The last time Iswitched mine OFF the bloody switch jammed and wouldnt switch back ON. I had to get the dealer to fit me another!!

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havent tried this but it looks a simple way of doing it

i had a little play with asr button one night. i was racing my brother in his car at one point we both ended up on the front row of the lights. ASR ON! lights went green and we both nailed it! the wheels started to spin as you would expect and the in cuts the traction control. cuts all power to the wheels and it felt like i had stalled it at full throttle which aint possible !! changed to second to try and recover it, but again the tracion control cuts in and lost it all again. i ended up losing to a bloody diesel mondeo!!!!

got up to the next set of lights and my bro was giving it all the biggen coz he had beatten me so i turned the asr off. just to find out like, you know. wll what can i say, now its a different story. lights went green as before, wheels started spinning away so i backed of the throttle a tiny fraction, held it a bit, changed to second, nailed the throttle to the floor again, **** more loads of wheel spin, but i was well infront of him this time, changed to third and just kept going, got to about 90 and thought ****ing hell!! looked in the mirror and my poor little brto was miles back!!!

now that is what this car is suppose to do i thought to my self. killed him!!

so in my experience i turn it off when iam going for a laugh or racing (on private roads of course) at all other times its turned on just because i forget to turn it off, but then if you dont need to turn it off, why bother!!

Now I've had more time to get used to the ASR I've learnt that it needs to be turned off only when getting away briskly from a junction, especially if it's a mad dash cos there's only a tight gap in the traffic.

As others have mentioned on here it's rather dangerous if it kills all power when you're half way across a junction with a car bearing down on you at speed!

I don't agree with anyone who reckons it's doing a better job of controlling the grip than me when I can simply back off a bit (as the previous poster did) and keep the forward motion, albeit with some wheelspin, whereas the asr cuts all power to the wheels causing a bunny hop effect and costing valuable seconds.

This is the only negative effect I feel and it's certainly a lifesaver in wet / slippy conditions in keeping the car under control when I've overcooked it a bit.

Also it was very noticable recently when overtaking in the wet on a twisty back lane to work, in second gear right on the boost - the car usually takes off like a missile but this time it was far more restrained, looked down to see the light blinking away a good 'un:rofl: .

I don't even want to think what could have happened in that situation if the wheels were spinning trying to put down 180 bhp through front wheel drive with my heavy boots!

Matt

Other people seem to be finding it more aggressive than I do; IME the ASR just pegs back the power as far as the front tyres can handle without spinning. Still it's food for thought for a few specific junctions on trips to my mum's place.

Other people seem to be finding it more aggressive than I do; IME the ASR just pegs back the power as far as the front tyres can handle without spinning. Still it's food for thought for a few specific junctions on trips to my mum's place.

I guess thats what the difference between 110 and 180 bhp is then

I turn it off when i want to make brisk progress (!) over bumpy roads. I've a remapped PD193 (grin) and th ASR is much too tame for it after the remap - it triggers in 2nd and sometimes third coming off roundabouts - and I don't drive like a nutter...Tend to leave it on most of the time though as I'd feel an absolute tool if I crashed because I'd been tinkering...

Ok,

I should have turned the damn thing off this morning.

I was almost killed!!!:eek:

I came up to a right hand turn which is across traffic coming the other way. Theres this blue transit van coming the other way. I would have had ample time to get across if it wasnt for ASR. I started to pull across the road, wheels started to spin and the car practiacally stalled in the middle of the road!! I'm lucky the transit didn't T-Bone me down the road 'cause he wasn't gonna stop for no-one!

I think the best idea for this :confused:"feature":confused: is to turn it off when you need to floor it for some reason, otherwise you might be killed!

Simon

I don't find any dramatic difference with anti slip regulation off.

Can't see how it would affect the responsiveness through the gears if it's off,just cut power if its a bit slippy if it's on:confused:

Ok,

I should have turned the damn thing off this morning.

I was almost killed!!!:eek:

I came up to a right hand turn which is across traffic coming the other way. Theres this blue transit van coming the other way. I would have had ample time to get across if it wasnt for ASR. I started to pull across the road, wheels started to spin and the car practiacally stalled in the middle of the road!! I'm lucky the transit didn't T-Bone me down the road 'cause he wasn't gonna stop for no-one!

I think the best idea for this :confused:"feature":confused: is to turn it off when you need to floor it for some reason, otherwise you might be killed!

Simon

:iagree: Great idea to have it on while driving, bad idea when you're pulling out in fast flowing traffic!

Edit - it would appear that most people who have suffered the ill effects I described have the more powerful models in the range (eg vrs) so maybe it just can't cope with the sheer amount of power that's causing the wheel spin.

:iagree: Great idea to have it on while driving, bad idea when you're pulling out in fast flowing traffic!

Edit - it would appear that most people who have suffered the ill effects I described have the more powerful models in the range (eg vrs) so maybe it just can't cope with the sheer amount of power that's causing the wheel spin.

OTOH my TDi has more torque at lower revs, and smaller, less grippy tyres than your vRS, but revs lower, so maybe the effects are more marked at higher revs, or just cos a petrol engine is effectively cammier than a diesel?

is there any body on here that has an octy with over 250bhp that can comment?

how much difference does turning the asr off make to launches and general driving like over taking etc?

by the sounds of it, it seems to be power related. the less power that is being put on the road seems to make very little noticable difference when off.

just a general observation that could be worth investigating!

Dunno really, I think it's mostly related to how well you can control the clutch/throttle relationship at the launch - I find sometimes I get away really quickly using a bit of clutch to throttle, then the boost kicks in and all hell breaks loose!

Generally it's only a PITA when I'm trying to pull out swiftly to join traffic on a main road when there's not much of a gap (and I've already been waiting ages before anyone says I'm impatient!!!), sometimes it's fine but as others have stated sometimes it's downright bloody dangerous!

Further thoughts on this one:-

1) I tried my "full boot at 50 in top test" today, in the middle of a patch of standing water, and no ASR cut-in with the new Proxes T1s.

2) A few years back I'd a hired V@*xh@ll V*ctr@ 2.2 (non-turbo, 136bhp), and set off the TC on it pulling out of a junction (similar circ to LJ Matt's last), with no issues about the TC being "overaggressive" so maybe the issue is with the torque rise on petrol turbos?

A year or so later, I'd an Octy Ambiente TDi doing the same journey, and it wasn't quite as fast to accelerate, but was quicker overall, due to someone having remembered to supply a mechanical connection from the front wheels back to the steering, so I could place the car better and therefore go faster on anything with corners, and was only using about half the fuel to do it!

I used to drive a car with a tendency to break traction at the slightest over-throttle, so that ASR-off fits in well with my habits....

With the ASR off (and the car tending to break traction under full-throttle on bumpy roads, etc.), I wonder what the effect on tyre wear is - significant I would imagine.

I think there is a great little line in the owners manual that is appropriate for this, that goes something like "ASR will not let you overcome the laws of physics",

As others have said i hate the system my right foot can react quicker than that computer. It does tend to help a little in the higher gears but the first few it's seems to struggle.

Never switched it on!

I don't find any dramatic difference with anti slip regulation off.

Can't see how it would affect the responsiveness through the gears if it's off,just cut power if its a bit slippy if it's on:confused:

nope.. it cuts in way too early, way too aggressively - once it's cut in it takes an age to return to normal operation, nothing "smooth" about the operation at all, just turns the engine off until it's happy again in effect.

Saying that, at least we can turn it off - I had a Saab Carlsson and that had full-time TCS that you couldn't turn off, and it was way worse than the Octy, almost impossible to drive in the wet :(

is there any body on here that has an octy with over 250bhp that can comment?

how much difference does turning the asr off make to launches and general driving like over taking etc?

by the sounds of it, it seems to be power related. the less power that is being put on the road seems to make very little noticable difference when off.

just a general observation that could be worth investigating!

due to a duff sensor, my brother hasn't had asr/esp working in his octavia for ages and never has any probs with full-on launches, pulling out of junctions/onto roundabouts, overtaking etc etc...even in the wet

Never switched it on!

it's always on until you turn it off

i am fairly sure that ASR has no affect what so ever on the power output of the car or the throttle response as its just traction control not a sports mode.

pretty much the only time mine is off through choice is when i want to launch my car but that might not be necessary now

I agree with Bengie on the not having any effect when driving.

The only time it gets switched off now is when joining or crossing nsl traffic (which I do every night on the way home from work) and then I switch it back on again.

Other than that I have been known to turn it off when showing people what happens when I floor it coming out of a local roundabout going up over a flyover from first to second - with it on there's a serious lack of power after changing gear, with it off the wheels light up like a christmas tree :rofl: .

When I started this thread and poll I didn't really understand what ASR did, have learnt a lot since but I'm still surprised it keeps getting bumped back up .

the thing is if you do a really heavy quick shift then you would normally make it wheel spin but with ASR turned on this prevents the whels spin by cutting for a couple of seconds, if you were to simply for a smoother gear change then it will probably be fine, faster and a lot smoother

or just get a 4x4

ASR takes the skill element out of driving, and in turn produces "worse" drivers. The only time your ASR would ever cut in, is if you - thats YOU, not the car, had given it too much throttle and your wheels were going to spin.

Lets set the scene: You're stopped on a main road, indicating to turn right and the road is wet/slippery. The traffic is fairly heavy, but you manage to pick your gap, and as the next car passes your going for it before the next one passes.

And away you pull, only, the damn ASR has cut in, which has put you in a seemingly dangerous situation, no power, in the middle of the road, with on coming traffic - great!

With ASR off, that same driver would most probably have tried to make up for the wheel spin and lack of movement by pressing even harder on the throttle, leaving you in an even worse situation.

The "better" driver would have been aware of the road condition, capable of controlling the power of the car they were driving, and able to pull away equally as clean whether the ASR was on or off

The ASR (or whatever traction control) isd usually on inb my fabia vRS. It doesn't usually get in the way too much, but I think it shows it's a bit enthusiastic when SWMBO drove the fabia for the first time on Christmas day, and had the light on within 5 minutes... Mind, I did say "OK, now floor it and see what it goes like"