Decode, CODE File Not Loaded!
             Freeze Frame:
                  Date: 2057.14.11
                    Time: 05:22:30

Perhaps those more technical will have an explanation for 2057 (ghosts in the machine). 😁

 

 

32 minutes ago, Santisilver said:

also the kms done since last reset were gone, and back to 0.

If you mean the tripometers or fuel usage then yes that is one of the few things along with the time of day clock that is lost with battery disconnection / replacement.  Personally I do not worry about MPG with a modern heavy vehicle with 5 seats and most often only one or two occupants using it, we are old so used to knowing roughly what the MPG is from last fuel refill and current one by dividing litres into miles (suck is UK confusion with going metric)  travelled off the mileometer.

 

32 minutes ago, Santisilver said:

I really dont know how to search thos "J" components. Do you know those members with VCDS seniority? I might PM them

DOH !!! I am really sorry I forgot to put the link up!   There is no one is Sweden listed but nearby countries or your English is so good plenty in the UK but to go that way might be very hit and miss.  As shown best to check if members are currently active on the site (in which case some might see this thread at some point.  See list link below.

 

To check the last time a member visited the site follow the hyperlink to their er wotsit on here and look at "LAST VISITED". - 

 

 

 

 

 

Briskoda VCDS Owners Map (click me)

 

Will come bay to Js as it is tea time now

 

Edited 1 February, 20251 yr by nta16

These J things seem to be modules or embedded module inside another module, all German car complex intertwined stuff as usual, also seem to be model and perhaps year(s) specific.  A wiring diagram off your VIN will give the flow but not actual physical identification nor physical location in the vehicle.

 

5J is a Mk2 Fabia (I only know this as we had problems identifying a 2014 2015 Fabia recently) so perhaps the members that view and post in the Fabia Ml2 forum will know more, I know some will and at least one that will be able to help you with wiring diagram and about electrics with your VIN but I cannot volunteer other members services.  Have a look in or post in the 'Skoda Fabia Mk2 (2007-2014)' forum. - https://www.briskoda.net/forums/forum/113-skoda-fabia-mk2-2007-2014/

 

Which also reminds me, you could also look in and ask in the 'Audio, Electronics and Security' forum. - https://www.briskoda.net/forums/forum/7-audio-electronics-and-security/

 

Careful not to multiple-post in different forums be specific but you could mention electrics, wiring and coding in all.

 

Hope that helps.

 

Edited 2 February, 20251 yr by nta16
ETA: wrong year

On 01/02/2025 at 23:27, nta16 said:

These J things seem to be modules or embedded module inside another module, all German car complex intertwined stuff as usual, also seem to be model and perhaps year(s) specific.  A wiring diagram off your VIN will give the flow but not actual physical identification nor physical location in the vehicle.

 

5J is a Mk2 Fabia (I only know this as we had problems identifying a 2014 2015 Fabia recently) so perhaps the members that view and post in the Fabia Ml2 forum will know more, I know some will and at least one that will be able to help you with wiring diagram and about electrics with your VIN but I cannot volunteer other members services.  Have a look in or post in the 'Skoda Fabia Mk2 (2007-2014)' forum. - https://www.briskoda.net/forums/forum/113-skoda-fabia-mk2-2007-2014/

 

Which also reminds me, you could also look in and ask in the 'Audio, Electronics and Security' forum. - https://www.briskoda.net/forums/forum/7-audio-electronics-and-security/

 

Careful not to multiple-post in different forums be specific but you could mention electrics, wiring and coding in all.

 

Hope that helps.

 

New guess…

 

I’ve noticed that the battery is 11,2 volts before starting the car. One of the things that was buzzing in my head lately was that due to other reasons, for example, start&stop never working, and just doing it after I unplugged the battery. It worked a few times and then back to normal not working.

also noticed that when SS is working, headlights when the car turns on again really get super weak, almost off.

 

With that said, I read some people having issues with some systems in their cars when a battery is weak.

 

could that be the case?

 

before I leave the car at the workshop to morrow I will measure voltage directly to the battery instead of using OBD

11 hours ago, Santisilver said:

I’ve noticed that the battery is 11,2 volts before starting the car. One of the things that was buzzing in my head lately was that due to other reasons, for example, start&stop never working, and just doing it after I unplugged the battery. It worked a few times and then back to normal not working.

also noticed that when SS is working, headlights when the car turns on again really get super weak, almost of

Unbelievable, normally the first thing I bang on about is battery states of charge!  But I haven't this time, Sod's Law proven yet again, if you look at many of my posts in other threads I go on about battery state of charge, even if you post the tyre has a puncture 😄 because the battery state of charge is so important to the VW computer systems.  If the battery is low, even if the engine starts and the lights seem bright enough, the computers can be upset and cause all sorts of unexpected warning lights, messages, issues/problems and error codes.

 

There's very little point doing a scan if the battery is too low, same for the battery in the scan tool, otherwise you can get false and spurious readings and reports - not that I am saying this is the case for you now..

 

The scan tool also needs the program for the (make) model and year (VIN) of vehicle be fully up to date before it is used on the vehicle, again to prevent possibly misinformation from errors that have been corrected on updates.

 

 

11 hours ago, Santisilver said:

before I leave the car at the workshop to morrow I will measure voltage directly to the battery instead of using OBD

Great idea, instead of relying on two computer programs (car and tool) go directly to the source, measure at the battery terminal posts.  Plus the scan tool takes some power doing its work, there is usually a battery voltage reading on the scan tool at the top of each the page/screen.

 

Normally I would suggest fully recharging the battery with an appropriate battery charger maintainer following the instructions in the car's Owner's Manual and instructions for the charger maintainer (read the instructions to connect up correctly, not reading and referring to instructions is for lazy, arrogant professionals and DIYers).  Then it is best to recharge the battery at a low rate (2, 3 or 4-amps) and this will take a long time, many hours into a day or more.  If you have an EFB battery you can check the  "water" (electrolyte) level in all 6 cells before and after recharging and before recharging check to see if any of the cell plates are damaged, if so you might be best to just buy a new battery.

 

 

11 hours ago, Santisilver said:

start&stop never working, and just doing it after I unplugged the battery. It worked a few times and then back to normal not working.

also noticed that when SS is working, headlights when the car turns on again really get super weak, almost off.

Start stop not working when it should is the first sign of the battery being in a low state of charge and the battery should be either charged by a reasonable good driving run, with low electrical use in the car, or better still fully recharged with an appropriate battery charger maintainer - (but the bit about the stop/start working yet the headlights are dim doesn't make sense).  I think you might have damaged your battery beyond reasonable reliable recovery use which is why I put in the paragraph before normally I would suggest recharging but I think you might have taken the battery too far but you could try a low, slow recharge and see how much it recovers, for how long, but as you also have the OBDEleven you can "code" in the new battery, I or others can give you the simple details, but like all data input it has to be done correctly, another member had a pro auto-electrician **** this up and damage his new battery that curtailed its life to months rather than years.

 

Having a new or as much as possible fully recharged battery probably not solve your main issue but a battery in good state of charge will help with diagnostics whereas a battery in low state of charge can hinder diagnostics and even prevent proper diagnostics particularly for electric/electronic and engine starting issues but as much of the car runs on computer programs most things are affected.  A flat battery brings a full stop to things.

 

I could kick myself for not doing my usual stiff on battery (that some moan about) and scan tool but even I sometimes forget the very basics, and the very basics are all I know.

 

See what reading you get off the battery terminal posts (engine, so alternator, not run for as many hours as possible).

 

Just one example -

 

 

Edited 3 February, 20251 yr by nta16

14 minutes ago, nta16 said:

Unbelievable, normally the first thing I bang on about is battery states of charge!  But I haven't this time, Sod's Law proven yet again, if you look at many of my posts in other threads I go on about battery state of charge, even if you post the tyre has a puncture 😄 because the battery state of charge is so important to the VW computer systems.  If the battery is low, even if the engine starts and the lights seem bright enough, the computers can be upset and cause all sorts of unexpected warning lights, messages, issues/problems and error codes.

 

There's very little point doing a scan if the battery is too low, same for the battery in the scan tool, otherwise you can get false and spurious readings and reports - not that I am saying this is the case for you now..

 

The scan tool also needs the program for the (make) model and year (VIN) of vehicle be fully up to date before it is used on the vehicle, again to prevent possibly misinformation from errors that have been corrected on updates.

 

 

Great idea, instead of relying on two computer programs (car and tool) go directly to the source, measure at the battery terminal posts.  Plus the scan tool takes some power doing its work, there is usually a battery voltage reading on the scan tool at the top of each the page/screen.

 

Normally I would suggest fully recharging the battery with an appropriate battery charger maintainer following the instructions in the car's Owner's Manual and instructions for the charger maintainer (read the instructions to connect up correctly, not reading and referring to instructions is for lazy, arrogant professionals and DIYers).  Then it is best to recharge the battery at a low rate (2, 3 or 4-amps) and this will take a long time, many hours into a day or more.  If you have an EFB battery you can check the  "water" (electrolyte) level in all 6 cells before and after recharging and before recharging check to see if any of the cell plates are damaged, if so you might be best to just buy a new battery.

 

 

Start stop not working when it should is the first sign of the battery being in a low state of charge and the battery should be either charged by a reasonable good driving run, with low electrical use in the car, or better still fully recharged with an appropriate battery charger maintainer - (but the bit about the stop/start working yet the headlights are dim doesn't make sense).  I think you might have damaged your battery beyond reasonable reliable recovery use which is why I put in the paragraph before normally I would suggest recharging but I think you might have taken the battery too far but you could try a low, slow recharge and see how much it recovers, for how long, but as you also have the OBDEleven you can "code" in the new battery, I or others can give you the simple details, but like all data input it has to be done correctly, another member had a pro auto-electrician **** this up and damage his new battery that curtailed its life to months rather than years.

 

Having a new or as much as possible fully recharged battery probably not solve your main issue but a battery in good state of charge will help with diagnostics whereas a battery in low state of charge can hinder diagnostics and even prevent proper diagnostics particularly for electric/electronic and engine starting issues but as much of the car runs on computer programs most things are affected.  A flat battery brings a full stop to things.

 

I could kick myself for not doing my usual stiff on battery (that some moan about) and scan tool but even I sometimes forget the very basics, and the very basics are all I know.

 

See what reading you get off the battery terminal posts (engine, so alternator, not run for as many hours as possible).

 

Just one example -

 

 

i measured the battery this morning and it was 12,2. Quite disappointed since obd was reading something else the days before. I was dreaming about having solved the issue.

but maybe it left some charge after my 90 km drive I did on Sunday with the car.

 

truth is that I bought this car as a multipurpose second car for the household back on last October. Being room mate with an Audi S3 sedan facelift that don’t want to kill in short journeys.

 

lets see if the workshop finds the issue and we get a final verdict. If not I might have to make an appointment in official dealer and prepare my wallet 

 

 

12.2v (depending when and how taken) is not too low but is low I would ideally want the battery fully recharged before doing diagnostics as just testing things and time passing can lower the battery charge state.

 

As I put using a computer program going through another computer program (particularly if low states of charge in battery or batteries) would not be more choice I prefer the direct battery terminals approach, then of course it depends on the quality of the measuring instrument (digital multimeter) and other factors but usually a reasonable quality meter will give a good enough reliability to reading.  I am not sure how good the OBDEleven programming and programs are but always the rule is never just trust what a computer tells you always verify the information, computers do not always give the correct answer.

 

Sorry, I am unusual here as I have never like VW cars (Golf Mk1 GTi excepted) and to me German engineering car quality dropped quickly from the turn of the century, Audis of the 1970s and 1980s were nice cars well engineered but so were SAABs and Volvo.  An ex-neighbour used to collects and drive all sorts of makes and models of cars at finish of contract, 1, 2 or 3 years old, sometimes over long distances and he told me that the best to drive were the Audis but he would not want one out of warranty now.  We have had Audis in the car club I am in mainly the R8 and the V10 when they came out rather than the "classic" models and the VAG Bentleys, they are loaded with Audi stuff but Audis generally are still generally just VW stuff on electronics and other parts.  To see a VAG Bentley stripped is to see lots of VAG plastic bits, Audi electronics I believe, might be wrong, tends to be more complex than VW and Bentley more complex Audi but all VW family I believe, could be wrong.

 

For many decades back the German  marques have prided themselves on being (over) complex, not always to their or their customers benefit though. 

 

Even the Fabia deserves better servicing than the VW "services" (engine oil and filter change and very little more other than a look for more chargeable work) and the maintenance schedule, and would benefit from better quality (engine transmission) oils than VW dictates (same would apply to the Audi S3 I would guess, don't know).  At 2014 you are at the very end of the better built Fabias, (not as good as Mk1) from my experience of a 2015 Mk3 and what I read on the site forums here, but you should still be able to get more good service life out of the car, subject to its history and present condition.

 

A good independent garage or mechanic (difficult to find in the UK) should be able to sort this for you.  As always good luck and let us know how you get on.

 

ETA; I forgot to put my usual voltage tables from VW and Ring Automotive (part of Osram).

 

VW

Charge level             No-load          voltage

1.28 g/cm3                 100%              12.7 V

1.21 g/cm3                 60%                12.3 V

1.18 g/cm3                 40%                12.1 V

1.10 g/cm3                 0%                  11.7 V

 

Figures from my ex-neighbour's Ring battery charger/tester. -

12.7v - 100%             12.5v - 90%               12.4v - 80%               12.3V - 70%

12.2v - 60%               12.1v - 50%               11.9v - 40%               11.8v - 30%

11.6v - 20%               11.3v - 10%

 

Just to give some clarity, voltage was measured before ignition, and as I read, if it’s 12 or slightly higher is a healthy battery. Very crazy.

 

i got a quick call with the workshop, and the guy said that he saw the lack of communication between car and radio and that he can fix it. Apart of that he will also fix the wiring on my right door. I knew this but was waiting to have the time to fix it myself. But… if he fixes my issue, why not get the car completely fixed?

 

I might get the car tomorrow so will keep posted here. Spoiler alert communication between him and me is quite poor since his English is not the best, and my Swedish… close to 0 😂. Still will try to get the most accurate answer to the issue to help any future cases.

Edited 3 February, 20251 yr by Santisilver

1 hour ago, Santisilver said:

and as I read, if it’s 12 or slightly higher is a healthy batter

No around 12v is low for battery state of charge (state of health has another meaning so we'll stick with charge here).  If you mean you didn't turn the ignition then yes that is the way to take the reading and as many hours after the engine has been run as possible.

 

Now your 12.2v reading could be good if say 0.2v can be added to allow for all the car systems doing their stuff even when the car is parked up, 12.2v + 0.2v = 12.4 v a good voltage for the VW battery program for fuel and emissions (show).  But 12.2v is lower and needs charging with use of car or better still recharging to full with charger to give greater margin.

 

You live in Sweden you have a 10 year old VW I personally suggest you get an appropriate battery charger maintainer or just keep an eye on your battery and replace it as required (it could have a much longer and more reliable life by using a charger occasionally or when required but prevention is better than cure.  If you have a newer VAG 2017, 2019 and gawd help you 2023/4/5 you will have greater need of a charger or more frequent of a charger or more frequent changes of battery.

 

If nothing else remember if the start/stop isn't working when it should usually that is the first sign your battery needs charging (by driving or charger) potentially the longer you leave it or ignore it the greater the need might become, you can only use and abuse the battery so much for so long.  Also bear in mind with a 12 year old car the battery and alternator are a pair is one is weak it weakens the other and when older they take more work less well (in general terms).

 

Putting a battery charger maintainer on is one of the few jobs on a car where it's easy and quick clean hands where you can leave it to sort itself while you go off and do anything you like and most things are a lot better than farting about with a car, to me cars are for driving and all else is a PITA to lesser or greater degrees.

 

Let us know if it's sorted and if you can get more info about it great.  If you are living  in Sweden and not picked up the language enough to get by you are rather proving the stereotype of the English.

 

36 minutes ago, nta16 said:

No around 12v is low for battery state of charge (state of health has another meaning so we'll stick with charge here).  If you mean you didn't turn the ignition then yes that is the way to take the reading and as many hours after the engine has been run as possible.

 

Now your 12.2v reading could be good if say 0.2v can be added to allow for all the car systems doing their stuff even when the car is parked up, 12.2v + 0.2v = 12.4 v a good voltage for the VW battery program for fuel and emissions (show).  But 12.2v is lower and needs charging with use of car or better still recharging to full with charger to give greater margin.

 

You live in Sweden you have a 10 year old VW I personally suggest you get an appropriate battery charger maintainer or just keep an eye on your battery and replace it as required (it could have a much longer and more reliable life by using a charger occasionally or when required but prevention is better than cure.  If you have a newer VAG 2017, 2019 and gawd help you 2023/4/5 you will have greater need of a charger or more frequent of a charger or more frequent changes of battery.

 

If nothing else remember if the start/stop isn't working when it should usually that is the first sign your battery needs charging (by driving or charger) potentially the longer you leave it or ignore it the greater the need might become, you can only use and abuse the battery so much for so long.  Also bear in mind with a 12 year old car the battery and alternator are a pair is one is weak it weakens the other and when older they take more work less well (in general terms).

 

Putting a battery charger maintainer on is one of the few jobs on a car where it's easy and quick clean hands where you can leave it to sort itself while you go off and do anything you like and most things are a lot better than farting about with a car, to me cars are for driving and all else is a PITA to lesser or greater degrees.

 

Let us know if it's sorted and if you can get more info about it great.  If you are living  in Sweden and not picked up the language enough to get by you are rather proving the stereotype of the English.

 

Buying a battery charger is a to do list for sure, not only for this car but also for the other.

I’m very looking forward to get this fixed and share, but also checking what head unit can be a solution, I checked that they sell RCD660 pro with CarPlay and plug&play. 

Regarding the language barrier, English isn’t my mother language either.
Can tell you… living in a big city in Sweden, where lots of big corporate offices are established is a pole of attraction for foreigners. I’m one of those.
I lived in Germany before and learnt the language since they are more stubborn to switch to English. In Sweden is completely different. Born and raised Swedish speak perfect English and rather prefer to speak it to listening silly Swedish from expats like me.

People that can’t speak English here are normally not born here and come from specific countries and chose learning Swedish, and totally understand. They come to forge a life here.

 

I think I have enough with Spanish, english, German and Portuguese in my head, and also not expecting to live forever here. It’s just a stop for a while in my life haha.

Update.

 

FIXED.

my early guesses confirmed it. At some point when unplugging the Chinese head unit, voltage went higher than expected to the plug in the gateway. That was the reason why there was no communication.

happy to have the car back with the radio working but also with some issues it had since I bought it last October. Wiring on the 2 front door were completely destroyed, now is al fixed and all buttons and door lock working. 
 

time to send back the cheap radio and search something better. 

The fault codes that you had were to be expected when the factory radio is removed, I have them too.

 

The Chinese ones take the information from the canbus like vehicle speed (for increasing volume) steering angle (for the trajectory screen of reversing camera) and all the other stuff that it displays like doors open, heater fan speed etc but it does not communicate (talk back) with the Can gateway controller and the standard Bluetooth module. For bluetooth you have to use the built in one on the Chinese head unit but it cannot use the better placed manufacturers microphone.

 

You learn to live with them.

8 minutes ago, J.R. said:

The fault codes that you had were to be expected when the factory radio is removed, I have them too.

 

The Chinese ones take the information from the canbus like vehicle speed (for increasing volume) steering angle (for the trajectory screen of reversing camera) and all the other stuff that it displays like doors open, heater fan speed etc but it does not communicate (talk back) with the Can gateway controller and the standard Bluetooth module. For bluetooth you have to use the built in one on the Chinese head unit but it cannot use the better placed manufacturers microphone.

 

You learn to live with them.

I am aware of that and could live with them, but the issue here was that radio had no power

@Santisilver perhaps you already done the following but I was thinking, after the event I know, about pulling a fuse before disconnecting the factory unit and reconnecting the Chinese but your issue might prove the old basic thing of disconnect the battery as the VW computer programs and systems are so (over) complex and intertwined.

 

Getting cheap Chinese stuff is a gamble they do of course make some excellently made stuff, but whilst price isn't always a good indication the lower priced end and quality and quality control may be more hit and miss. 

 

As you put before you reporting back will hopefully help others.

 

10 hours ago, nta16 said:

@Santisilver perhaps you already done the following but I was thinking, after the event I know, about pulling a fuse before disconnecting the factory unit and reconnecting the Chinese but your issue might prove the old basic thing of disconnect the battery as the VW computer programs and systems are so (over) complex and intertwined.

 

Getting cheap Chinese stuff is a gamble they do of course make some excellently made stuff, but whilst price isn't always a good indication the lower priced end and quality and quality control may be more hit and miss. 

 

As you put before you reporting back will hopefully help others.

 

All very valid points. Disconnecting the battery takes 0,5 minutes and it can save a big headache.

 

Not big fan of Chinese crap but I always prefer closest look to OEM look rather than aftermarket good brands. Call me crazy.

i have an excellent experience with another leisure car I have (Porsche 987 Boxster). There was a development between a Porsche fan and a Chinese company to have a good head unit that can fit 987 and 997. It fits the original design, buttons, and includes wireless CarPlay etc etc. excellent add that even works if you have the Bose speaker system.

 

i learnt the lesson and better go with something better in the skoda.

 

found this interesting unit, RCD880 PRO. It is basically an original RCD330 chassis with new front. So it’s a real plug&play.

you keep the VAG software style, even the screens for parking sensors.

positive is that this unit has a rear USB to plug the wireless CarPlay adaptor.

 

Yes, it’s more expensive. But it’s OEM software inside.

 

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We all make mistakes, I was reluctant to mention disconnecting the battery as it was after the event it was more for the future work.  Only today I reminded my wife to switch off the switch on a shed "13-amp" wall socket even though nothing was plugged into it so that it wasn't live when something was plugged into it, only to be told she'd left it as she found it and I was the last one to use it, two mistakes I made there. 😄

 

Good info for other members with that unit

 

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