you obviously want it badly, just buy it! lol(thats my attitude btw and im poorer but ultimatly happier for it) i paid 8k for a mint condition black one on a 52 plate with 27k on the clock from a dealer, was worth it as i found demand for the car in black to be higher than parkers etc allow for. i went to look at 3 in a week all around the same ball park and all were sold by the time i got there. this was 3.5 month ago by the way.

Have to say that if I could have got a car at what Wisebuyer are saying then would have been a happy bunny! Have had a look at some of the other cars I considered before buying my Octy 110 Elegance and the prices quoted are way too optimistically cheap i m o. If you can get one at the prices they are saying then good luck but guess those prices must be without warranty etc or are not taking Nth Yorkshire retailers into account!

Well I bought my Octy just below the prevailing wise price, retail, as near perfect as possible and in the South East=most expensive? Yes I could have paid 2-3grand more for the same car at a main dealer (prevailing Parker's) price. Fools and their money .

The Wisebuyer data is based on actual prices paid - Parkers etc. is (used to be anyway) based on predicting market conditions months in advance - hence it is (was) often vastly wrong.

Price guides are rarely accurate for 'niche' cars with specialist appeal though. e.g. Parkers used to price 4x4 Cav turbos at

If its not to late i recently sold my 03 registered vRS with 38K miles on the clock for

after new vrs came out (3-4 months) i got quoted a Trade in price over