never knew these were about!!...saw them on a programe last night called cops ballifs and something or other!....westminster council use them for tracking cars with outstanding parking fines on them!!....all news to me!!

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ANPR is fitted to a lot of trafpol and unmarked cars too

Chris

thought that was a given theyd be in cop cars but in a white transit van operated by a civvy contractor for the local council!!!.....in one clip the civvy bloke just walked up to a parked car and took the keys from the ignition and said that'l be a grand for outstanding fines please mister!!

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IIRC my local big shopping centre uses an ANPR system to track undesirables roaming around. They caught that gumball killer when he was using his "Tuuat 1" numberplate.

Pikeys have to park in asda and walk across the road instead.

Local tesco's has ANPR, if you park longer than 3 hours you get a £75 fine through the post a few days later!!

So do a lot of mac'donalds, especially at Airports, again with the parking restrictions.

Basically it's everywhere, and I'm pretty sure the technology would be very easy to implement in the town centre CCTV systems that are in every town now, if they aren't already.

The worrying part is not the ANPR but if ID cards are brought in with Bio metric data, would this kind of activity be extended to track people. Very much in the vein of minority report ? scary stuff.

yeh but car parks have used them for years.....trawling the streets looking for cars is another thing all together!!

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My local tidy tip has an ANPR camera watching the entrance.

I saw one of those civilian ANPR's driving around London in the summer with those odd cameras on the top.

The worrying part is not the ANPR but if ID cards are brought in with Bio metric data, would this kind of activity be extended to track people. Very much in the vein of minority report ? scary stuff.

I think given the fact the government has proven many times it cannot hold our data safely or securely, ID cards have been blown out the water.

I for one, even though I have nothing to hide, would quite simply point blank refuse to carry one until such time as I could 100% guarantee that my info was stored securely, and all the time they are using computers to store it, thats never going to happen.

If I was sent one, I'd destroy it.

I have seen them watching cars in the bus lanes around Manchester....

I think ANPR is great. Those being fully legal have nought to fear.

Often, when the ANPR picks up a problem and a car is stopped, other crimes are brought to the attention of the police.

Added bonus is the power to seize cars...these people choose to gamble by not having tax/ins/MOT, then whinge when caught.

Good is what I say!!

I think given the fact the government has proven many times it cannot hold our data safely or securely, ID cards have been blown out the water.

I wish I had your confidence - I think they're just going to plough on regardless of how ineffective and insecure they'll actually be. Wouldn't be surprised if the decision had more to do with the possibility of awarding a fat contract (made up of tax-payers' money from the Exchequer) to a large Labour donor (who'll then pay a huge cheque into Labour's coffers - presumably via a network of proxies) rather than any actual benefit to us plebs...

There are also permanent ANPR cameras mounted on both exits towards stevenage from the A1(M).

The worrying part is not the ANPR but if ID cards are brought in with Bio metric data, would this kind of activity be extended to track people.

Er, how?

I can't help thinking that if the government want to track you, they will - ID card or none.

What's actually going to be on the ID cards which isn't already collected? Biometric data now in passports, photo/address ID on driving license; not sure what else is going to be added?

I think ANPR is great. Those being fully legal have nought to fear.

Although the easiest way to defeat ANPR is to use a cloned number plate which is a bit of an achilles heel!

Chris

Although the easiest way to defeat ANPR is to use a cloned number plate which is a bit of an achilles heel!

Chris

But if 2 vehicles were checked using the ANPR system at pretty much the same time, in different areas, or even different vehicles, then at least it would give weight to the legal owner when they claim to have not been speeding etc. So even that won't be a complete get out. Hopefully it will then flag up as suspicious and that plate keep getting pulled up. They will then get the illegal owner one day.

2 line number plates seem to confuse the ANPR, top tip for ya there!!!

yea everyone buy an import:thumbup: