8 hours ago, Ootohere said:

If they want one in for what ever reason and all they need is a longer bolt to hold it in then job done is it not?

The other choice being run the slightly less diameter / circumference emergency spare at a reduced speed until you get a repair or replacement at the soonest.

Not that handy if you might be towing, or in more rural areas.

The OP can maybe say if his father really needs an exact matching spare, or it is just his preference if he can have that.

No its not because for starters its not held in with a "bolt" It has a plastic threaded tube on a flexible mount, as to take the wheel out you have to lift it from the front(against the seat) and pull it up towards you. Secondly as the hole is about 12mm too small for the 18 it will sit over 150mm above the floor and ruin the boot space. Been there had exactly the same with the Tiguan needed an 18' spare as the 20 sat 70mm high if I tried to use the well. Op has answered with an acceptance of answers

Great.

Has any of you here with a Kamiq tried the !8" wheel / tyre in then?

Im not going to waste my time and energy on a futile exercise The 18 is 12mm larger diameter than the hole so whats the point. Is really snug around the 16 so there is NO POSSIBILITY of a 18 going in there Have already tried it on my other car and it was hopeless Wheel went down about an inch and jammed in the hole. Scratched a Mag doing it so am not about to repeat the futility. Let the 2 posters try when they get the cars and sort it out. Think about it If the car had 18's and an 18 would fit wouldnt you think they would put one in Jeez I dont know. Last VW I had that had 5 matching mags was my B7 Passat highline. Polo and Tiguan and Kamiq all have smaller steel space savers to cut costs and weight. If either of the 2 posters cars have 16 in wheels they will be able to put a matching spare in. If the cars have larger wheels they wont Very plain and very simple

Jeez no dude, because they just have a small selection of suitable Steel Saving Space Wheels across the 5 brands. Then there are skinny spaced savers. Steels for 3 stud patterns and a few sizes, 15, 16 and 18". Then a few tyre sizes. Even an A1 Competitions 18" Alloy and 225/35 18 cites in the spare tyre well of the sister card from VW, Skoda and Seat that comes with a 195/60r 15 spare or no spare. Many if the Skoda / VW group steel spares, saving space not SPACE savers are the size that the recommended if using Snow Chain sizes are. When putting in an Alloy in the spare tyre well it can sometimes be best outer face up. Especially with Diamond Cuts that are prone to White worm corrosion. Sometimes if you work in a tyre fitting bay or do repairs you get to know what goes into what hole. Not just circles I to square holes.

1 hour ago, Ootohere said:

Jeez no dude, because they just have a small selection of suitable Steel Saving Space Wheels across the 5 brands. Then there are skinny spaced savers. Steels for 3 stud patterns and a few sizes, 15, 16 and 18". Then a few tyre sizes. Even an A1 Competitions 18" Alloy and 225/35 18 cites in the spare tyre well of the sister card from VW, Skoda and Seat that comes with a 195/60r 15 spare or no spare. Many if the Skoda / VW group steel spares, saving space not SPACE savers are the size that the recommended if using Snow Chain sizes are. When putting in an Alloy in the spare tyre well it can sometimes be best outer face up. Especially with Diamond Cuts that are prone to White worm corrosion. Sometimes if you work in a tyre fitting bay or do repairs you get to know what goes into what hole. Not just circles I to square holes.

What I do know is an 18in wheel wont go in a 16 inch hole

Heads and brick walls come to mind here

12 minutes ago, Exkiwi said:

What I do know is an 18in wheel wont go in a 16 inch hole

Heads and brick walls come to mind here

The question was Will the standard 18" alloy that comes with the 2021 Kamiq fit in the wheel well?

The answer is When you get the car pull a wheel off and try it. Mine wont yours might Different country cars have different specs.

End of story

@Exkiwi I know what you mean. But as you know it is not the wheel in the middle of the tyres size that matters just the circumference of the tyre. The 18" wheel that are Space Savers fitted with skinny / narrow space saver tyres are meant to go right in there. I can not believe that not a single person here had a puncture and took out the spare and put the punctured tyre back in the spare tyre well. Just put in the boot, or tried in the tyre well and it would not fit.

Edited 19 June, 202519 Jun by Ootohere

Yes, the punctured tyre! I am assuming it will fit reasonably into the wheel well when it's flat. Probably with a bit of pushing and shoving. As I said, based on what I've seen I'd be happy to drive a few miles on the space saver with the punctured tyre in the wheel well. I'd not be happy to have an 18 inch wheel jammed into the spare wheel well as a spare tyre as it does not fit properly.

The rolling radius of the 16 inch wheel and tyre is different to the 18 inch wheel and tyre. This has been pointed out. Therefore the 16 inch wheel and tyre is no better than the space saver as you should not be running tyres of different rolling radius on the same axle.

The solution for the OP's father is to buy 5 x 16 inch wheels (ideally the Skoda ones) and tyres if he wants a proper "spare tyre", or to keep his 18 inch wheels and accept he can use the emergency space saver spare if he gets a puncture.

I'll say again that in this litigious age I'd only be using the solutions in the Skoda handbook. I'd even avoid buying my spare wheel kit from 3rd parties. Let's not forget that in 2025 wiring in a dash cam can apparently invalidate your insurance!

6 hours ago, Aldfort said:

Yes, the punctured tyre! I am assuming it will fit reasonably into the wheel well when it's flat. Probably with a bit of pushing and shoving. As I said, based on what I've seen I'd be happy to drive a few miles on the space saver with the punctured tyre in the wheel well. I'd not be happy to have an 18 inch wheel jammed into the spare wheel well as a spare tyre as it does not fit properly.

The rolling radius of the 16 inch wheel and tyre is different to the 18 inch wheel and tyre. This has been pointed out. Therefore the 16 inch wheel and tyre is no better than the space saver as you should not be running tyres of different rolling radius on the same axle.

The solution for the OP's father is to buy 5 x 16 inch wheels (ideally the Skoda ones) and tyres if he wants a proper "spare tyre", or to keep his 18 inch wheels and accept he can use the emergency space saver spare if he gets a puncture.

I'll say again that in this litigious age I'd only be using the solutions in the Skoda handbook. I'd even avoid buying my spare wheel kit from 3rd parties. Let's not forget that in 2025 wiring in a dash cam can apparently invalidate your insurance!

Your last comment is rubbish as some insurance companies give a discount if you have a dashcam. I have had them for 15 years and list them on my insurance and never had a problem. All this misinformation.. So you are saying that if someone runs up your arse and you have a front dashcam your claim will be denied. Get real. Incidentally the last time I had a tyre repaired was when my wife scuffed a curb about 12 years ago and as for punctures, well it is about 20 years. Also when I measure a round hole its the Diameter that matters not the circumference of what you are putting in it. Who would go to the trouble of measuring the inside distance around a hole., Just measure across it Simples

Edited 19 June, 202519 Jun by Exkiwi

Of course you measure the straight acoss. (But that is the widest bit)

But when comparing tyres you might stand the tyres / when side by side and compare. You might look at the charts and the comparison. But when we do go to see what a difference there is actually around a tyre and in the centre we just run a tape measure round when and get an accurate measurement.

Some of us have been doing this **** for a long time @Exkiwi

Some are not so stupid as to not know about measuring and also trying things.

All of these fit into the spare tyre well of a Fabia that comes with 195/60 R 15 Spares.

205/40 R 17. 215/40 R 17 & 205.45 R 17. also 225/35 R 18. The nubers on the tyre walls does not mean the sizes are identical and until you try ones you dont know which sit nicely right into the curve of the tyre well.

Edited 20 June, 202520 Jun by Ootohere

13 minutes ago, Ootohere said:

Of course you measure the straight a toss. But when comparing tyres you might stand the tyres / when side by side and compare. You might look at the charts and the comparison. But when we do go to see what a difference there is actually around a tyre and in the centre we just run a tape measure round when and get an accurate measurement.

Firstly We arent comparing "Tyres" the question is would a certain object fit in a certain hole The answer is NO NO NO Question 2 When you are going to make a hole to put a pipe through do you measure the circumference of the hole??????. Have never heard so much rubbish in my whole life. If you are going to put a 40mm pipe through a hole you would use a 45mm Hole saw. I doubt anyone in the world would either know or want to know the circumference of either. Like wise if you are trying to put a wheel assembly that is 12mm larger than the hole WIll it fit I doubtit I think you are just posting for fun or having a wind up because it simply isnt logical

I agree. But a spare tyre well is not a cylinder. It does not have vertical walls.

Edited 20 June, 202520 Jun by Ootohere

21 minutes ago, Ootohere said:

I agree. But a spare tyre well is not a cylinder. It does not have vertical walls.

Alright last and final comment . Firstly all your photos relate to a different model so why bother. I have pulled a wheel and tried to fit it in and this is what happened After i wrangled the spacesaver out I tried to get the 18in It jammed on the rear boot trim as its too wide to fit under it and so no hope of getting it down flat at all At the very most part of it it would slide about an inch or so into the hole which as you pointed out is not a constant width. Its a bit wider at the top but narrows down to tight against the tread. There was no chance it would sit flat and even proud of the well. So Im done with it. if your models have different boot trim well good luck But to get my space saver out I have to lift it up at the front and pull it towards the seats to get it out from under the trim then pull it right up and lift it out,. No way can I lift the closest part and pull it up and out towards me.

I’ve found the trick to easing the space saver out of the well is, after removing the big central plastic nut, to turn the big bolt through 90 degrees to release it from its bayonet type fixing.

@Exkiwi 2 last picture / link Kamiq spare tyre and we'll.

10 hours ago, Exkiwi said:

Your last comment is rubbish as some insurance companies give a discount if you have a dashcam. I have had them for 15 years and list them on my insurance and never had a problem. All this misinformation.. So you are saying that if someone runs up your arse and you have a front dashcam your claim will be denied. Get real. Incidentally the last time I had a tyre repaired was when my wife scuffed a curb about 12 years ago and as for punctures, well it is about 20 years. Also when I measure a round hole its the Diameter that matters not the circumference of what you are putting in it. Who would go to the trouble of measuring the inside distance around a hole., Just measure across it Simples

Sadly you are wrong and it's already documented elsewhere on this site. A hard wired dashcam is a modification according to many insurers. Sadly if you fail to notify the insurer of the modification you risk invalidating your insurance. Of course I'm speaking about the UK, where you live it may be different. 😁

5 minutes ago, Aldfort said:

Sadly you are wrong and it's already documented elsewhere on this site. A hard wired dashcam is a modification according to many insurers. Sadly if you fail to notify the insurer of the modification you risk invalidating your insurance. Of course I'm speaking about the UK, where you live it may be different. 😁

Really so read this https://www.comparethemarket.com.au/news/the-little-black-box-that-could-save-you-money-how-installing-dashcams-could-reduce-your-car-insurance-premiums/ https://www.aami.com.au/aami-informed/on-the-road/insuring-a-car/how-dash-cams-affect-car-insurance.html In Australia, a dash cam is not typically considered a modification for insurance purposes. While it's a useful accessory for providing evidence in the event of an accident or incident, it generally doesn't affect your car's performance or safety in a way that would require it to be classified as a modification.  So what about that then IM NOT WRONG and in fact as you see we have common sense here and the companies actively encourage you to use them and provide the evidence .. However they frown on it if you have one and DONT provide evidence if they ask for it.. Eg if it proves you are at fault. Similar to a Car Dealer refusing a claim for a blown engine because you have the wrong tyres on the car. Geez cant believe this site some times

Re warranty claims. Dealerships or actually staff so employees say many things. They are not the Warranty provider / underwritten. They might give opinions, but the claims and any decision goes to the Warranty Provider. They look at declared or approved modifications just like Insurers do. Many do knock back stuff but have then to reconsider once to he facts are clearly understood.

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19 minutes ago, Ootohere said:

Re warranty claims. Dealerships or actually staff so employees say many things. They are not the Warranty provider / underwritten. They might give opinions, but the claims and any decision goes to the Warranty Provider. They look at declared or approved modifications just like Insurers do. Many do knock back stuff but have then to reconsider once to he facts are clearly understood.

So who is the "Warranty provider" for Skoda afaik the dealer stands the cost of it or charges it to Skoda itself as if dealer wont play you normally go to Skoda or VW head office in your country. No others involved. There is a vast difference between a modification and an accessory Next you will be telling me the wireless phone charger I have is a modification and voids my insurance Incidentally I had done ove 30 Electronic adjustments to my Tiguan and didnt have to list them for insurance as was merely enabling parts of the car that VW had chosen not to on that model. Dealer was more interested in how it was done than what was done. Also in my Passat the mirrors folded Only one in Australia the dealer reckoned.. Is that modification. Just to F you up I found out how to do it on a UK Passat forum so must be some enlightened people over there Anyway Ive had enough of the rubbish so by bye.

VW own the Warranty provider. Dealerships / authorised repaired are your agent as much as they are theirs. A master tech or warranty manager on your side is far better than one that is not and not supporting a claim. I worked in or for dealership and did Assessments for paint / corrosion warranty claims in Dealerships. I also do rectification of paint defects. I also did pre and post sale treatments in the past. PDI preparations as well. Also did dealer fit options for different manufacturers.

Edited 20 June, 202520 Jun by Ootohere

22 hours ago, Exkiwi said:

Really so read this https://www.comparethemarket.com.au/news/the-little-black-box-that-could-save-you-money-how-installing-dashcams-could-reduce-your-car-insurance-premiums/ https://www.aami.com.au/aami-informed/on-the-road/insuring-a-car/how-dash-cams-affect-car-insurance.html In Australia, a dash cam is not typically considered a modification for insurance purposes. While it's a useful accessory for providing evidence in the event of an accident or incident, it generally doesn't affect your car's performance or safety in a way that would require it to be classified as a modification.  So what about that then IM NOT WRONG and in fact as you see we have common sense here and the companies actively encourage you to use them and provide the evidence .. However they frown on it if you have one and DONT provide evidence if they ask for it.. Eg if it proves you are at fault. Similar to a Car Dealer refusing a claim for a blown engine because you have the wrong tyres on the car. Geez cant believe this site some times

Yes - in Australia, not the same in the UK old bean.

So.. jumping back in here, now we have the car. I haven't been able to test to see if the 18 will fit yet (just haven't had the time) but the 16 spare alloy from my Octavia fits lovely with a bit of wiggle.

So would getting a 16" alloy do the job?

(I will still check the 18 when i get a chance.)

Basically will this work out for the car? (Fit the vehicle and be a good idea):

https://ebay.us/m/2nkC3I

Its cheaper to get a used alloy than a new 16" steel

18 minutes ago, Jetpac said:

So.. jumping back in here, now we have the car. I haven't been able to test to see if the 18 will fit yet (just haven't had the time) but the 16 spare alloy from my Octavia fits lovely with a bit of wiggle.

So would getting a 16" alloy do the job?

(I will still check the 18 when i get a chance.)

Basically will this work out for the car? (Fit the vehicle and be a good idea):

https://ebay.us/m/2nkC3I

Its cheaper to get a used alloy than a new 16" steel

My spare wheel/ tyre for Monte Carlo with 18” wheels has 205x55x16 tyre so 60 profile could be wrong, also tyre fitted on that shown is a directional Crossclimate so could only be used on one side of car.

Edited 30 June, 202530 Jun by Kenny R

3 minutes ago, Kenny R said:

My spare wheel/ tyre for Monte Carlo with 18” wheels has 205x55x16 tyre so 60 profile could be wrong, also tyre fitted on that shown is a directional Crossclimate so could only be used on one side of car.

Not gonna lie.. I'm ****ing clueless when it comes to what should and shouldn't be.

Do I need to match all the numbers on the current tyres (apart from the rim number?)