Hello wise folk!

 

i noticed today that my passenger door seal has become damaged. Two questions - is it possible that this could fall under the cover of an approved used Škoda? Secondly, if not, is this something that’s relatively easily replaceable? 

Personally I very much doubt it'll be covered by a warranty but costs nothing to ask the provider.

 

I would guess, don't know, the seal would just be pull off and push back on, possibly needing the heel of the hand or small rubber mallet, you might have to raise some plastic trims to tuck in but I don't know.  A plastic pry tool would help with this or suitable spatula if you can get it in and out of the kitchen (I keep a couple of old ones in the shed for such jobs).  HatBoYHarvey might have a video on this on his YouTube channel for the Mk1 to give you the general idea. - [ ETA: sorry, I was wrong there isn't a video of this ]

 

HTH.

 

Edited 17 February, 20251 yr by nta16
ETA:

@ian3  How long have you had the car before noticing the cut?

If it was there during the inspection during the Pre-sales but noticed or not noticed it was maybe not going to get replaced anyway.

If it was not noticed by you when buying the can then maybe damaged since.

 

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Which Dealership Group sold it to you, Arnold Clark?

8 minutes ago, Ootohere said:

@ian3  How long have you had the car before noticing the cut?

If it was there during the inspection during the Pre-sales but noticed or not noticed it was maybe not going to get replaced anyway.

If it was not noticed by you when buying the can then maybe damaged since.

 

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Which Dealership Group sold it to you, Arnold Clark?

Got it in August ‘24. 
 

don’t often have passengers in but it could’ve been done since then, but I dunno, it feels like it’s a bit of a weakness to have been damaged. 
it was approved used from a Parks Škoda dealer in Dumfries 

4 year old car.

Be sure to service the doors by cleaning out the drain holes at the bottom.

Water can gathers in there if the passenger door not open often, or even daily in some weather conditions. 

VW do use a number of lower quality parts.  Leaks on the inside of the rear door are common, hopefully yours is a god few years away from that if it arises.

 

They are not leaks on the inside of the doors, brand new cars have H2o going between the glass and top seal and out the bottom of the door.

Winter weather and doors not opened and there can be a block of ice in there. And common for ice and rubbers being torn. 

The leak at, with, in the area of, the rear door on my wife's 2015 Fabia rear door is I believe because of a seal inside the door (panel) same as the one from the Mk1 Fabia which was made many years before so no improvement, or successful improvement(s), made by VW in the time between.  I've had much older cars than this, British made too(!), not "German engineering quality", that didn't have such a problem.  I've had split door seals on 20+ year old cars, and others older still without split door seals.

 

This is the Mk1 problem I believe is the issue on my wife's 2015 Mk3 rear door - (not a split door seal as with OP). - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PjhoU1gEwk

 

Note: I was wrong he doesn't do a vid on door seal removal.

 

Edited 17 February, 20251 yr by nta16

@nta16  A  'Leak' into the cabin / interior is a different thing from water going into the door and flowing out of the bottom of the door and onto the ground when the door is opened. 

One has water inside the car, the other does not. 

 

Still happening with Scala, Kamiq and others.     Vorsprung Durch Technik never happened.  

 

 

Edited 17 February, 20251 yr by Ootohere

3 hours ago, Ootohere said:

They are not leaks on the inside of the doors, brand new cars have H2o going between the glass and top seal and out the bottom of the door.

Winter weather and doors not opened and there can be a block of ice in there. And common for ice and rubbers being torn. 

Do you know what this could be a thing - the weather was cold enough in Scotland just after Christmas for there to be a prolonged cold spell, maybe the door was pulled open/pushed shut when there was some ice and it’s damaged the seal. 
 

I still maintain that in a 4yo car these seals shouldn’t really be breaking. 

Newer then 4 year old ones split, in warranty sometimes.

 

I am in Scotland and it has been cold enough for rubbers freezing.

I prep for winter with Gummi Pflege or other rubber treatments 

 

Weather was cold enough this week in the part of Scotland where i am.     Snow tomorrow,then Scorchio so warm rain. 

 

 

Edited 17 February, 20251 yr by Ootohere

18 minutes ago, Ootohere said:

Newer then 4 year old ones split, in warranty sometimes.

 

I am in Scotland and it has been cold enough for rubbers freezing.

I prep for winter with Gummi Pflege or other rubber treatments 

 

Weather was cold enough this week in the part of Scotland where i am.     Snow tomorrow,then Scorchio so warm rain. 

 

 

 

It was cold enough to freeze my washer bottle and do the fuse, which I’ve never had happen on any other car! 
 

do you think that deal damage is likely to lead to water ingress to the passenger footwell? I should probably just look at getting it replaced… 

It can be if someone had to tug the door to get it open. Water freezes between the 2 seals. 

 

Or just some other way. 

 

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Where are you?

If the washer fluid is not for a low enough temperature it will freeze in the washer bottle.  

The lowest i had this winter was -14*oC.  But i use -20*oC washer fluid.   Not that it squirts as the nozzles freeze. 

3 hours ago, 1an3 said:

I still maintain that in a 4yo car these seals shouldn’t really be breaking. 

No they shouldn't, I still know much older cars with original factory door seals never treated to any special treatment, as I've seen threads here and as a matter of habit I've used various stuff on the Fabia seals seals, Gummi Pflege is just German for Rubber Care so don't pay extra for any stuff just because the words are in German.

 

3 hours ago, 1an3 said:

do you think that deal damage is likely to lead to water ingress to the passenger footwell?

I don't more likely to be some water held in the seal because of the hole but not enough to really get inside other than splashes, might freeze of course..

 

Some of these sill/cill level damaged rubbers will be due to "user misuse"  from anything like forcing large sharp edged items through the door openings to high heeled shoes that have compressed/worn metal end caps on them.

Just to confirm I do know the difference between the designed channelling of water on a door and when that breaks because of poor design or build and water leaks to interior that can be caused by this sort of fault.  I realise this is different to a split door seal which I've had on a 30+year old car.

 

My wife's 2015 Fabia got this fault at 9 years old, a mate 28 year old car doesn't have this and neighbours with cars coming up to around and above 20 years old don't have this and some of these are from supposedly "inferior" manufacturers.  As with the seats perhaps VW use cheaper materials to distinguish and justify price differentials of its brands like Škoda away from its eponymous brand.

 

I well remember the "wet doors" of the new MGF being explained by MG/Rover in the 90s to their customers (not me, I could afford one).

 

Edited 18 February, 20251 yr by nta16
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