Pulling off duel carridgeway onto motorway - was right on my tail from 30 to 1xx mph, and then blitzed past! Now, my car isn't too slow, and its RRed at over 300 ft torque, as i understood it those Sts only have 148 bhp and about 140 ft torque? and the midrange is normally my strongpoint!? any ideas what the hell was going on with that ST? :eek: :confused:

2.3 duratec?

st could of had a little few tricks under the bonnet as a standard fabia keeps up with them

Easy answer to this.

You can't drive for toffee.

1. You should be able to pi55 over one even tweeked as from your sig you should have a big advantage over it

2. WTF are you doing driving at those speeds on the roads? :thumbdwn:

People have been prosecuted as a result of such posts before.

Not smart.

Easy answer to this.

You can't drive for toffee.

1. You should be able to pi55 over one even tweeked as from your sig you should have a big advantage over it

2. WTF are you doing driving at those speeds on the roads? :thumbdwn:

People have been prosecuted as a result of such posts before.

Not smart.

except you've no clue at all what'd been to the ST :confused: that's like saying a remapped mk1 octy vrs would always whoop a 2.0 mk1 focus...

They can be tuned to 192bhp quite easily.

One of the ford mags has been doing articles on how to tune one of these. Thing like inductions kits to remaps to cam to cosworth inlet manifolds.

except you've no clue at all what'd been to the ST :confused:

I don't need to. It's not a very tunable engine unles you spend silly money, which makes the likely hood of meeting one in a high state of tune very slim.

A remap will give you 165/151, a Zorst will give you about 15 and an induction kit will give you 5.

You could get silly with throttle bodies, injectors, cams etc but it's never going to be a power monster.

It's a bit irrelevent anyway as the original point still stands

I've raced quite a few Fiesta ST's when mine was standard and now with a few mods, standard there wasn't much difference but now i leave them for dead! Either the ST had some good mods (maybe turbo conversion) or you wasnt driving properly!

I'd expect the 2.0 ST Lump to have more power top end, than a remapped Fabia 1.9. Realistically.

WTF are you doing driving at those speeds on the roads? :thumbdwn:

Oh come on mate, maybe doing those speeds is ridiculous, but none of us on here are saints., and I can swear you've done more than that on a public road before too.

I've raced quite a few Fiesta ST's when mine was standard and now with a few mods, standard there wasn't much difference but now i leave them for dead! Either the ST had some good mods (maybe turbo conversion) or you wasnt driving properly!

:rofl: I love it. Everyone on here is a driving god, and can slaughter others when they lose a straight line race. Fantastic...

Oh come on mate, maybe doing those speeds is ridiculous, but none of us on here are saints., and I can swear you've done more than that on a public road before too.

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I am just thinking of a recent Vx220 forum thread that got a guy done...

These forums have ears ....

No Comment (Not now or ever)

I am just thinking of a recent Vx220 forum thread that got a guy done...

These forums have ears ....

Fair enough, but if your really annoyed with someone, don't tell them, and they'll get done for speeding... :P

Not that anyone on Briskoda does over 70 anyway.

I don't need to. It's not a very tunable engine unles you spend silly money, which makes the likely hood of meeting one in a high state of tune very slim.

A remap will give you 165/151, a Zorst will give you about 15 and an induction kit will give you 5.

You could get silly with throttle bodies, injectors, cams etc but it's never going to be a power monster.

It's a bit irrelevent anyway as the original point still stands

sorry, my mistake; i'd forgotten that your word is law

Are you sure it was an ST? I heard the 1.6 TDCi Zetec-S 99bhp is a good match for the Fabia vRS. Maybe that was remapped aswell? Roughly 125hp.

It could of been the 2.3 as suggested which is about 240bhp I think.

Or just the standard lump with fast road cams etc and remap which will be around 190bhp

Can I ask why people think mapping a N/A petrol gives an extra 20+ horses?

I've mapped 3x N/A petrols (all BMW's) and never got any more than about 5bhp and a smidgen of torque. It makes them nicer to drive rather than faster by advancing the ignition timing and making the throttle a bit more responsive.

A mapped ST (2.0 Duratec) will only be about 155bhp. An exhaust will only give you at most a couple more bhp, and a filter maybe 1 or 2 more. THAT'S IT.

You're talking forced induction or a full engine overhaul to achieve the figures people seem to be going on about, raising the rev limit, shoving in really lumpy cams and fitting a 20v head or something. A map, filter and zorst will not turn a standard N/A petrol car into a road rocket.

Now, under normal circumstances, a standard ST would be roughly on par with a standard vRS. A mapped vRS should eat it alive. IF the owner had gone mental and slapped in a charged 2.3 (is this from the Mazda MPS?) then it would be a mental machine. A normal N/A 2.3 will not produce above 170 horses by any stretch of the imagination unless it's a rotary engine or something like in the old RX-7.

Can I ask why people think mapping a N/A petrol gives an extra 20+ horses?

I've mapped 3x N/A petrols (all BMW's) and never got any more than about 5bhp and a smidgen of torque. It makes them nicer to drive rather than faster by advancing the ignition timing and making the throttle a bit more responsive.

A mapped ST (2.0 Duratec) will only be about 155bhp. An exhaust will only give you at most a couple more bhp, and a filter maybe 1 or 2 more. THAT'S IT.

You're talking forced induction or a full engine overhaul to achieve the figures people seem to be going on about, raising the rev limit, shoving in really lumpy cams and fitting a 20v head or something. A map, filter and zorst will not turn a standard N/A petrol car into a road rocket.

Now, under normal circumstances, a standard ST would be roughly on par with a standard vRS. A mapped vRS should eat it alive. IF the owner had gone mental and slapped in a charged 2.3 (is this from the Mazda MPS?) then it would be a mental machine. A normal N/A 2.3 will not produce above 170 horses by any stretch of the imagination unless it's a rotary engine or something like in the old RX-7.

It might not give you 20 hp in the peak figures. But have a look at any remapped Civic Type-R including mines RR graph. Because VTEC comes in at 4,000, rather than 6,000 .... I've gained over 30 hp in the mid-range area, by just lowering the vtec changeover point.

It's not all great peak figures, it's the way you can distribute your power to the road.

People have been prosecuted as a result of such posts before.

Not smart.

i was doing 250mph the other day on my pushbike!!!! prosecute that :P

Now, under normal circumstances, a standard ST would be roughly on par with a standard vRS. A mapped vRS should eat it alive.

Hold on, you just said, that... adding a filter, exhaust and a remap to a Fiesta at 150 hp, won't give you anything more than around a certain HP figure. Let's say 165hp. Reasonable, coming from 150.

165 is roughly the same as a remapped Fabia. There or there abouts. (160-170)

Surely then a car with as little as 5hp, isn't going to eat the other one alive, especially when it weighs a hell of a lot less.

It's all give and take at the end of the day. You think Fabia's are faster in a straight line, ST Owners think the Fiesta's are faster in a straight line.

And looking at standard figures from the Manufacturers, I know which one is faster.

A standard Fiesta ST will go from 0-100 in 22 seconds. A remapped Fabia will go from 0-100 in 22-23 seconds. I'm just struggling to see how a remapped Fabia can eat a Fiesta alive.

Hold on, you just said, that... adding a filter, exhaust and a remap to a Fiesta at 150 hp, won't give you anything more than around a certain HP figure. Let's say 165hp. Reasonable, coming from 150.

For my sins, I know a few Fiesta ST owners and I've seen dynos that show changing to an induction kit yields 9-10bhp...I was sceptical, but I guess it's possible the standard filter is quite restrictive.

But yes, I'm also struggling to see how a Fiesta ST wouldn't be quicker than a Fabia vRS, what with being more powerful and lighter...

Rob.

For my sins, I know a few Fiesta ST owners and I've seen dynos that show changing to an induction kit yields 9-10bhp...I was sceptical, but I guess it's possible the standard filter is quite restrictive.

But yes, I'm also struggling to see how a Fiesta ST wouldn't be quicker than a Fabia vRS, what with being more powerful and lighter...

Rob.

What the? Someone agrees with me? :eek: ~ Friends? ~ :P

What the? Someone agrees with me? :eek: ~ Friends? ~ :P

It's just coincidence...

Rob.