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Allard Egr "power" pipe a few observations.

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Following on from My home made egr, i decided to just spend some hard earned and buy the allard egr blanking plate and power pipe.

Fitting

  • Quite simple to fit, tools required 12mm and 13mm spanner, flat screw driver, 6mm allen key and a hack saw. Sorry lads didnt need a hammer, but you could keep one handy just in case you feel the urge to hit something ;)

  • When removing the oem "Metal" from the rubber boost pipe, just make an inline cut top and bottom and split the clamp in half revealing the rubber pipe within.

  • When unbolting the exhaust manifold to egr pipe, be careful not to drop the nuts or washers down the hole in the exhauat manifold....... could be costly :rofl:

Obsvervations on First Run

Amazing!!!

Noticable lower down pull, definantly more smooth power through the rev range. It has eliminated the sudden "surge" at around 2000 rpm that usually occured. Now its just linear power from low down right up to redline.

I honestly didnt think it would make a difference, but it has :thumbup:

Car does make more Boost now.

Before the gauge would show a 1.7bar peak then trail off to a constant 1.5 bar to the redline.

Now the gauge shows a 1.9bar peak and a 1.6 bar pressure to the redline.

Dont ask me how :confused: maybe i have cured a boost leak in removing one less daft oem clip:confused:

I wonder how long my Oem Turbo will last now :rofl:

Only downside is CEL, but will have that mapped out with next re-map and theres a noticable shudder at shutdown. That doesnt really bother me as i knw what causes it ;)

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John

how much that set u back then?

thats not to much

I've been running one for ages, and the EGR fault code is now fully expected when it comes to vagcom scans. ;) Not sure if it can be mapped out 100% to be honest. :)

Mine's not as shiny so I might ask Allard to do me a like-for-like swap using a very bling one. :cool:

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I've been running one for ages, and the EGR fault code is now fully expected when it comes to vagcom scans. ;) Not sure if it can be mapped out 100% to be honest. :)

Mine's not as shiny so I might ask Allard to do me a like-for-like swap using a very bling one. :cool:

Yer, you sent me the link for it ;)

Yup, I know its the egr throwing up the CEL light as when i switch my car on the maxidot tells me its the egr at fault :cool:

It can be mapped out 100% , i know of at least two people who have succeeded with a map of this kind on their cars :thumbup:

Engine bling...... I love it, Just need more of it now :rofl:

Pardon my ignorance,but what's CEL?

CEL - Check Engine Light.

Yer, you sent me the link for it ;)

Yup, I know its the egr throwing up the CEL light as when i switch my car on the maxidot tells me its the egr at fault :cool:

It can be mapped out 100% , i know of at least two people who have succeeded with a map of this kind on their cars :thumbup:

Engine bling...... I love it, Just need more of it now :rofl:

Mine doesn't come on ;)

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Mine doesn't come on ;)

Taking the Bulb out doesnt count :rofl:

The wonders of awesome :thumbup:

Taking the Bulb out doesnt count :rofl:

The wonders of awesome :thumbup:

is that what's been done? :rofl:

I want to try and get it out properly, so when it DOES come on I know it's time to start carking it. :rofl:

No the blody bulb hasnt been taken out :rofl:

Its been mapped to such a high value - the ecu will never see an egr fault.

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No the blody bulb hasnt been taken out :rofl:

:rofl:

Mine doesn't either - I think most true re-mappers realise that this has to be done now along with any map.

I wonder how many of us are running with small leaks in the OEM boost pipework? Since the boost jumps to its max only comes on with the engine being booted - I think the only way to test would be to hook up a compressed air line to the boost gauge nipple on the Allards pipe and test with soapy water.....

Mine feels completely different after swapping out the OEM pipework - must've been a small leak there.....

Can i ask what is this?! Would it benifit me? Sorry for being dumb, but i havent a clue about all this sort of stuff!:(:thumbup:

Can i ask what is this?! Would it benifit me? Sorry for being dumb, but i havent a clue about all this sort of stuff!:(:thumbup:

Look at the bit of bling in the first post. It's that. :) Bit of pipe which replaces the EGR and ASV unit on the vRS. Look at what you have there in relation to the pic. Benefits are no exhaust gas recirculating which = nice clean unclogged inlet manifold. :)

Look at the bit of bling in the first post. It's that. :) Bit of pipe which replaces the EGR and ASV unit on the vRS. Look at what you have there in relation to the pic. Benefits are no exhaust gas recirculating which = nice clean unclogged inlet manifold. :)

:rofl: I guessed it was that bit of bling! Not quite that dumb! (not far off tho!)

If i was to fit this, do i need to do any other mods?

Is it worth it? £50 dont seem much really.

Is it hard to fit for a novice?

Cheers jas

John

Same questions as John, from Numpty Mossman ;)

I am presuming I would have to have the car mapped again if I had the pipe fitted?

Same questions as John, from Numpty Mossman ;)

I am presuming I would have to have the car mapped again if I had the pipe fitted?

Hello fellow numpty!:handshke: :D

Would you need to clean out the manifold really when you do this? Cos if I did this tomorrow, say, I'd still have 4 years of ****e in there surely?

And would it really be worth it on a standard engine? Considering the CEL would be on all the time without mapping it out?

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:rofl: I guessed it was that bit of bling! Not quite that dumb! (not far off tho!)

If i was to fit this, do i need to do any other mods?

Is it worth it? £50 dont seem much really.

Is it hard to fit for a novice?

Cheers jas

John

Same questions as John, from Numpty Mossman ;)

I am presuming I would have to have the car mapped again if I had the pipe fitted?

Would you need to clean out the manifold really when you do this? Cos if I did this tomorrow, say, I'd still have 4 years of ****e in there surely?

And would it really be worth it on a standard engine? Considering the CEL would be on all the time without mapping it out?

I think its worth it, My inlet manifold had only done about 12k and it was already bunged up with sh!te.

I didnt bother cleaning it out as it will be getting replaced soon enough with a nice allard inlet manifold :D

Ideally you would want to clean the whole air system out, including intercooler, joining pipes and inlet manifold.

Easy enough to fit, but then I am the god of clutch swaps :thumbup: so a task like this was childs play :thumbup:

It works out at £69 including PP and Vat. so really is quite good n that respect.

I only bought it as i was fed up of my car munching egr valves, it was on its 3rd valve in as many years. same old problem leaking oil out of the breather :thumbdwn:

Now i Have the peace of mind in knowing its not going to cost me another 120 quid for a new egr valve and my manifold will stay in its current bunged up state till i can get the new turbo etc on :thumbup:

Depends how aggressive you want to get - I cleaned out my manifold after only a few months running - it had about a cm of tarry black goo inside. Extremely messy job - no wonder VW replaces rather than cleans manifolds in the US...

Simple to fit - and with more oxygen (no re-breathing a % of spent fumes) car feels smoother.

CEL on would be an irritant - but the light wouldnt affect power in any way....

HTH

Bas

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Mine doesn't either - I think most true re-mappers realise that this has to be done now along with any map.

I wonder how many of us are running with small leaks in the OEM boost pipework? Since the boost jumps to its max only comes on with the engine being booted - I think the only way to test would be to hook up a compressed air line to the boost gauge nipple on the Allards pipe and test with soapy water.....

Mine feels completely different after swapping out the OEM pipework - must've been a small leak there.....

i dont think that would work, air would escape thro into the bores then, out of whichever exaust vavles are open.......... or would it :confused:

If the exhaust valve is slightly open the inlet valve will be slightly open too :confused: Suppose it depends on timing. But i would bet on one of the cylinders being in a configuration to leak air.

Could make a plate and sandwich it between the allard pipe and inlet manfold, and block the turbo intake pipe with something. that would work possibly.

Might cause more harm than good, subjecting the turbo oil seals to air pressures without oil pressure behind them could be a bad idea me thinks.

Looks good ;)

Just a paranoid thought - based on how my own engine behaved after replacing first the EGR with the Allards pipe (good) and then the upper OEM pipewrok and clips (even better)...

:-)

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