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Buying advice: First car, Octavia estate.

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Car won't be used for commuting, but otherwise has two fairly opposite use cases. One is shorter trips (10-15 minutes) to the gym, occaisional shop, about town sort of stuff, maybe 6-7 times a week. The other is longer trips at the weekends for mountain biking (2-3hrs each way, give or take, and bike fitting inside the car would be a major plus). Figure I'll be somewhere in the region of 10k miles a year. The car needs to be an auto, and with all that factored in an Octavia estate feels like it fits the bill perfectly, albeit some slight concerns about the size for a first car.

I'd initially set a budget of ~£5000 (I'm in my mid 30s, so I'm not after a complete banger). I think this has proven to be tricky, so that's been incrementally increasing to broaden the pool (We're currently around £7k). Thing is I'm lacking the expertise of you kind folk to help sort the wheat from the chaff, what is important on these cars and what is just superficial, what sort of mileage I should be walking away from, etc (I'm doing constant reading, but I think at this point a direct post would be helpful).

Given the intended journeys I've been proceeding under the assumption that the 1.4 TSI will be the shout, but perhaps with the longer journeys to break them up the 2.0 TDI would also be fine? There is the occaisional higher mileage 1.5 TSI that creeps in around this price also, but I don't know if ~120/130k is too high to be starting my journey with that car? It would be lovely to get a facelift mk3 to get some of the comforts that came with them, such as Android Auto/Apple carplay. Parking sensors would also be great.

TL:DR - what should my expectations be for ~£7000? What can look scary with these cars in this price range that I shouldn't really worry about, and what should I be worried about?

Hello, welcome to the forum.

You probably wouldn't see any significant difference in running costs between either fuel with your projected use, I'm rather biased towards the 1.4TSI because that's what I've had since 2015.

Anything from around 2019 - 2021 will probably have had the cambelt replaced already, following incorrect advice from Skoda UK - that service item is significantly more expensive with the 1.5TSI.

I've always thought it a little odd that the 1.5TSI engine should have exactly the same power output as the 1.4.

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Hi, welcome.

If you are set on buying an Octavia estate then, in case you've not already seen, there are the various model years forums on this site where there will be knowledgeable and experienced owners of those models able to give you advice and knowledge, and, unless "fan-boys", real warts 'n' all information. - Škoda Octavia section. - https://www.briskoda.net/forums/forum/169-%C5%A1koda-octavia/

Strange though it might sound looking at the 'Owner's Manuals' before test driving or considering buying a car can be very helpful, also very helpful through all stages of ownership to help avoid unnecessary visits to garages, mechanics and auto-electricians. The manuals are available free as pdf downloads from the VWŠkoda owners manual website. - https://www.skoda-auto.com/apps/manuals/Models

Personally I would look at older models in good condition for the money but as you're in your mid-30s you may want the more up to date stuff in the car (and more to, and can, play up), also depends on your driving experience, if you have little then it's more likely that you may have dinks, bumps and accidents (hence the higher insurance premiums) and less real experience of driver maintenance and servicing maintenance of the car. The shorter trips will cause more wear on some systems, components and parts than the longer trips, hence a higher mileage car often possibly a better buy than a low mileage car.

With German marques in particular, like VW, and more so with their stop/start I more so than usual suggest you check and have the 12v battery in a good state of charge and health and keep it that way. Sometimes/often just driving the car may not be sufficient for long term reliable use of the battery particularly as the stop/start system charges to only 80% so occasional as required recharges using an appropriate battery charger maintainer, following the instructions from the car's 'Owner's Manual' and for charger, are required. Otherwise the battery can get too low for the car's computer systems and they can throw up all sorts of unexpected issues, warnings and unseen error codes. This can happen even though the headlights seem bright enough and well, well before the engine has difficulty or wont start, the engine not starting often means the battery is very low indeed. Lots and lots of threads about this on Briskoda from those that don't know or realise about about this. Batteries can go low in summer as well as winter.

A point of view you're very unlikely to encounter elsewhere on the site, personally I'd probably never buy a VW product (unless it was a something last century Golf Mk1 GTi) but instead buy an older better non-German marque, usually Japanese or possibly Korean if well looked after, even French.

If you need general advice on first car purchase and initial running there are threads and posts in various models sections on Briskoda, whilst the detailed specifics may vary from model to model, though many share same VW engines, VW gearboxes and other stuff obviously, the basics remain the same regardless of marque, model and great extent year.

Good luck with whatever you choose.

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  • 2 months later...

Hi there,

if you did not make the purchase already. here a few thoughts on your questions:

  1. Short journeys means you should avoid the diesel, you should stick with the petrol, due to dpf issues and engine running temperature. Also worth considering this from an access to city centers perspective.

  2. On long journeys, if you drive normally, the petrol will take a bit more than a diesel, but is no longer the difference from 10-15 years ago. Also, considering the mileage you mentioned per year, petrol makes all the sense.

    1. I quite enjoy Scottish car clan on Youtube, you can check his videos and try to find something you like, Skoda or otherwise. There are also a few videos on the Internet with what to look at when buying a previously owned vehicle, but here are a few things to keep in mind:

      a. check the history of the vehicle (carvertical or similar);

      b. go to a garage you choose (not the seller) and ask for an inspection - it will cost you far less than buying a lemon;

      c. try to find a vehicle with good historical maintenance, bills, etc;

      d. try to find an old seller, usually old people keep their cars in a garage and take care of them, while driving normally / not abusing their car;

      e. have a good look at the car's consumables, especially tires - if those are the cheapest you can find, old and cracked, better walk away;

      f. look at the way the car is cleaned - seats, floor, covers, trunk - it is ok if it's used, but if it looks very dirty, that is usually a red flag;

      g. have a look in the trun under the floor and under the bonnet, check if there are any traces of work on the body of the car;

      h. have a sock and a magnet - put the magnet in the sock and put it on the car - where should be metal, it shoudl stick;

      i. check the car in very good light, clean, dry.

I hope it helps.

Cheers!

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