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Can anyone help.
Purchased 2024 fabia in February 2025 so didn't realise at the time that the A/C wasn't blowing as cold as I think it should. Took to Skoda dealership who apparently tested for fault codes and said there were no leaks and gas was correct, so nothing to put right. I then fitted a thermometer to my vent and drove for 25 mins in the rain with complete cloud cover and outside temperature was only 12.5. The vent temperature was 9.7. I did the same thing with my wife's 10 year old fabia and hers was 5.9. phoned dealer who said they didn't do a temperature probe test at the time because they didn't have one. They have offered for me to take it back but I don't trust them, and I'm worried it will turn in to one of those faults were your just going back and forth for months. There was no mention of whether they checked cabin filter or not. Car has got 12k miles.
Any ideas would be greatly received.

Yeah it's bad they didn't sort it first time but you will have to take it back to them or another VWŠkoda Dealership if you want this sorted under warranty. You could ask the Dealership if there are any Recalls (VW avoid these usually) or any technical bulletins (TPI? TBS?) on the issue, they keep those quiet, but just asking might show your greater level of intent to get this sorted.

Nowadays many rely on the computers giving the answer to them on a plate and/or firing the parts cannon at the car rather than any real interrogation of the information the computers supply and doing diagnostics from that information and using other diagnostics tools (particular the biological electronics they have between their ears).

Good luck. Let us know how you get on.

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Hi nta 16. Yes completely agree, hands on mechanics are a thing of the past. Wouldn't be so bad if dealerships in my area could book it in quicker than 4/6 weeks. Summer will be over by the time it gets sorted, if it ever does. A/C for me is a really important part of the car as I have breathing problems, and I'm not enjoying the car attall because of the A/C Thank you so much for your input. Really appreciate it.

CU_CUK_FP 26 021.pdfThere are still some good mechanics about and people acting decently in the motor trade but they're fewer and further apart now than even than the past and they often have enough work that they don't need to work weekends and have waits for their services.

Sorry to hear of your breathing difficulties because modern cars are so (over) big (and heavy) that they have lots of glass area on then for solar gain and the air movement in them far less, the ventilation system in my wife's Fabia in particular doesn't suit my wants or needs, with and without air-con on.

As your car is over a year old and regardless anyway you might want to look at what cabin filter is fitted and if and the area are dirty and if it's a cheaper sort than for your needs.

I going with Mann filters as I've always found them good (engine oil and air filters and cabin filter) they do a "Biofunctional! "FreciousPlus" cabin filter and have guide fitting notes with them.

That filter. - FP 26 021 - https://www.mann-filter.com/uk-en/catalogue/search-results/product.html/fp26021_mann-filter.html

And "Mounting instructions" (hopefully VW ones at the end of the leaflet). - CU_CUK_FP 26 021.pdf

Hope this might help a bit whilst you wait. ETA: if it was out of warranty I might have another suggestion but unfortunately the Dealerships can be arsey enough with warranty work or helping their customers without giving them what they consider more get-out clauses.

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@Scorpiodan What actual temperature do you want the interior at, in the centre of the car or at the centre of seats,

is it to be lower than exteriors temp of 12.5*oC.

I think that is not really achievable. Do you really want to travel with the interior colder than that,

or as low as 5.9 *oC?

An ideal temperature for inside a household fridge is 3-5*oC.

?

Is it not more important when say +20*oC out side and maybe near 30*oC inside that you can get the interior to a comfortable 15-16*oC? Even 14*oC if lucky.

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A reasonable point, the computers will be calculating with interior and exterior temperatures. Or those that they think they are, my wife's Fabia outside temperature can show a lot higher than the air temperature and takes a while of driving to sort itself out (neither "smart" or "Simply Clever" just the usual computer dumb).

Maybe the 10 year old Fabia (wait that's the same age as my wife's Fabia) isn't as "Simply Clever" as the 2024 Fabia and (wrongly by 2024 standards) achieves what Scorpiodan wants. I know with the air-con on in my wife's car once it has got rid of the solar gain cabin heat can get a bit cold for my liking (yet it's my wife that has five layers of clothing on in 25C heat).

My general understanding from reading stuff on this site is that in some ways the MK4 Fabia might not be as good as the Mk3, the Mk3 is generally lower quality than the Mk2 (other than perhaps later MK2s) and Mk2 not as well built as Mk1. Such is progress. Goes for other marques too I expect but perhaps to a lesser extent for some.

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Hi otohere. I probably didn't explain clearly what I was trying to say. I don't want my inside car temperature to be as cold as a fridge, about 20 would be acceptable. The point I was trying to make was that 9.7 at the vent on a cold day is not going to be much use on a day when it's 28/30 degrees outside, as it will take forever to cool the cabin.

Many thanks for your input

You explained perfectly what you have.

What you will get when 26*oC outside this week is the system in your car to bring it down to 16*oC inside.

a 10*oC decrease.

That is about it with Skoda. Your car is not faulty.

Now at 32*oC or so temp it might really struggle. Let us know how it goes please.

Maybe 18*oC or so but time will tell.

????

What is the lowest number the Climatic / AC can be set to is it 15, then next 'LOW.'?

What temperature is LOW set to get to?

Should have bought a Tesla. This is my MINI electric

22 degrees outside. Lowest setting is 16. AC blowing out 10 degrees C. Max AC turns of air intake to use inside air to lower and condition. Dry out. FASTER.

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Thank you nta16. I will definitely check if the cabin filter is clean, I'm confident I can do this thanks to the link you posted. I will let you know the outcome. And thank you otohere for pointing out the capabilities of the cars A/C. Maybe I will look into getting some high quality tints to reduce the heat getting in to help the A/C when temperatures get higher.

Climatic wotsit heating/cooling does throw another variable in especially if your wife is, in my opinion, fortunate enough not to have this less-than-wonder feature in her 10 year old Fabia. It hacks me off enough that the air-con switches on without my bidding when I change flow direction settings, far too much interference with the driver operating the controls and driving the car on a 2015 car, let alone 2024!

If I remember (!?) if I use my wife's car next Friday, although I avoid going outside too much when it's too sunny and warm (hot) for me (my old neighbour called me Dracula because when the sun was out I was in) I'll try to remember to take the thermometer and see what sort of difference I get from outside cabin to inside with air-con on (usually at second speed on fan blower), that's if I remember.

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That's great. Let me know your findings. I Don't avoid the heat, it's just with COPD the quicker I can clear the hot stuffy air the better. I fear if we have a heatwave then A/C just won't cope. Don't want it blasting me would rather cool the car. My wifes car has manual A/C with the 3 control knobs as does mine. Wasn't keen on the other system where you have to go into the infotainment system if you want to take control. Had one like that and don't rate it personally.

Tinted glass really does not keep the interior cooler.

Dark roofs / cars attract heat.

Hence White Roofs / Vehicles. Safari roofs on Land Rovers. Reflect the sun.

Go to the 1/4 Mile track or racing and there is lots of heat in the engine compartment.

Open the bonnet. If not opening the bonnet of a dark car and sun beating down it is much hotter under a dark bonnet.

Rally cars had dark bonnets for anti glare. Night time. Fashion. Love an Escort or Alfa.

Now Rally cars have Mirrored / reflective glass to reflect the sun, not tinted.

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Digital Fridge Thermometers. About £1.99 each.

You can measure oil temperature down the dipstick tube. Put in an Air Intake, or air cleaner box,

near the battery in the engine compartment.

Or relevant leave on the passengers seat, rear seats, next to the parking brake or whatever.

See the cars interior temperature. Winter time check Ground Frost compared to Air Temperature, wing mirror or above.

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Ok. Thanks

PS.

Digital thermometer,

no burning fingers checking discs temps. see if a calipers binding, or a bearing going. Wheel centre temp check.

If getting a TPMS warning and pressures OK check the tyres temperature.

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@Ootohere are mirrored windscreens legal on road cars?

1 hour ago, Scorpiodan said:

My wifes car has manual A/C with the 3 control knobs as does mine.

So same system 9 years apart.

I don't want any screens touch or not - but it's not my car and I don't suppose the car would run without the "infotainment".

I remember when we had a insurance car years back (new not old unfortunately) DS it had ambience cabin lighting, I knew then modern cars would never be for me again. 😄

@nta16 I wouldn't think a mirrored windscreen or front windows are legal in the UK as the driver / occupants can not be seen by Officers of the law. I was speaking rear of Rally Cars.

The 70% of visible light (VLT) thing seems to be something that is not policed.

There is no shortage of vehicles on the road with the 'Chameleon tint' windscreens though.

No idea about the VLT and the fact the driver can not be seen from head on.

There are Tinters / wrappers advertising Legal Chameleon tinting.

Yeap I realised you meant rally cars but as you say there are a few pretend rally cars on the road with these orangy tint reflective windscreens bit like those that have the seat so low their buttocks must be kissing the carpet and their nose on the steering wheel, lowering the centre of gravity of heavy old buses like Golfs.

When we were lads I knew one that used to sit on cushions on the drivers seat, he looked taller than he was, don't know why as he didn't need much of an excuse to get into a fight at any time but it did look funny to us following behind him each in our own cars. Until we all couldn't afford to put £1.50 of petrol in each of our cars at a time and started sharing driving and passenger seats (cushions not allowed) 😄

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On 15/06/2025 at 18:23, Scorpiodan said:

...My wifes car has manual A/C with the 3 control knobs as does mine. Wasn't keen on the other system where you have to go into the infotainment system if you want to take control. Had one like that and don't rate it personally.

Based on your first BRISKODA forum posting, this seems to be the 4th Fabia you've owned since 2013, including a 2022 SE L.

I don't think you've said which model you now have, but as the air-con has 3 control knobs, I'm guessing it's a "Colour Edition" with the controls as shown here

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The Fabia SE L model's air-con's control will have involved the car's infotainment screen and is decidedly 'fiddly', but - if that car's air-con met your requirements for cool air and that's not the case with your present Fabia - as your Skoda dealership is prepared to investigate the issue further, it would be sensible for you take up their offer.

I dislike my 2024 Fabia SE L's air-con (the system gets general criticism for its complexity) and it lacks the rapid reaction of my 2009 Roomster's simple 3-knob air-con when the temperature is altered from hot to cold and vice versa. But my Fabia's air-con will blow cold air when the temperature is turned right down and the controls are appropriately set.

I doubt that the issue with your current 2024 Fabia relates to the cabin (pollen) filter, but it would still be worth checking the filter for cleanliness. Gaining access to the filter was detailed (by me) within this thread.

This thread may also be worth reading

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2 hours ago, DerekU said:

I doubt that the issue with your current 2024 Fabia relates to the cabin (pollen) filter, but it would still be worth checking the filter for cleanliness.

I very much doubt it too, I referenced the filter type and its cleanliness (and cleanliness of surrounding area , vent/pipe/hose/cavity/chamber/wotever) in relation breathing difficulties.

2 hours ago, DerekU said:

Gaining access to the filter was detailed (by me) within this thread.

I'd forgotten that, thanks for putting the link up to the threads, I'll take a look and see if the VW example in the Mann filter leaflet matches up.

ETA: your first link seems a little off did you mean - https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/516188-fusebox-opening-on-mk4-fabia/#findComment-5847128

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Hi Dereku. Thank you for your suggestion of going back to dealership, after a lot of thought I have decided to call them tomorrow to get it booked in. I did like the idea of set and forget climate control on the 2022 sel but in reality It didn't work very well as you said. But if I did put it on low instead of a specific temperature it was mighty cold, didn't need to leave it like that for long at all.
Yes I've had 4 Fabias and my wife has one ,I'm a bit of a fan. Plenty to like about the car for me personally.
Yes forgot to say my current fab is a se comfort dsg. Same manual AC as colour edition. Have had a bit of a thought. I'm not able to select drive modes as such In.  the infotainment screen but if using D1-7 it does have coasting/eco message when not accelerating or braking.  If in S1-7 or manual shifting it disables this feature. Just wondering if  this could have any effect on AC, some cars it does. It even read it  in a manual for a car I drove that AC wouldn't work to it's full capacity when eco mode selected. Look forward to your thoughts.

This recent forum thread discussed Fabia Mk 4 cars with DSG transmission and 'driving modes'.

As you've said, when in 'normal' mode (D1-D7) the car will coast (D), but coasting will not occur when the driver has moved the DSG's gear selector-lever to 'sport' (S1-S7) or 'manual' (M1-M7).

The difference between my own DSG-equipped Fabia and the car owned by Diermot (who initiated the earlier discussion) was that his car apparently displayed ECO on its instrument-cluster when the car began to coast, whereas my own car's instrument-cluster just shows D instead of D7 or D6. (This difference was never resolved.)

While there's no doubt that the Fabia's DSG's coasting capability is a fuel-saving feature, coasting does not take place for very long and, even when it's happening, the car's motor is still running at around 1000rpm.

Some cars have multiple driving modes (eg. the Hyundai i20N has ECO, NORMAL, SPORT or TRACK) with the ECO mode applying a range of fuel-saving measures that may include reducing the air-con's cooling output. But the Fabia's D1-D7 is its normal 'mode' and it would be very peculiar if the air-con's maximum cooling were only available when the car was in sport or manual mode (and there's nothing in the Owner's Manual to suggest that's the case).

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Yes it would be strange. Just trying to find a quick easy fix.

The eco symbol appears on mine, But if I have display to show mpg it says coasting.

@Scorpiodan unexpectedly today I got to drive my wife's Fabia 2015 and I took the wall thermometer we've had on the hall wall for about 30+ years, it not laboratory standards and annually certificated but seems about right. On two tests, VWŠkoda dash sez outside temperature is 27C (usually about 2C above real world after it has settled from it's initial widely high reading, just imagine if other the other VW computer systems relied oh this, oh dear, they do(?)) with air-con on, to dash face vents, blower on speed two, thermometer resting directly against central vents and thermometer reads 7C.

Real world, not VW sensor, say its 25C, so a drop of 18C with thermometer resting directly against central vents.

On the return journey my wife driving I in the front passenger seat holding the thermometer just above the top front edge of the middle of the seat, sun shining in, thermometer shows 34C, part of the journey my wife had the HAVC to her own settings as we're individuals with different idea and mine being for the most part wrong after 48 years.

Bear in mine, thank gawd, we don't have Climotronic or wotever it is, and a 2015 model not 2024 (perish the idea)..

Make of this information as you will or like.

No report tomorrow as this is it.

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I think it shows your a/c works better than newer ones.

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