Well today I changed the turbo inlet pipe, what pain in the ****, it helps if you have the right tools to start with.

My step by step instructions on how to change without using axle stands, all work done from above car.

Instead of using traditional alan keys I found it was much easier to use a reverse type of spanner socket with several extensions and a traditional ratchet thingy.

1) Remove air box to aid access to pipe retaining alan bolt.

2) Remove Alan bolt (5mm) from lower part of pipe

3) Remove retaining clip that holds the big upper hose to the old pipe, and remove pipe.

4) Remove Alan bolt ( 8mm)that secures the metal coolant pipe to the cylinder block. This is essential otherwise you cant get the pipe out

5) Gently ease old pipe from turbo charger and navigate it past all the pipes.

6) Disconnect the smaller rubber hose from the metal pipe ( a pig to do), discard old retaining clip.

7) Remove rubber O ring from old pipe and insert into new.

8) Attach the thin pipe to the new turbo pipe using a new P clip to secure

9) Locate the new pipe onto turbo charger and gently ease on, line up bolt hole.

10) Secure using alan bolt removed in step 2.

11) Secure the coolant pipe agaiin (the bolt removed in step 4.

12) Insert main rubber pipe back into the new metal pipe, and secure using the clip removed earlier.

13) Put the air box back on, reattach all pipes etc..

14) Test.

All went well till the end, when putting the engine cover back on. The magnet screwdriver bit decided it was going to detach from the screwdriver and disppeared somewhere between the alternator and all the belts etc. it bounced off several things but never made it to the ground.

1st drive impressions,

The turbo spools up better than it did before, and is I think a little noisier.

One small observation, I am reasonably sure I can hear an air escaping whistle under gentle throttle in amoungst the creaking suspension. I dont know what that is, it could be air escaping but from where :(

Probably just the 'sucking' noise from the turbo - you can hear it more with the ABD pipe. As you don't have an induction kit (yet ) it's probably just a new noise!

Yes beleive it or not it actually makes the ABD kit louder - obviously a good thing IMHO

Probably just the 'sucking' noise from the turbo - you can hear it more with the ABD pipe. As you don't have an induction kit (yet ) it's probably just a new noise!

Yes beleive it or not it actually makes the ABD kit louder - obviously a good thing IMHO

Could also be a bit of wiring slap on the LAN pipe.

The IC piping goes forward next to the right front wheel. Depending on how much boost you're running, the pancake pipe or something behind it can make some noise. Mine is pretty loud at boost levels above 1bar (I'm runing up to 1.4 bar to redline). It could just be that. I think this noise comes from turbulence in the IC connections.

Speedy G

Could also be a bit of wiring slap on the LAN pipe.

- you a funny man!

Could someone comment about the performance aspects some more. I think it was DaveU who said it has worse response at lower revs whereas at higher revs it was defo faster, whereas Des said it was a lot better overall.

Seems bit of a mixed bag, so is it really worth all that fiddling about and the cost?

Chris

After 8 days of 'testing' I'm starting to actually feel the benefit throughout now - thought initially I had lost a bit low down but in actual fact I haven't.

Just been out for a blast and the car is going like some kind of rocket from planet looney!

I installed the ADB racing Lan pipe doberry first and found this noticably gives better low end pick up.

Then came the inlet pipe and this seems to give more across the entire range, though there does appear to be a little more turbo stall during high rev change ups - or am I imagining. Either that or the fact it goes that much faster makes the power gap between gearchanges more noticeable.

In fact the whole car feels bleeding fantastic these days, but that's because I've taken to using a 1.4 Escort during the week which goes ever so slightly faster than a hibernating tortoise.

Lee

....though there does appear to be a little more turbo stall during high rev change ups - or am I imagining.

Greetings bro',

DV not up to the job? If it can't recirc sufficent air then the back pressure will slow / stall the turbo. Is there any adjustment?

In fact the whole car feels bleeding fantastic these days, but that's because I've taken to using a 1.4 Escort during the week which goes ever so slightly faster than a hibernating tortoise.

Unless they're in the boot of a vRS

Fitted my TIP today....all I can say is...what a bl**dy nightmare.

First of all I couldn't get the electrical connection off the MAF so had to remove the whole housing.

Found it much easier to access the 5mm hex bolt from under the car.........it's a bit tight round the TIP with all the pipes......they must have small hands in Kent to easily sort this from above.

Can't put back the 8mm hex bolt...can't find the hole it came from...duh!

Remove TIP from the main rubber pipe is a bugger...chipped some paint off the front wing pulling them apart.......bugger!

Well put everything back and it drives fine...turbo does spin up quicker. I'll have another go at locating the 8mm hex bolt hole. I also think that the TIP might not be sitting quite right so will have another go tomorrow.

Was going to install my TIP this Sat ....after reading all these posts I am now getting scared... poop!

Was going to install my TIP this Sat ....after reading all these posts I am now getting scared... poop!

Don't worry - if Adrian can do it then anyone can :rofl:

(Adrian - just joking )

Don't worry - if Adrian can do it then anyone can :rofl:

(Adrian - just joking )

You've got to laugh......

Well I reseated the TIP...took about 10 minutes....so all tickety boo on that front.

Spent 2 hours or more trying to refit the 8mm allen bolt......couldn't do it....I just can't get the right angle to fitting the bolt...b**ger, b**ger, b**ger!!!

Back of my hands and knuckles are rather bruised and swollen and hands ache. Bl**dy thing can just stay dangling.

Turbo definately spins up quicker.....ASR activates quicker......will need to do some testing on my private road.

Hope the brakes aren't such a nightmare to do.

Sounds like my effort at merely changing four wheels on my car last night. Some of the bolts were seized and I ended up finding an old steering lock to extend the power of the wrench... Under the hood, the limits of my modding has been in the lightbulb department, thankfully avoiding all gearbox cables

edit: best sign of car modding is those grubby marks on your fingers / knuckles than not even swarfega can shift... One of those "wait for the skin to die and rub off" hand-cleaning moments... I'm currently in one of them.

Was going to install my TIP this Sat ....after reading all these posts I am now getting scared... poop!

Woody,

follow Manny's instructions and you'll be fine.

Definately remove airbox and the MAF housing to give yourself more space.

You'll only need an 5mm and 8mm allen key socket and extension and one of those multi angle socket.

An inspection lamp is useful as well.

I would only loosen the 8mm bolt as it's a real pain in the a**se to put back if you haven't got small hands.

Careful when removing the rubber hose that connects to the TIP...it is a tight fit.

When fitting the TIP make sure it is seated properly all round.....you should be able to get your fingers to the bottom part of the TIP to push/guide it in.

I didn't remove the one shot clamp on the small hose on the TIP...I just pulled it off. Used a little grease around the pipe on ABD TIP and pushed it back on......best to screw it on side to side....it will go on.

That's about it.

Enjoy.

Adrain

You should be delighted - you've obviously got big hands if you had this much trouble with your TIP, and we know what that signifies.

I didn't have half the trouble you seemed to suffer, but then I've only got wee little digits - marvellous for such mechanical jiggery-pokery

Lee

Adrian, refiting the 8mm bolt is a *** but I found an easy way after first experiencing what you describe.

1) Wrap a layer of tape around the 8mm alan socket and attach socket extenstion.

2) Push the bolt onto the socket and it should hold securely by the tape.

3) Get someone to hold a torch pointing at the location where the bolt goes, and then move the metal pipe around till you can see the threaded hole.

4) Hold the pipe still and using your other hand guide the bolt into the threaded hole by holding onto the extension so you can see what you are doing.

5) Rotate a couple of times to ensure that the thread can be taken up, then secure using a ratchet.

Job Done.

Woody, I was aprehensive about doing this job, but it really is simple. it just looks complicated when you first look at it.

Manny,

thanks for that but....been there done that. :(

I had some rope tied round the pipe and to one of the front grill supports....alowed me to lift or drop the connector to get process access to the bolt hole. I lined the connector up fine as I could put the bolt in on it's own fine.

The problem I encountered was that I couldn't get enough leverage to support to wire holder and get a good angle to fit the allen bolt flush.

You've got to laugh......

Well I reseated the TIP...took about 10 minutes....so all tickety boo on that front.

Spent 2 hours or more trying to refit the 8mm allen bolt......couldn't do it....I just can't get the right angle to fitting the bolt...b**ger' date=' b**ger, b**ger!!!

Back of my hands and knuckles are rather bruised and swollen and hands ache. Bl**dy thing can just stay dangling.

Turbo definately spins up quicker.....ASR activates quicker......will need to do some testing on my private road.

Hope the brakes aren't such a nightmare to do. [/quote']

Adrian,

Any results to report yet on the turbo inlet effects, performance and noise? DaveU said low down torque worse (now changed his mind) whereas top end better.

Whats your verdict after all the dinking about and sore knuckles?

Chris

I fitted my ABD TIP yesterday - was a bit of a pain to do.

The biggest problem I had was with removing the 8mm bolt, I broke my ratchet screwdriver in the process! Finally got it done though, well worth getting hands cut to ribbons

Anyway, performance wise - the turbo seems stronger at the top end, low down seems no different, and no more noise than before (had ABD LAN CAI already).

Next comes the dp/cat and cat back - YEEEEEE HAH!

Andy

Chris,

still testing.

Seems to have effected my ASR light......flashes a lot more than before and the car rolls a lot more in corners to.

Roll on KW3s.

Top tip for those about to change the TIP !!!

Check that your 8mm Allen key IS 8mm and not 7 cos otherwise you end up taking up loads of stuff off only to find that you get a bit stuck!

Also - how the hell are people getting that rubber hose out of the old TIP - that thing is really on there!!

Going to have another go this weekend coming.

Not sure if I should mention this but ...I asked my Skoda dealer in Basingstoke how much they would charge to fit the new TIP and they quoted me

Top tip for those about to change the TIP !!!

Check that your 8mm Allen key IS 8mm and not 7 cos otherwise you end up taking up loads of stuff off only to find that you get a bit stuck!

Also - how the hell are people getting that rubber hose out of the old TIP - that thing is really on there!!

Going to have another go this weekend coming.

Not sure if I should mention this but ...I asked my Skoda dealer in Basingstoke how much they would charge to fit the new TIP and they quoted me