Just out of curiosity what kind of figures does it produce?......what realistic 0-60 and what speeds in what gears?......was speaking to my neighbour last night and he was asking!......i was just shrugging!!......i might be more informed next time im quizzed!!

cheers

kit:)

As there are many figs bouncing about I'd go with the Autocar results these are very accurate - mind you when they performance test them they nearly break the cars in achiveing those numbers & its with xltrs of fuel on board.

Their 0-60 & 0-100mph times I doubt any non race driver would come close.

Also I recall they had a 0-100mph challenge last year (they do one every year) and a race driver came along and he couldnt even get close to Steve Sutcliffs times so remember testers are very brutal.

Or you could easily work out the max speed in each gear by holding the revs at 3krpm and getting a reading of the speedo then divide this by 2 and multiply that by the max revs available - note however the higher 5th & 6th gears will not be able to rev out due to the fact the car doesnt have enough power to do that.

cheers......what do people get in normal situations without spanking the *** out of it?....but still giving it a wee bit of shove?.....

cheers

kit

have a look here (thanks to Stu's excellent web site!) Fabia-vrs.com - Autocar October 2004

"The vRS will do 50-70 in 5.6 seconds, a BMW 330 i takes 6 seconds"

I think you'll like the review!

they also say they got a 0-62 time of 7.2 seconds!!!!! (outside temp was 0 celcius, the colder it is the faster these cars go due to intake temp, I swear mine lost 20 bhp when it was 30 plus celcius outside!)

but In my experiance the average vRS will make 0-60 in about 8.5 seconds....

(as someone else said, a range of figures there!)

cheers for that:).....will print it out and read it later:).......anybody know what speed you get in what gears though?

cheers

kit

Thats the review I had read a long time ago which made me have a first ever test drive in it.

so it does confirm that a best ever run of 7.2 to 60mph which went on to achieve a 23.8 second 0-100mph time.

Thats the review I had read a long time ago which made me have a first ever test drive in it.

so it does confirm that a best ever run of 7.2 to 60mph which went on to achieve a 23.8 second 0-100mph time.

that review helped me make the decision to buy one too... they had it copied out in the dealership! lol...

note: a 7 second 0-60 is generally what they will do when re-mapped.... do you think they could have been supplied a remapped car for exposure purposes?! hhmmm

"The vRS will do 50-70 in 5.6 seconds, a BMW 330 takes 6 seconds"

:rofl:

Bear in mind also that some press cars are not standard production cars either as the Octy vRS press car proved

Chris

50-70mph - 5.6s

If you actually do the test when driving, the figures do seem about the same ballpark i'd say about 6s. The speedo needle does shift especially fast and it's not like the speedo marks are close together either. Especially in 3rd 50-70

at the end of the day thats what it does best. It means nothing in traffic at 10mph tho.... but then the vrs can get 50mpg so getting best of both worlds.

:rofl:

Bear in mind also that some press cars are not standard production cars either as the Octy vRS press car proved

Chris

I was quoting a magazine review, and these arn't MY figures... If you read my above post you will also realise I ALSO suspect that maybe it was remapped...... And I doubt they are just making them up for your amusment, they MUST have been timed using proper equipment....

Not laughing at you Mr Sharky, it's just this article has been discussed over and over in the past and it always makes me chuckle when it comes up. The test they did is akin to the Fiat Punto (?) vs Mitsi Evo Top Gear test where they used 4th gear in both (which will obviously favour the gearing of a town car)..... I have no issue with the time, just the claim it's quicker than the 330i

Chris

fair enough... I just can't get the inflections right when reading something, and not talking to someone! can't say I ever beat a BMW 330 on any real road.....

I've had both a BM330 (and it was quick) - and now we have a Furby - the Furby is just so much more fun in the way it delivers the power (the torque is what bit's about) - and in the way it is relatively anonymous and normally goes relatively un-noticed on the road.

We also run an Elise too - and that is a great deal of fun - but I'm perfectly happy to have Furby VRS fun if SWMBO wants the Elsie for the day.

..... what speeds in what gears?......

The attached spreadsheet shows the gearing of the Fabia vRS. Your car's gearbox code (FJW,FSM or HDS) is on the label stuck to the boot floor, along with a load of other info. If it was built after mid-2004 it will be the later gearbox. And the fly-by-wire accellerator means it can't be asked to do more than 5,376 RPM.

Yes if I were in the 330i I'd slip it down to 2nd for the 50-70 run or even 3rd and still whip the vRS.

But in the real world the thing is if you were already in 4th in the vRS and the BMW in 4th the time taken to change down to 2nd/3rd I doubt would make it quicker than the vRS.

Thats the beauty of the TDI's.

4th at 50mph in the vRS!? Behave! You'd be in 5th or 6th :P

Chris

should have kept my gob shut!!.......thought id nip out there and have a wee drive and kinda see.....waste of time!!.....what i did notice though was little power in 3rd.....came down the slip road in 3rd gave it a wee squeeze and was at 4k revs and only doing 80km!!.....seemed a bit lifeless and not much pull!!......80km is about 50 mph is it not?

kit:)

Chris

Not that i know you but by judging from your posts, i always get the impression you're very much a realist

4th at 50mph in the vRS!? Behave! You'd be in 5th or 6th :P

Chris

Yes very likely and in the 330i at 50 you'd be changing up from 4th - 5th or 5th to 6th.

I think an area where the TDi PD's excell is on the A roads prod and pass and with little noise & little use of fuel. The M ways are also pretty good as unless your always stretching the petrol the TDi's will get the jump on you.

The 330i is a great car and very different - to be fair it should only be compared to the 330d which in itself would destory a 130TDI VAG in every situation.

But then it does cost

so that does sound about right?...changing up from 3rd to fourth at about 50mph?....maybe its just me getting used to a performance diesel!!....have only potted about in diesel vans and the like!!...where as before in an octy RS its 70mph in second!!.....am sure il get the hang of it soon!!

k:)

It kind of depends on the situation/conditions.

When I used to drive the 115DI PD I changed up very early so that the revs in the next gear would always be min 1300-1500 then grow to the peak torque then up to maybe 2.1-2.5krpm then change up.

However if pootling around without labouring the engine Id put it in 6th at 40mph.

The 330i is a great car and very different - to be fair it should only be compared to the 330d which in itself would destory a 130TDI VAG in every situation.

But then it does cost

330d spec

231bhp

500Nm @ 1750rpm with 80% available from idle i.e. 400Nm NICE

0-60 6.7 seconds

155mph top speed - limited

50-75 in 4th 5.0 seconds

Combined MPG 43.

In the Autocar test attached below they quote the 50-70mph in 4th as 5.6 seconds so the BMW travels 5mph quicker in 0.6 less seconds.... thats a big difference.

Fabia-vrs.com - Autocar October 2004

Or against your arguement buy a 204BHP 330d MSport for

330d spec

231bhp

500Nm @ 1750rpm with 80% available from idle i.e. 400Nm NICE

0-60 6.7 seconds

155mph top speed - limited

50-75 in 4th 5.0 seconds

Combined MPG 43.

In the Autocar test attached below they quote the 50-70mph in 4th as 5.6 seconds so the BMW travels 5mph quicker in 0.6 less seconds.... thats a big difference.

Fabia-vrs.com - Autocar October 2004

Or against your arguement buy a 204BHP 330d MSport for

But the thing here is yes your keeping up by chipping it & tuning it however your MPG is dropping and the added stress on parts is increasing therefore reducing engine life.

If you both ran 0-100mph std difference would be 16.9 for the BMW 330d vs 23.8 vRS thats a whopping 7 seconds quicker. However when you see this on the road it may only be x car lengths ahead so not seem to be thrashing you - when it is.

If your doing side by side in the same gear and flooting it at the exact same point you have the issue of the gearing the 330d is very long geared while apart from 6th the vRS & other VAG's are not.

The 335d does 0-100mph in 14 seconds which is only 2.9 seconds quicker than the 330d yet it is a vastly quicker car & this time is for the auto - they dont make a manual....