Launch Photos of New Superb...

[Supurbia]

Ahhhh..... you mean GM's biggest DUD!

Sadly I can't argue with that, but I think the next 5 yrs will show it to be a very underrated car and very popular once the money has fallen out of them.

As for the Phaeton rear, I wish it was more like the Phaeton myself.

Looking at the sizes, the Sup will be 20cm narrower and shorter roughly than the VW.

[George_Couser]

1,4 TSI 92kW 203 km/h

1,8 TSI 118kW 221 km/h [217 km/h]

3,6 FSI 191kW [254 km/h]

1,9 TDI PD 77kW 189 km/h

2,0 TDI PD 103kW 210 km/h

2,0 TDI CR 125kW 224 km/h [221 km/h]

[A/T]

:P:D

[Birdwell L&K]

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm nice.

[RobClubley]

I think it's a bit bland looking

:sofahide:

[dstev2000]

I told SWMBO the rear shot was of the new Renault Safrane.

I got a slap

I can't wait to see the combi. If it's even half good it's a strong contender for my next luxo barge

[skodayouth]

1,4 TSI 92kW 203 km/h

1,8 TSI 118kW 221 km/h [217 km/h]

3,6 FSI 191kW [254 km/h]

1,9 TDI PD 77kW 189 km/h

2,0 TDI PD 103kW 210 km/h

2,0 TDI CR 125kW 224 km/h [221 km/h]

[A/T]

:P:D

If the 3.6 FSI really can do 254km/h thats 158MPH, given that it's Czech will it follow the German "gentlemens agreement" of 155MPH?

[VRS195]

Very BMW 7 series

The other angles look a bit unresolved, particularly the half-hearted attempt at a "hoffmeister" kink!

[johnjohnhealy]

If the 3.6 FSI really can do 254km/h thats 158MPH, given that it's Czech will it follow the German "gentlemens agreement" of 155MPH?

It's never going to have a 3.6 engine in it, lets not get silly now, it's a Skoda.

[Taxi 219]

Hmm.......oversize Octavia front and a Vauxhall Carlton boot lid with Renault Megane rear lights........Yuk!!!!

(I,m running because i won,t be liked now:rofl: )

[limlien]

Its also shorter wheelbase.

[RapidRonnie]

It's never going to have a 3.6 engine in it, lets not get silly now, it's a Skoda.

Skoda confirmed on the press release today that the top engine is 191KW. It is either 3.2FSI V6 or 3.6. Nobody seems quite sure and I can't find an engine with exactly that output in the Passat or A6.

[skisbp]

A quick google shows 2 possibilities...

1st "the S2000 has a 2.0L 191kW/260hp engine."

2nd "3.0 TDI CR 165kW (225PS), 500Nm 191kW (260PS), 570Nm " that being a "Chiptuning VW Touareg"!!!

[skisbp]

A little copy paste from Wikipedia...

EA113 / 827

The EA827 family was introduced in 1972 in the Audi 80 and eventually superseded by the EA113 evolution introduced in 1993. Both share the same 88 mm cylinder spacing. It was later updated with direct injection, to be topped by the 265 PS 2.0L TFSI. 40 million engines have been produced. It was replaced by the EA888 project introduced with the 1.8L TFSI below.

170-265 hp 2.0 TFSI I4

Engine code

BPY (North America); AXX or BWA (Rest of world)

Configuration

1,984 cc water cooled inline 4, based on the naturally aspired 2.0 FSI

Cylinders

bore × stroke 82.5 × 92.8 mm (0.89 rati), 496 cc/cylinder, 10.5:1 compression ratio

Block

CG 25 grey cast iron, 88 mm cylinder spacing, two chain driven balancing shafts

Head

four-valve, low-friction roller cam follower drive, modified inlet duct geometry for high tumble values providing superior knock resistance, continuous intake camshaft adjustment

Fuel system

Gasoline, Fuel Stratified Injection, up to 110 bar

Aspiration

0.9 bar boost turbocharger, intercooler, variable plastic controlled intake manifold with charge movement flaps adjusted by a continuous-action pilot motor

dimensions

652 mm long, 648 mm wide, 666 mm high, 152 kg

Output

177 kW (240 hp) at 5,700 to 6,300 rpm, 300 Nm at 2,200 to 5,500 rpm in the SEAT León Cupra

195 kW (265 PS) at 6,000 rpm, 350 Nm from 2500 to 5000 rpm in the Audi S3 (A5): 9.8:1 compression ratio, stronger pistons pins and new rings, reinforced connecting rods, new bearings, reinforced cylinder block at the main-bearing pedestals and cap, new, lightweight aluminium-silicon alloy cylinder head for high temperature resistance and strength, adjusted exhaust camshaft timing, increased cross-section high-pressure injectors, 1.2 bar boost pressure turbocharger with larger turbine and compression rotor.

aftermarket 257 kW (350 PS), 450 Nm in the B&B VW Golf GTI Evo R

Reference

Audi AG (2004-07-19). "Audi A3 Sportback – In Depth". Press release.

Awards

Was placed for three consecutive years in the 2006, 2007 and 2008 annual list of Ward's 10 Best Engines.

[skisbp]

& now for my prediction (also Wikipedia sourced) !!!

255/260 hp 3.2L V6 FSI

Engine codes

255 hp (190 kW)-AUK/BKH/BYU (260 hp-BPK)

Configuration

3123 cm3 90° V6

Cylinders

Bore × stroke 84.5 mm × 92.8 mm (0.91 ratio), 520.4 cc/cylinder, 90 mm spaced, aluminium block

Crankshaft

aluminium

Heads

aluminium, 4 valves per cylinder, DOHC, 12.5:1 Compression ratio, chain driven camshafts, continuously variable valve timing system both for intake and exhaust

Fuel system

common rail FSI high-pressure injection between 30 and 100 bar.

Aspiration

variable intake manifold

Exhaust

two ceramic catalytic converters

Dimensions

360 mm length, 430 mm width, 169.5 kg (aluminium engine)

Output

188 kW (255 hp) @ 6500 rpm, 330 N·m @ 3250 rpm, 90% available between 1900 and 5900 rpm, 7200 rpm max

191 kW (260 hp) @ 6500 rpm in the A8.

Applications

2005 Audi A8, Audi A6, Audi A4

references

Audi AG (2004-04-08). "New Audi A6 In Depth". Press release.

Awards

Was placed in the 2005 annual list of Ward's 10 Best Engines.

[RapidRonnie]

That sounds like the one Skisbp!

[Supurbia]

I think the size or lack of it of the boot panel where it meets the C pillar is ruining the look of it, it's got a kinda exec look that goes off in to mundane rep hatch ground, have to see it in the flesh to really get an idea.

And I've never been a fan of rear lights that encroach in to the boot panel.

[barts2]

hi lads im new here im the proud owner of an 06 vrs bought it new and wat a car i was goin to but the new mazda6 sport but think il wait for the new superb looks fab 2ltr turbo engine in it wud be great i live in ireland do any of ye no wen its available ?? i red its out in the autumn too late wat do ye think lads are they any prices for it yet.......skoda fan....

[Supurbia]

It's summer I believe.

[skodayouth]

It's never going to have a 3.6 engine in it, lets not get silly now, it's a Skoda.

Did you imagine 10 years ago that a Skoda would have a 2.8V6 or vRS models with turbo'd engines?

I think that it's a realistic possibility to get something 3.0 Litres Plus, the 2.8V6 isn't that fast on paper at least due to the size and weight of the car, and what with this one being even bigger, I think it could happen

[skisbp]

Only one problem it won't fit... The whole transverse/longitudinal thing... The 1 below is what would fit...

250 hp 3.2L VR6

Configuration

3189 cm3 15° VR6

Cylinders

bore * stroke 84*95.9 mm, 531 cc per cylinder

Head

four-valve, two overhead camshafts per cylinder bank, continuous timing adjustment, 52 degrees on the inlet, 22 degrees on the outlet, roller rocker arms with hydraulic play compensation

Ignition

individual ignition coil

Output

173 kW (235 hp) @ 6,200 rpm, 315 N·m from 2950 rpm in T5

176 kW (241 hp) @ 6,200 rpm, 320 N·m from 2,500 to 3,000 rpm

184 kW (250 hp) @ 6,300 rpm, 320 N·m from 2,500 to 3,000 rpm

Sources

GermanCarFans New Volkswagen Golf R32 09-23-2005

applications

VW Golf R32, Audi A3, Audi TT, VW Touareg, Audi Q7, Porsche Cayenne, VW Phaeton

[skisbp]

& for all our doubters here!!! the top line engine now confirmed...

280 hp 3.6L VR6 FSI

This bigger VR6 with a narrower angle will be made available for the US market before Europe.

Configuration

3598 cc 10.6° VR6

Cylinders

Bore x stroke: 89.0 x 96.4 mm, iron block

Head

aluminum, chain-driven double overhead cams, 4 valves per cylinder, hydraulic lifters, variable intake- and exhaust-valve timing, 12.0:1 compression ratio

Fuel system

FSI direct injection

Output

206 kW (280 hp DIN) @ 6200 rpm, 360 N·m (266 ft·lbf) @ 2750 rpm, 12,57 bars MEP, max 6500 rpm (20.9 m/s piston speed)

Applications

US 2006 VW Passat, 2006 Audi Q7

references

Volkswagen Passat 3.6. Car and Driver (December 2005).

Closer to the Q7's 265hp configuration though...

[johnjohnhealy]

Hmm.......oversize Octavia front and a Vauxhall Carlton boot lid with Renault Megane rear lights........Yuk!!!!

(I,m running because i won,t be liked now:rofl: )

See what you mean about the Vauxhall thing, think you mean the Omega though?

I still maintain it wont have anything as big as a 3.6 in it, I guess we'll see when it's released, I think people keep forgetting that it's a Skoda, a budget brand. No-one in there right mind would ever buy a 3.6 Superb, you'd have to be retarded.

I'm sure those wheels look familiar, Vectra SRi?

[skisbp]

Skoda is the "Value Brand" of VAG... Reason it will have the 3.6 is the Passat all ready does!!!

[Conshine]

1,4 TSI 92kW 203 km/h

1,8 TSI 118kW 221 km/h [217 km/h]

3,6 FSI 191kW [254 km/h]

1,9 TDI PD 77kW 189 km/h

2,0 TDI PD 103kW 210 km/h

2,0 TDI CR 125kW 224 km/h [221 km/h]

[A/T]

:P:D

Don't forget the new 155kW 2.0 CR TDi, that's got to be a contender surely...????

That would be the perfect engine for me in one.

[Supurbia]

If I'm to get one it won't be for looks, as long as the DSG is in it and there is the rear leg still, it will get considered as my next one, is this a one only style? by one only I mean no dedicated saloon with a rigid rear window?