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Mapping, MPG and other Modifications....

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Howdy,

trading my Octy VRS II petrol for furby VRS at the weekend, to release some cash and because the Mrs only does around 6/10 miles a day so the Octy is a bit of a waste for us.

Anyhow, the Furby is already fitted with the PD160 intake and I'm thinking about a remap.

Who offers the best bang for buck with decent reliability ? within a reasonable distance from Bristol. Also what are 'real world' remapped power and torque figures for a decent remap with the PD160 intake mod?

What difference does the PD160 intake mod make ?

What MPG can the wife expect in stop start traffic:

standard ?

Remapped ?

I'm really not sure if the wife is going to take to the Furby or not, so won't be doing anthing for a while just in case we need to sell it on and get her something else :)

do dealers do that then? part-ex with cash going your way?

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Babbs, yes they will although I'm not doing it via a dealer.

Chrispy, wow thanks for such a constructive non response.

The air intake makes little difference tbh, and with the low mileage your better half does, I wouldn't even bother with a re-map.

If she is driving in town traffic most of the time, spend your extra dosh on cleaning products, as you will need them.

Just my opinion.

ive had 20mpg out of my vrs in heavy traffic.

as said earlier, if shes not doing the mileage then there may not even be a need for a diesel.

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ive had 20mpg out of my vrs in heavy traffic.

as said earlier, if shes not doing the mileage then there may not even be a need for a diesel.

EEK - 20MPG !!!!!! one of the secondary (but still important) reasons for changing is to reduce my fuel Bill (she drives - I mainly fill it up!)

I wouldn't say it's stop/start/nose to tail but around the last 1/2 to 3/4 of a mile definitely is.

She gets around 20-24 mpg out of the Octy II Vrs to and from work - I average 30+ mpg in the same car but don't usually drive it in 'rush hour' conditions.

I thought she'd get around 35 MPG in the same conditions compared to the Octy ???

Did you consider the 1.4 TDI?

Cracking motor for town traffic.

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The air intake makes little difference tbh, and with the low mileage your better half does, I wouldn't even bother with a re-map.

If she is driving in town traffic most of the time, spend your extra dosh on cleaning products, as you will need them.

Just my opinion.

My current company car is a MK5 Golf tdi (105 bhp) so the remap was mainly so I could have some weekend fun in the Furby (if i can find the time!!)

id go for something like the revo with the sps 1, she can have normal mode for the week and when you want the extra shove switch to the modified setting and away you go.

Babbs, yes they will although I'm not doing it via a dealer.

Chrispy, wow thanks for such a constructive non response.

You're asking something that has been discussed to death and then some. There must be 1000's of threads discussing these topics and the fact that you wont search prior to posting this topic up again just suggests laziness. Search for crying out loud....it's not hard. :rolleyes:

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You're asking something that has been discussed to death and then some. There must be 1000's of threads discussing these topics and the fact that you wont search prior to posting this topic up again just suggests laziness. Search for crying out loud....it's not hard. :rolleyes:

It's a FORUM, It's my perogative to ask questions as long as I don't offend anyone, for example by starting a poll on whether another forum user should get a life.

There would be very limited posting on any forum after a while if only 'unique' questions were askable !

I'm sure If I searched your posts there'd be stuff I didn't agree with, but if I (or anyone else) started posting sarky responses like you have here the value of having a place where you can ask questions would be rapidly lost.

Who are you the 'Question Police' , stick your :rolleyes:

It's a FORUM, It's my perogative to ask questions as long as I don't offend anyone, for example by starting a poll on whether another forum user should get a life.

There would be very limited posting on any forum after a while if only 'unique' questions were askable !

I'm sure If I searched your posts there'd be stuff I didn't agree with, but if I (or anyone else) started posting sarky responses like you have here the value of having a place where you can ask questions would be rapidly lost.

Who are you the 'Question Police' , stick your :rolleyes:

:rofl: Nice one.... :D

It's a FORUM, It's my perogative to ask questions as long as I don't offend anyone, for example by starting a poll on whether another forum user should get a life.

There would be very limited posting on any forum after a while if only 'unique' questions were askable !

I'm sure If I searched your posts there'd be stuff I didn't agree with, but if I (or anyone else) started posting sarky responses like you have here the value of having a place where you can ask questions would be rapidly lost.

Who are you the 'Question Police' , stick your :rolleyes:

If only unique questions were posted, oh the joy. :rofl:

We wouldn't spend our time reading the same old stuff over and over.

And I'm not being sarcastic.....that's you if you care to read your posts a little more closely. And the fact that it's a forum as you so eloquently put it, means that the chances are there are others who have had the same questions as yourself in the past, discussed it with many and found the answers they require. Therefore this is where the search function comes into play. The way you worded your answer suggests you haven't even considered using it. Thr trouble is I have a life, hence I don't wish to read the same old stuff time and time again from people who think they're the first to want to remap their furby. :rolleyes:

To try and add some constructive comments to this tedious thread, I'll say that yes you can remap your car, yes it will reduce mpg if you use the power (more fuel being injected = lower economy) but only by a smidgen so I'm told, you will wear out parts faster (engine mounts, clutch etc), the PD160 pipe and filter do make a difference but only if mapped as the extra air is required.

Also, you'll still have more torque than a Civic TypeR either way.

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If only unique questions were posted, oh the joy. :rofl:

We wouldn't spend our time reading the same old stuff over and over.

And I'm not being sarcastic.....that's you if you care to read your posts a little more closely. And the fact that it's a forum as you so eloquently put it, means that the chances are there are others who have had the same questions as yourself in the past, discussed it with many and found the answers they require. Therefore this is where the search function comes into play. The way you worded your answer suggests you haven't even considered using it. Thr trouble is I have a life, hence I don't wish to read the same old stuff time and time again from people who think they're the first to want to remap their furby. :rolleyes:

To try and add some constructive comments to this tedious thread, I'll say that yes you can remap your car, yes it will reduce mpg if you use the power (more fuel being injected = lower economy) but only by a smidgen so I'm told, you will wear out parts faster (engine mounts, clutch etc), the PD160 pipe and filter do make a difference but only if mapped as the extra air is required.

Also, you'll still have more torque than a Civic TypeR either way.

You are being stupid.

Leave the guy alone, he is new. Comments like yours aren't welcoming in any way. As discussed before it is bad manners to just say 'search'.

It wasnt worth you posting, next time if you want to make a non-constructive comment, take a deep breath and dont. As you already said - you have a 'life' so dont waste your time making useless posts.

You are also the only one making this thread tedious.

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In what way is that a non sarcastic and constructive response ?

what I have actually asked is for day to day mpg figures in specific driving conditions before and after mapping. (among other things)

I realise that the more frequently and harder you hit the gas pedal the more fuel you will use.:rolleyes:

I know all about the torque in civic VTI's, CTR's, DC2's, DC5's and S2000's - I've owned them all, never had a single problem with any of them. They are superbly engineered and very rapid, so you have to rev them - big deal! it's a driving style you get used to and they are all cars that you have to drive properly to enjoy. In fact, as much as I enjoy the current Octy VRSII, if money was no object I'd order a brand new DC5 again tomorrow - absolutely fantastic real world performance, clockwork reliability - truely awesome drivers car which would wee all over a furby VRS - sorry fellow furby owners but it would. My needs are changing though so I need pokey with excellent economy - hence the Furb switch.

The CTR is an excellent fast road car - having owned two of em I can tell you that it is torquey enough to make rapid progress without being in Vtec all the time - if you haven't owned one for any period of time you honestly wouldn't know. If you have then you must have an all out attack driving style combined with a lack of desire to change gear if you thought the torque was a problem.

Part of the fun of Vtec engines is 'dropping a cog or two' :D if your too 'lazy' to do that then you'll never understand or appreciate the philosphy of the greatest naturally aspirated engine maker of all time.

Some of the fastest kit you can buy has high power but unexceptional torque - bikes

I can just imagine the Ferrari pits 'whats wrong Michael' - 'the lack of torque means I'm having to rev the nut's of this thing - fit a 3ltr tdi boys and I'll have to change gear less often' :rofl:

And yes I know he's retired.

Having said all that, the Mrs doesn't like high revs so the torque in the furby will suit her.:)

Incidentally your subsequent response was quite long for a thread your finding boring.

Live and let live dude :thumbup:

If everyone searched and not posted stuff that may have been said before, then there would be very little to discuss... might as well archive the whole forum then and close it down to new posts! I would be annoyed if someone just gave a link to a search screen!!

I get around 30mpg in end to end traffic for abut 3 miles then the next 3 miles I get around 45mpg. Just only a fraction lower mpg as my 1.2 16v clio around town.

I think people have said that the pd160 intake and air filter change makes the car rev easier and slightly extends top end power. I can't say this is my own experience as I don't have said parts fitted.

I don't blame you for not using the search tool as your question is more unique than the average ones about remapping the fabia.

I hope some people have learnt from posting utter dribble

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I get around 30mpg in end to end traffic for abut 3 miles then the next 3 miles I get around 45mpg. Just only a fraction lower mpg as my 1.2 16v clio around town.

I think people have said that the pd160 intake and air filter change makes the car rev easier and slightly extends top end power. I can't say this is my own experience as I don't have said parts fitted.

I don't blame you for not using the search tool as your question is more unique than the average ones about remapping the fabia.

I hope some people have learnt from posting utter dribble

Excellent info thanks, so basically around 35 mpg is reasonable ? :)

Excellent info thanks, so basically around 35 mpg is reasonable ? :)

I would say that my MPG has dropped 5-10 mpg after remap. For what reason, I dont know - wether I plant it more often, I dont know.

Still easy to get 55+ mpg on long run, so still very economical...

My economy has improved by about 3mpg since remapping.

I get 52-53mpg keeping around ^ the legal limit on the motorway and mid 30's to low 40's around town

Excellent info thanks, so basically around 35 mpg is reasonable ? :)

my car is standard though. but yes 35mpg is easily achievable.

Went to Alton towers yesterday, 3 people in the car and had an average of 60mpg (long run mainly B roads)

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thanks guys,

it was mainly the 'in traffic' figures I was interested in so that's good news.

I'm hoping that SWMBO will really take to the furby She likes 'punchy' cars and I think she'd really like the extra go offered by quality mapping.

The CTR is an excellent fast road car - having owned two of em I can tell you that it is torquey enough to make rapid progress without being in Vtec all the time - if you haven't owned one for any period of time you honestly wouldn't know.

He's never driven either one. Yet know's more about them than you or I. :rofl:

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