BMW 3 series.

2 reasons: Would make the roads alot quieter and most people who drive them shouldn't be allowed a licence.

Fog light drivers

Middle lane drivers

Mobile phone drivers

Drink drivers

Caravans

Drivers that go slow on the motorway so hgv's have to go in the middle lane

Drivers that pull into the outside lane doing 50 right infront of you

Drivers with their wing mirrors pushed in

Drivers that do 30 on 60 mph roads were its safe to do 60 and when you go to overtake they put their foot down and slow down again

Yes I have a few thinks that wind me up big time

Cyclists who insist on cycling on the road when there is safe and decent cycle path next to it.

School buses - usually some 30 year old ex-service bus with a cream crackered engine and only does 5mph top speed and generates a huge amount of smoke and fumes.

Cyclists

Taxis

Busses

Horses

Old people

any kind of farm machinery

the police

immigrants

any one on welfare

caravans

lorries 11.00-5.30 only

i would then be able to drive like an ***

School buses - usually some 30 year old ex-service bus with a cream crackered engine and only does 5mph top speed and generates a huge amount of smoke and fumes.

Sooo true

Since learning to drive in the late 1980s I have always been bothered by Ford Orion drivers. It got to the point where if I saw one I would make careful note of how badly they drove and I would then add them to 'my records' so to speak. Oddly enough I never saw one who didn't offend me in some way. So if there are any still around, I'd have them removed.

I'd also ban, possibly mildly torture, anyone who does not say thank you for letting other drivers through etc. Genuine mistakes accepted, manners cost nothing. Indeed, there is a female driver who may still be driving a purpley Almera in the Bebington area. Two years ago, she could see me slowing down to pull into my drive and she made a point of winding her window down and telling me and my wife to F*** off!

Nasty, uncouth, dragged up, sow. I could go futher!

You know, it's nothing really and quite common, but I'm quite sensitive and it upset me greatly. No it did really....it was the unjustified venom with which the line was delivered. People who have no thought for others like this should be made to take their test again and prosicuted under some law or another that I will introduce once I actually get my way.

Oh yeah, and anyone who drives a BMW because they think it makes them look middle class or anything along those lines. Apparently I'm told, anyone can drive them now...but some people think they are buying exclusivity!

The true middle class buy Skodas of course!

Hard to tell where I'm being comedic/ironic/deadly serious in this post..........

...........Unless of course you are that woman, whos registration I still have. Rest easy love I don't bare grudges!

Thank you for allowing me to get this off my chest everyone!

M

any w1nker in front of me thats goin slower than i am. get the f0ckers off the rd's

:confused: I'm feeling a lot of anti BMW 3 series going down here

I've got an old one (e30) from 1988,I have driven it all over Britain and most of Europe.

I always signal if changing lanes (indicator stalk is well worn!) I try to be courteous and let folks slip in infront of me.

I'm even happy to give someone else my ticket in a carpark if it has time left on it!

i'm not a bad person, honestly:O

however, those grecian 2000, brylcreamed entities known as "Double Glazing sales men" in their e36/46/90 dont do us boys any favours.

funny how the 3 series now outsells the mondeo... must be more p.ricks in the world now, eh!

funny how the 3 series now outsells the mondeo... must be more p.ricks in the world now, eh!

Sadly, yes, and not all of them 3-series drivers :(

Sadly, yes, and not all of them 3-series drivers :(

Amen to that! sometimes I can be found in a Skoda or a toyota:rofl:

Cyclists who insist on cycling on the road when there is safe and decent cycle path next to it.

Well there are several reasons for this.

Most cycle paths are badly placed (e.g. with parked cars on the inside)

Drivers often ignore cyclists in a cycle lane. The fact that you notice a cyclist who is not in a lane is a good thing IMO, you have seen them and an accident is far less likley.

Cycle lanes are often ignored when it comes to maintenance. Road sweepers tend to by pass them, as a result the lanes become full of glass and general road waste.

There was a study done that proved that cycle lanes are more dangerous than roads, and thats mainly for the reasons listed above.

I don't really understand why cyclists are hated. If more people cycled more of the time there would be less traffic, less accidents, more healthy people, a cleaner enviroment, and journeys would be quicker - look at amsterdam, Everyone cycles and there are no traffic issues.

Might have something to do with the fact that in Holland cycling is a bit more common Also a lot of A'dam is not for cars... Also there are PROPER cycle lanes in Holland, that DO get cleaned up, ARE safe to use.

Most car owners use bikes regularly too, so awareness is much greater.

It isn't really a comparison that can be made with the UK in that sense, IMHO of course

My point with mentioning amsterdam is thats the way it should be done in this country.

Cycling is the most popular physical activity in the UK, almsot everyone owns a bike.

If people felt safer when on the roads more people would cycle.

Drivers need to have a better attitude towards cyclists, and cycle lanes need be better designed. If only sustrans were to design all cycle lanes rather than councils :(

Of course it would be nice if we had priority over cars too like Amsterdam, but I can't see that happening

:thumbdwn: caravans!

Interesting...seems 4x4's 'won' as the most likely to wind up the people of Great Britain

BBC - Radio 2 - Jeremy Vine - Vote a Vehicle Off The Road

(the choices link was in my first post.I reckon its just this global warming stuff that means 4x4's are hated,nothing to do with the annoyance factor on the road

Drivers need to have a better attitude towards cyclists, and cycle lanes need be better designed. If only sustrans were to design all cycle lanes rather than councils :(

Of course it would be nice if we had priority over cars too like Amsterdam, but I can't see that happening

Mat seen your reply to my comments and theres a bit of a mis understanding here , I'll clarify what I mean. What im referring to is a local dual carriage way by pass that has pavements both sides that double up a cycle path - they are nice and wide for both cyclists and pedestrians, the surface is fully tarmaced and smooth. Being a pavement it runs along side the road i.e doesnt divert off for miles. Yet you get some shall we say some individual who cycles on the road with cars going past them at 70 and HVG's struggling to get past - however they are only a very small minority. Im not anti-cyclist in fact I spent my all my student years cycling around. I feel though the roads are far too dangergous these days, even though cyclists have the same rights and agree that some cycle lanes are badly designed.

It would have been a good idea to have disused railway lines made into cycle paths now that would have been a great network, but people who run or ran this country seem to have much forsight as a bag of peanuts.

Cyclists who insist on cycling on the road when there is safe and decent cycle path next to it.

OK, I'll bite. What do you classify as a safe and decent cycle path? Most drivers have no idea what state a cycle path is in when they're safely cocooned in their tin box. I was beeped the other week by a woman in twin set and pearls (not that it matters what she was wearing) who proceeded to gesture that I should be riding on the gravel cycle path running alongside the road (for those in the Wirral - that's the multi purpose path that runs alongside Telegraph Road between Heswall and Thurstaston). This was despite the fact I was pegging along at about 25mph and my tyres have 120psi in them. There's no way on earth I'm resorting to a shared use path at those speeds. Besides, it's up to the cyclist to assess what is the safest route for them, not idle onlookers. Most cycle paths are an after thought, anyway. They usually encounter multiple conflict zones (like every house driveway that they cross) that they wouldn't come across if they stayed on the road.

While I'm here, I quite like seeing horses actually. We've got more than our fair share around here. I suppose I quite expected to see a motoring forum position horses and their riders as "getting in the way" and "not paying road tax", it really does make motorists look arrogant.

Dave.

If I was on a road or normal bike for that matter, I would hardly ever ride in the little green cycle lanes next to the road they are just crap

On busy main roads during rust hour I dont feel safe. I find bus drivers give you the least room to.

I feel scard sometimes and I class myself as confidant with good bike control. Feel more scard doing 30+ sometimes with non padded tree's feet from you though.

I for one would not ban anyone or anything as I have found spiritual enlightenment and inner peace and I am at one with the planet and all of gods creatures.

NOW GET OUT OF THE F***ING WAY.

I for one would not ban anyone or anything as I have found spiritual enlightenment and inner peace and I am at one with the planet and all of gods creatures.

NOW GET OUT OF THE F***ING WAY.

:rofl:

OK, I'll bite. What do you classify as a safe and decent cycle path? /

Dave.

One that has a smooth tarmac surface and separates the cyclist from the flow of traffic, and Im talking about busy main roads here. The bypass near to us was opened a few years ago and the paths were made with safey for the cylist in mind, they are quite wide and level, and of course being a few years old in excellent condition. However as I mentioned above you get the very occasional person who will not use them. I dont want to see anyone killed or badly injured and that what annoys me when I see someone do this, Im more concerned for their safety, like I said before im not anti cyclist

One that has a smooth tarmac surface and separates the cyclist from the flow of traffic, and Im talking about busy main roads here. The bypass near to us was opened a few years ago and the paths were made with safey for the cylist in mind, they are quite wide and level, and of course being a few years old in excellent condition. However as I mentioned above you get the very occasional person who will not use them. I dont want to see anyone killed or badly injured and that what annoys me when I see someone do this, Im more concerned for their safety, like I said before im not anti cyclist

I take each and every cycle path on its merits, taking a risk based approach. If it's safer and is pleasant to cycle on, I'll use it. I cycle about 10,000miles per year, and there's only one cycle path I know of that fits that profile and it's the purpose made track between Chester and Sealand area of North Wales (though of course there must be others somewhere in the UK).

Almost all cycle paths that have been implemented by incompetent local authorities have been built purely to appease central government targets in terms of number of miles of coverage. There is absolutely no care taken in the quality of surface and reducing the number of conflict zones.

I don't know one person who calls him or herself a cyclist that has anything good to say about at least 95% of all 'cycle paths' delivered in the UK. I would be very surprised if any committed cyclist on this forum had any support for cycling paths unless they happen to live outside the UK

It just annoys me when motorists try to suggest that as there is the odd cycle path here and there that cyclists should stay off the roads. Though I appreciate that you may not be anti-cyclist, you're not doing people like me any favours by intimating that cycle paths are safer than the road, they rarely are.

Dave.

It just annoys me when motorists try to suggest that as there is the odd cycle path here and there that cyclists should stay off the roads. Though I appreciate that you may not be anti-cyclist, you're not doing people like me any favours by intimating that cycle paths are safer than the road, they rarely are.

Dave.

I can see where you are coming from Im not saying all cycle paths are safer than roads just pointing out a certain situation that occurs and as motorist Im sure you'll understand -

Ive sent you a PM Anyway thats all im saying on the subject otherwise this could escalate into a flame war

With regards to the cycle path argument. In my experience, there are are number of cyclists who seem to take great delight in cycling on the road even though there is a perfectly good path. I used to ride my bike to Uni and I used the cycle path that runs by my house into Birmingham city center, it is well maintained, good tarmac, yet the amount of people I saw every day cycling on the road was amazing. I don't know what paths are like around the rest of the country, but if the path is there, why don't people use it?

Amsterdam isn't a valid comparison, Holland is well renown for being flat, something England isn't. Oh, and when I was there a few years ago there was a massive problem with powered cycles and scooters which belted down the cycle paths (I believe legally) and forced all the pedestrians to scatter.

Finally, my personal choice for vehicles to get off the road is any vehicle that sits in the outside lane of a dual carriage way and refuses to pull over into the left lane.

With regards to the cycle path argument. In my experience, there are are number of cyclists who seem to take great delight in cycling on the road even though there is a perfectly good path

And that's the choice of the cyclist to make, there is no precedence in law that dictates that a cycle path must be used (thank god). Take a look next time you're out in the car and notice how few fully kitted cyclists (i.e. the fairly serious and experienced ones) use cycle paths. There's a reason for that, it's because they don't want to be put into dangerous conflict zones, they've made a risk based decision and have assessed the road is safer and probably faster and have maybe considered the other users of the shared use cycle path (there are so few cycle only paths in this country that it's not really worth thinking they actually exist).

Seriously, I want to stay alive. I actually enjoy breathing and going for a pint and seeing my wife and friends. That's why when I cycle I continually think about where I'm riding, and making risk based decisions. Very very occasionally I'll assess that a shared use path is safer, but it doesn't happen very often.

If you don't believe the disdain experienced cyclists have for cycle paths, and it's not just idol bigotry, do a google and see why we don't particularly like dismounting at every conflict zone. Have you ever wondered why cycle paths often conveniently 'end' at a busy road junction, the very part of the road where we nead the most protection? It's because the council can't be arsed doing a proper job and don't actually care about the safety of cyclists, at all.

Dave.

HORSES!

generally riden by a 12 year old, un supervised on a busy main road.....

why? if the horse got upset the child would never in a million years be able to stop the horse.

I live pretty much on the edge of the peak district national park, plenys of fields and bridal paths about...so why do they choose the road?

is it so they can keep themselves clean? surely a field is a more natural environment for the horse?

end or horses rant

CYCLISTS

why do they procede to the front of a queue of traffic at a set of traffic lights knowing full well that they will then by overtaken by all the cars in the queue 30 seconds later? each passing car has to drive slowly around the cyclist caring for the person on the bike, when infact it's the cyclist fault for being at the front of the queue in the first place.

there are places for things to be done, and times for this too.!

edit: please most cyclists don't even find the correct gear for thier bike to be in. jumping on the pedals to turn them....

end of rant