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get the 0-60 time down to low 6's?

Would a chip/remap and a panel filter do the trick or?

I have a mate who has a corsa VXR and he bangs on about how his car is quicker to 60..

supposidly does it in 6.8 in a 1.6 ltr turbo..

I reckon the Octy would be quicker to 100 what with the bigger engine capacity and more torque and it has a slightly higher top end.. but he says 0-60 is where its at...

0 - 60 is pretty meaningless. It's in gear acceleration that is the true measure of performance.

The Corsa is 0.4 sec quicker to 60; so what - it's half the size? It's a ****y little Vauxhall at the end of the day.

Corsa VXR

192BHP

0-60 mph 6.8secs

Maximum speed 140 mph (230 km/h)

Octy2 vRS

200BHP

0-60 mph 7.3

Maximum speed 149 mph (240 km/h)

To get down to the low 6's will need a lot more than a remap and panel filter. The octavia is a much heavier and bigger car. 0-60 in todays climate is meaningless what really counts is in gear acceleration (50-70 for example).

Has anybody got any in gear stats?

Geting the power down is the problem. I dare say he'd struggle to manage that figure.

Panel filters are much over rated. A clean std filter is as good as any so called performance filter. I have seen quite a few monkeys who go on about high tech mods and spending all sorts of money on reapping, only to find their airboxes are so full of dirt and crap its a wonder the engine can breath the first place.

Chris

Corsa VXR

192BHP

0-60 mph 6.8secs

Maximum speed 140 mph (230 km/h)

Octy2 vRS

200BHP

0-60 mph 7.3

Maximum speed 149 mph (240 km/h)

To get down to the low 6's will need a lot more than a remap and panel filter. The octavia is a much heavier and bigger car. 0-60 in todays climate is meaningless what really counts is in gear acceleration (50-70 for example).

the 7.3 seconds is for 0-62 ! so in fact 0-60 would be more like 6.9!?

I managed this last year at GTi International in my car although with the additional modifications of turbo back exhaust, cold air intake, front mounted intercooler and stage II software although I'm sure the car is capable of a little better, but it's the limitations of the driver that let it down! :o

Would hope to achieve better this year but it's the problem mentioned before in getting the power to the tarmac without the on board computer wizzardry interfering :rolleyes:

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Impressive 0-6mph Steve lol:D

why is it everyone says 0-60 is meaningless? i think its quite important myself as a lot of acceleration is from near stop so better low acceleration counts more in the "real world" apart from motorways.

my car isn't too bad at either so i'm not fussed anyway :D

I think 0-60 is important around town but the problem with FWD cars is getting the grip.

Being a thicky here, i'm not sure I grasp the point of 0-60s being important. With respect to yourself Stu, maybe 0-30 in town might be of use (say pulling away from a busy junction where theres only the occasional gap) but considering the conjestion in towns these days I find it rare I can get up to any more than 40 given speed restrictons and traffic.

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Chris

the reason i think the 0-60 is important is for stu's reason but obviously you wouldn't take it all the way upto 60, normally stopping at either 30 or 40.

I think 0-60 is important around town but the problem with FWD cars is getting the grip.

Or in my case, not stalling it still trying to get used to the new flywheel & clutch.... :o Did it this morning with a silver A4 up my a55 in the middle of Leicester. Had to crank it over quick to get it started and she smoked like a chimney with me trying to get her moving again....

I hope I learn how to drive my car again soon.

Best to 60 for me is 6.84 but have done some work, plus it's not an octy 2 so not really comparable. :rofl:

Being a thicky here, i'm not sure I grasp the point of 0-60s being important. With respect to yourself Stu, maybe 0-30 in town might be of use (say pulling away from a busy junction where theres only the occasional gap) but considering the conjestion in towns these days I find it rare I can get up to any more than 40 given speed restrictons and traffic.

Examples enthusiastically recieved :)

Chris

0-60 is a generalised term of acceleration measurment. You can apply the same theory to the 0-30 dash.

In terms of the Petrol Octy II vRS I find that you are a little slower off the mark but once you can change gear and get into the torque band you can ease the gap back.

Being a thicky here, i'm not sure I grasp the point of 0-60s being important. With respect to yourself Stu, maybe 0-30 in town might be of use (say pulling away from a busy junction where theres only the occasional gap) but considering the conjestion in towns these days I find it rare I can get up to any more than 40 given speed restrictons and traffic.

Examples enthusiastically recieved :)

Chris

The best car I've had away from the lights , up to about 30, was an ancient Daf 44 I got for the wife.

It had that peculiar automatic belt drive thingie (the Daf, not the wife) meaning it just kept changing the gear ratio as you accelerated. It could even beat a lot of motorbikes. But after getting to 30 it was mostly a load of cr*p.

I think 0-60 is a slightly flawed measure of performance and to make comparisions between different cars is a bit meaningless.

As already said, 0-60 is more likely to be influenced by the driver's ability and the traction of the car itself (i.e. 4WD AND rwd cars will ususally gain better traction from a standing start).

In gear acceleration, e.g. 30-50 in 3rd/4th, 50-70 in 5th/6th etc, is a more appropriate measure of performance for comparing cars as the driver's ability and the traction of the car are far less important in terms of impacting the outcome.

The best car I've had away from the lights , up to about 30, was an ancient Daf 44 I got for the wife.

It had that peculiar automatic belt drive thingie (the Daf, not the wife) meaning it just kept changing the gear ratio as you accelerated. It could even beat a lot of motorbikes. But after getting to 30 it was mostly a load of cr*p.

I remember those they had a CVT system.

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I'm sure the car is capable of a little better, but it's the limitations of the driver that let it down! :o

:agree: A man's got to know his limitations:rofl:

but the quality and setup of a car can have a mjor affect on a cars traction so the car is just as important as the driver.

Also, as you can see from Makefish's graph, he changed into 3rd before hitting 60mph.... the Octy vRS can do 60 in 2nd just, so if 0-60 is that important then keep it in 2nd til the redline as that would ultimately give a better 0-60 figure than changing into 3rd :)

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