I wanted to do this many years ago but always something was happened and i was delay it but this year the time came for this, i will install a magnetic oil drain plug to have some extra protection ''just in case''.

There are many of them in the market, some fancy from aluminium (i don't trust them)

some stainless etc

but wanted to do something by myself so i bought one from a Skoda parts shop

send it to a metal-repair shop which has a lathe machine

because in my mind i had the idea to implant a neodymium magnet which is very strong.

Not just any magnet or any neodymium magnet.

Standard Grades (N-series): Safe to use up to 80°C.

M: Up to 100' C

H: Up to 120' C

SH: Up to 150' C

UH: Up to 180' C

EH: Up to 200' C

AH: Up to 220' C

Temperature Effects on Neodymium Iron Boron, NdFeB, magnets

https://e-magnetsuk.com/introduction-to-neodymium-magnets/temperature-ratings/

Neodymium Magnet Curie Temperature: What You Need to Know

https://www.magfine.ca/blogs/general/neodymium-magnet-curie-temperature-guide

I ordered a set from the last category.

I wanted it to stand out a lot, not just a little bit and a put some JB Weld epoxy glue (Temperature resistant up to 300 ° C ,Water resistant and steam test, Resists oils, acids and chemicals) in the bottom.

Here is the final result:

I will install this in the next oil change which means in few weeks hopefully with no issues.

By the way, the washer is too tight so not removable. 😎

That sump plug combination appears to be the same as the one fitted to my wife's 2015 Fabia Mk3 1.2 TYSI engine (febi 402781653740) VW(?) N 90813202, if so you can cut the trapped washer off and possibly use washer N01308157.

I know you will without need of telling check and cross reference this information yourself in case I, VW or others have balls'd-up this part information.

Edited 2 March2 Mar by nta16
wrong code

13 hours ago, nta16 said:

and possibly use washer N1308157.

I think the code is: N0138157

eBay

5 PCS Crush Washer Oil Drain Plug Gasket N0138157 Fit Fo...

OE Part# N0138157 n0138157. Volkswagen Audi.

The weird that some give as washer a Copper one.

54 minutes ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

I think the code is: N0138157

Yes, sorry, as per the photo I put up on which I put the correct code.

56 minutes ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

The weird that some give as washer a Copper one.

Well VW go from flat washer to o-ring type washer in that photo. When I was trying to find and confirm the info on the sump plug and washer for my wife's 2015 Fabia Mk3 it was the usual VW nonsense with part numbers and what was appropriate. Apparently VW have it that N90813202 is what is fitted at the factory and at first oil change N90288901 and N0138157 probably so that they can charge you the excessive prices for two parts instead of one using the excuse that it's about saving materials and the environment by only having to replace the washer next time. However, next oil change they still charge for a new plug as well as the washer not mater what they actually use (probably just N90813202).

Some drivers say that they change the washer every single time the do oil change?

Isn't this an exaggeration?

On the other hand i have seen employees in oil-change stores go inside to the parts shelf (supposedly) to take a new washer and come back in a second which means they lie to the customer.

I heard no sound plus they keep their hand with the drain plug + washer in the same low position coming out (as they go in) without showing the new washer of showing fitting it to the drain plug.

If you have a new washer available why wouldn't you use it. Perhaps if you have one of the old copper washers you might just turn it over but that's a bit of a risk too. Or anneal it but that's a lot of effort and would only be used if that was the only washer you had.

Crush washers, copper or whatever, are only designed for one use so should be replaced each time.

What lazy, sloppy, untrustworthy paid workers in the motor trade do is one thing but if you are doing the work yourself you want to do the work once and not have the possibility of leaks so why take chances, the washers used to be very inexpensive now of course is a different matter but buying them in packs of x-number can work out a lot less expensive.

Ι have many Copper washers (have use them in the past in extra oil pressure gauge) and some stores sell washers with a kind of ''O-ring'' inside like this

ΡΟΔΕΛΑ ΜΕΤΑΛΛΙΚΗ 14mm ΜΕ ΛΑΣΤΙΧΟ JBM

Το πιο Πλήρες Κατάστημα για το Αυτοκίνητο

But i don't know if i use them.

IIRC they look like ones possibly used on Fords, personallly I would throw them away, unless the middle bit is plastic and then I might use them on something not to important but not for engine sump plug use.

Some parts shop sell that washer about 1,5 euro because ''is better than the simple ones". 😄

If they are manufactured correctly with correct reasonable quality materials then I am sure they are good but this is modern times, were these genuine OE parts, would storage aging have effected them at all. Personally if not OE and/or rubber inner part then I would bin them personally or recycle or use them on something that doesn't matter or as a spacer washer perhaps - just not on your engine as you would be very unhappy IF they leaked. Someone else might be less critical about them if so they can have them.

€1.50 - that's what happens when something like this is packaged and sold individually, be interesting to see how much a box of 1,000 would cost.

Febi Bilstein OSP-24359 has 0,50 €

I have seen many times the driver to say ''i want a new washer'' and the employee supposedly go back in the rack to take a new washer but: no sound heared, didn't fit the new washer in front of the customer plus when come out they had the oil drain plug in their hand lowered close to the body hidden with their palm (in puspose so the customer won't pay attention and realise the scam).

Many times when the customer isn't present in the bill they charge him for a new washer although they install the old one up-side down...Crooks !

I went for the engine oil change, all the effort and expenses to have a magnetic drain plug was a

The thread didn't fit was much smaller so i had to installa back the old one (the copper washer was in good condition).

I'm very angry, i lost time and money and the damned parts store site insisted that the thread is 14x1.5.

https://kritosparts.gr/SKODA-FELICIA-II-(6U1)-01-98-06-01-1.3-AMH-(68hp)-01-98-06-01/Tapa-karter-ladiou/m106_a4075_t11193_r593_v2

The original was much shorter in height from that that i provide to the ''oil change'' guy and as i was i had no time to go to a parts store.

This is madness !

https://www.trodo.com/oil-drain-plug/skoda-felicia-i-6u1-1-3-50kw-19838-cid

This is the correct for my car:

https://www.skoda-parts.com/spare-part/n0161632-oil-drain-plug-m22x1-5-czech-republic-oe-producer-11333.html

N 016 163 2

22x1,5

🤬

Just the usual difficulty of pinning down exact and correct part numbers and the confusing information and misinformation in conflicting suppliers databases including very probably VW's.

This is why I always put you have check, double check, and cross reference any information you get from any source with other (hopefully) reliable sources and, if you can, compare new part(s) to old and how well or not the new part(s) might fit but also bearing mind the part already fitted may not be correct, or fully correct, even if it is, or appears to be, working.

Very annoying but not the end of the world, at least the wrong part didn't leave your car out of action and was soon sorted.

I note that your link has it as "Gearbox screw plug, oil pans." - my table show M22 needs a 32mm spanner / socket which seems large for a engine oil sump plug, did the oil change guy use a 32mm socket on your existing engine drain plug or can you try a 32mm socket on the existing engine drain plug yourself or measure the head of the plug in anyway to confirm.

Edited 7 March7 Mar by nta16

16 minutes ago, nta16 said:

you try a 32mm socket on the existing engine drain plug yourself or measure the head of the plug in anyway to confirm.

I will but it's difficult, i had to lift the car in a jack in a repair-shop.

https://www.getparts.gr/skoda-felicia-1998-2001-1300cc-68ps-1998-2001/tapa-karter

https://www.maxxparts.gr/antallaktika-aytokiniton/tapa-karter-100491/skoda/felicia-ii-6u1/1-3-AMH-68hp

Everyone gives m14x1,5 except the CZ store which in the right guy.

Unfortunately i was not in my usual repair-shop, there the mechanic could wait to take the old as an example and go to a parts store to take the same.

Now i have to wait for 7.000 Km to make the change and put a new one because the original is abused.

First link doesn't work for me.

Specialist suppliers often have more detailed information than general suppliers that get databases from here there and everywhere with often errors and omissions copied from past lists and more errors made by merging lists. A lot of the problems come from manufacturers giving the same part different codes / part numbers to different applications where the same part can be sold for more money just by putting it in a bag with a different brand label. The VAG Bentley will have lots of (plastic and other) parts under the metal sheets with Aldi Audi VAG on them out of sight of the Bentley owner but I bet they are not sold at Aldi Audi VAG prices.

5 hours ago, nta16 said:

First link doesn't work for me.

Ιt's from another VAG part store site which gives for Felicia only M15x1,5 oil drain plugs.

I wonder how many other driver's ordered and paid for a wrong item like me?

I did think it a little odd that it was the same sump plug as a 2015 Fabia but a lot VW stuff is basic stuff from their past.

Just looked at the febi Bilstein catalogue and that shows their (N 902 889 01 | N 016 155 2 | N 016 155 4 | N 912 889 01) - 03272 - Oil Drain Plug without seal ring as fitting the 1.6 and 1.9 engines but has nothing for 1.3 engine. - https://partsfinder.bilsteingroup.com/en/article/febi/03272

Edited 7 March7 Mar by nta16
ETA: image

Even Autodοc.gr gives the M14x1,5

https://www.autodoc.gr/exartimata-aftokiniton/bidote-tapa-karter-ladiou-15038/skoda/felicia

Another shop

https://carshop.com.gr/tapa-karter-ladiou-swag-32915374-audi-vw-seat-skoda-m14x1-5.html

SKODA

32915374

N 908 132 02

This is outrageous !

Autodoc is inconsistent with their list for parts not a supplier I'd use for checking parts

I thought we'd been all through this before, but in case it wasn't here - N90813202 is plug with captive washer from factory I believe, for Fabia Mk3 at least, this is swapped at first engine oil change for N9028891 and washer N0138157 and subsequent engine oil changes then only need the washer changing to save material waste - but Dealership will charge for both plug and washer anyway whatever thy actually use.

I don't understand your surprise with parts information you have been through this a few times that I can think of, why not start you part searches with Skoda Parts rather than elsewhere.

14 hours ago, nta16 said:

why not start you part searches with Skoda Parts rather than elsewhere.

I have bought from it in the past.

Too high shipping rate (3 courier only) so for an item that costs 2 euro the courier charges is at least 9€ so it's not convenient.

But it looks like you can get the correct part numbers at least (well with this part at least) they always look good for information.

I'm sure you do the same, when I have difficulty finding information and correct parts I always record the correct part and suitable alternatives as parts and parts suppliers can come and go or become unreliable for many reasons.

Getting alternative parts numbers, where available, can also widen the range of suppliers and prices, as I have put before the exact same part can be listed under different part numbers or codes, even by the same supplier, at different prices and at different times.

And sometimes you have to search under the alternative use name(s) for a parts - such as in this case -

• Oil Drain Plug M22x1.5 Czech Republic - OE producer

• N  016 163 2 - 002 301 127 A - 005 137 141 - 111 204 690 - 113 004 690

• Gearbox screw plug, oil pans.

Also of course since the wider use of computers and the internet particularly you can look for misspellings and incorrect naming or application of the parts particularly in (data) tables, a part you know fits your (factory original) car may not be in the compatibility list or incorrectly in a compatibility which should not apply to your (factory original) car.

We have enough experience to know all this but sometimes we forget and become too lazy or too trusting, it's all so time consuming for something that should be so easy - such is life, particularly with old cars.

Update: I manage to find the proper size oil drain plug and YES i manage to lost the original photo as i bought it.

I went it to a lathe-machine shop and i bought an AH grade Neodymium magnet.

Use again JB Weld epoxy glue (Temperature resistant up to 300 ° C)

I have to wait for some months to install it,would be when it's time for a oil change.

Hope there would be no problems.