Would a custom remap delivered across the range with more torque and bhp be possible? Do you lose power figures over a wider spread?

I understand it's drivablilty that counts but just for the pub talk

Well you can make it what you want to as long as you spend the cash. Honestly, you won't get a remap on it's own to give you much more than 170/270 ish reliably. Some people might say they have but the general rule is thats about it. TBH anymore and you have a hard job putting it on the road anyway.

To sustain more across the range your going to need a FMIC which will help the boost range and thats a lot of cash.

Yes it would, although my map took three iterations to get it right. But it has delivered smooth continuous power and a bit more economy, i.e. a better driving experience, which is what we all want.

Where did you have your car remaped? Thats about the best smooth graph ive seen.

Where did you have your car remaped? Thats about the best smooth graph ive seen.

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Where did you have your car remaped? Thats about the best smooth graph ive seen.

It's a Custom Code phase 2 map, done at JBS in Chesterfield.

I have a tweaked generic remap from Jabbasport.

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Based on all info ive read etc i went and got a Jabbasport custom remap the other week. I got 336ibs ft of torque which is:D but i only got 177BHP:(

The power is smooth and doesnt rip your head off low down so my GF can drive it like its total standard. Iam very happy but quoted figures on jabbas website are 179-185 bhp on a custom.

The people with 190bhp have the same mods as myself PD160 air pipe green filter, Forge FMIC and Milltek high flow cat onwards system.

When i spoke to nick at jabba i asked/ said i was disapointed with the BHP figure all he said the TDI's are primary all torque (which is ture i know) but when others have the same mods as myself with a custom jabba remap id like to know why??

Ive PM Jabbaluke asking but iam awaiting a reply but its bank holiday weekend so i dont think ill hear owt till tuesday.

Any ideas?

Based on all info ive read etc i went and got a Jabbasport custom remap the other week. I got 336ibs ft of torque which is:D but i only got 177BHP:(

The power is smooth and doesnt rip your head off low down so my GF can drive it like its total standard. Iam very happy but quoted figures on jabbas website are 179-185 bhp on a custom.

The people with 190bhp have the same mods as myself PD160 air pipe green filter, Forge FMIC and Milltek high flow cat onwards system.

When i spoke to nick at jabba i asked/ said i was disapointed with the BHP figure all he said the TDI's are primary all torque (which is ture i know) but when others have the same mods as myself with a custom jabba remap id like to know why??

Ive PM Jabbaluke asking but iam awaiting a reply but its bank holiday weekend so i dont think ill hear owt till tuesday.

Any ideas?

Id be over the moon with 177bhp, and the 336lbsft is quite a good figure mate.

Wasnt it quite warm last week when u had the map done? The ambiante air temperature will affect the power on a turbo car quite alot.

Plus it will be very interesting to see how she performs at awesome in october

Iam mixed happy. But its not what others have and id like to know why since where running the same mods.

Iam mixed happy. But its not what others have and id like to know why since where running the same mods.

Suppose it can be a little frustrating to see cars with exact same spec producing more power.

Power figures on a diesel IMHO are fairly useless anyway, it is how the torque comes in and holds over the rev range that makes the difference

Also probably better for the turbo. One of the things with the more recent PD injectors is that they max out earlier, not quite sure when it happened, it's apparently a certain serial number onwards or whatever.

Power figures on a diesel IMHO are fairly useless anyway, it is how the torque comes in and holds over the rev range that makes the difference

Also probably better for the turbo. One of the things with the more recent PD injectors is that they max out earlier, not quite sure when it happened, it's apparently a certain serial number onwards or whatever.

i agree i do have a long smooth power curve but the point it why is my car putting out 13bhp less compared to another car running 100% same mods. If iam told a nov 2005 fab vrs car carnt take it due to injectors then thats fine, but i would of thought if it was injectors i wouldnt have a huge 336ibs ft of torque.

Also on jabba's website the typical power of a car running only a green filter and pd160 pipe is 190bhp and 310 ibs ft i admit a lower amount of torque to what i have but i also run a full milltek system and FMIC.

Id just like a true proper answer really. Iam still awaiting a reply from jabba luke so we shall see.

Based on all info ive read etc i went and got a Jabbasport custom remap the other week. I got 336ibs ft of torque which is:D but i only got 177BHP:(

The power is smooth and doesnt rip your head off low down so my GF can drive it like its total standard. Iam very happy but quoted figures on jabbas website are 179-185 bhp on a custom.

The people with 190bhp have the same mods as myself PD160 air pipe green filter, Forge FMIC and Milltek high flow cat onwards system.

When i spoke to nick at jabba i asked/ said i was disapointed with the BHP figure all he said the TDI's are primary all torque (which is ture i know) but when others have the same mods as myself with a custom jabba remap id like to know why??

Ive PM Jabbaluke asking but iam awaiting a reply but its bank holiday weekend so i dont think ill hear owt till tuesday.

Any ideas?

I'm finding it difficult to understand what you are moaning about.

The figures on Jabba's website, of 195, is complete rubbish. No Fabia vRS with a remap, and the simple modifications makes that power.

WW_VRS had a hybrid turbo on his car, and on an accurate rolling road such as JKM he just made 200hp.

It's about right. I wouldn't expect to see much more than that, they are realistic.

The FMIC only adds a few BHP with the correct map, thats all about sustaining the boost and keeping the turbo cool. The Exhaust might add a couple too but this again is going to effect the curve more than the peak. The filter is worth less smoke but you won't get any power gains out of it.

As you may have gathered from reading several threads on here it's not about peak output, it's about how much you have over the largest range. If you still have 75% of your power at 4800 rpm then you will have a much better car than one wound up to 190 bhp but tailed off at 4200 rpm (Which by the way probably isn't reliably possible with just what you have, those people who say they have this power and it runs fine etc..... need to go and visit a decent rolling road and will be spending a lot of money on repairs), it will be an easier, faster and more rewarding drive.

Besides, you will have trouble putting 190bhp down, it will all be wasted. Stop moaning and enjoy the car

I've always though that tuning-by-numbers is a silly business and always leads to these types of problems.

A remap should be used to make the car faster - not hit a power target. The rolling road should be a measure of what the car is doing when under load, simulating OTR driving so the tuners can adjust the map accordingly.

The figures produced are then only summarised as bhp/torque for use when you're down the pub, that's all.