The latest tax rates effective for all tax discs taken out from 13 March 2008 are in the Directgov document in the link below:

The cost of vehicle tax for cars, motorcycles, light goods vehicles and trade licences : Directgov - Motoring

The latest tax rates effective for all tax discs taken out from 13 March 2008 are in the Directgov document in the link below:

The cost of vehicle tax for cars, motorcycles, light goods vehicles and trade licences : Directgov - Motoring

I think the forum could do with a car tax sticky thread for all this. The new system is going to confuse the heck out of people.

Expect a million what is the CO2 figure for my car? what band is it? How much will I be paying in 2012? etc

You got it. For your 181grams you go up from £170 to £260 as you're 1g over that threshold. 180 and it would be £205 next year. How daft is that?

Cheers for that was at swmbo's so i had no access to me car stuff. thats a bummer, i knew it would go up this year thus another reason when i bought it for not going to vrs.

Out of interest whats the vrs go to this year then next??

Just noticed the 7.5t dirty smoking lorries at work stay the same, how do they figure that out??

Hmm, I thought the vRS engine was 136 g/km for CO2? That would mean £120 this year, but down to £110 from 2009.

The thing for me is, despite the engine number being changed on my V5 I'm willing to bet the CO2 records are still based on a pd100 engine. What's the CO2 rating for that engine? If it's less than 130 g/km I could be in an even lower band from 2009! :eek:

My V5 says 132g, but online seems to say 129g.... Oh well. :confused:

i was wondering if there was a way of having the band for me vehicle retested, im sure vpower brings it in under 180

i was wondering if there was a way of having the band for me vehicle retested, im sure vpower brings it in under 180

I hope there isn't As mine is likely to be over 300 odd now.

I hope there isn't As mine is likely to be over 300 odd now.

I think there is a Euro grant you can apply for if you emit solid lumps of coal.

I did know a guy who bored his Allegro out to make it just over 1,500cc and therefore claim a higher fuel allowance and better tax relief (it was many years ago obviously)

138g for my Octy II PD 105 I am quite happy, offsets my fag and whisky tax increase

Yep, band G.. ie most cars with "decent" performance will go up to £400.

So anything with more than 230bhp (standard before anyone says owt) really :thumbdwn:

Don't worry BMW will save you - how about twin-turbos, 286 BHP, 430 lbft and upto 53.3 mpg and its an AUTO :eek:

And the CO2 rating for this 6.1s 0-62, 167mph (delimited) monster ... erm 177 g/km (band E, or band I in new money)

Just for comparison the vRS FSI-T hatch is 188 g/km

whats the table for alternative fuel car mean?!

Cars producing less than 141 g/km CO2 are either better off or not changed.

Then they basically go up by £5 per year for any cars producing between 141 and 160 g/km CO2 or less.

Over 160g/km CO2 and you get progressively more clobbered, with 226+ g/km CO2 adding £15 per year (after initial shock rebanding to between £400 and £440.

The European Union wants the Euro wide average to hit 130 g/km by 2012.

"We" signed up to this on 19th December 2007.

MANUFACTURERS will be fined €20 per g/km per vehicle for every g/km excess in 2012, rising to €35 in 2013, €60 in 2014 and €95 in 2015.

Therefore EVERY Porsche Cayenne Turbo will be fined (358-130)*95 = €21,660 (£16,600)!!!

However, there is a get out, every model producing LESS than 130 g/km gets credits to the same value (however you can't make a profit from the credits if you only sell small cars).

Hence the reason VW (and it's Foxs, Polos, Ibizas, Fabias, 89 g/km hybrid Golfs etc) is so attractive to Porsche that they have spent the 50 billion Euros so far to buy it.

For example the 89g/km hybrid Golf is worth (130-89)*95 = €3,895, the BlueMotion Polo is worth (130-102)*95 = €2,660, even the humble Fabia is worth (130-120)*95 = €950 credits in 1.4 TDI form.

So as long as they sell say 15-20 times as many Fabias and Polos as Cayennes and 911s then there is no fine to pay.

Cars producing less than 141 g/km CO2 are either better off or not changed.

Then they basically go up by £5 per year for any cars producing between 141 and 160 g/km CO2 or less.

Over 160g/km CO2 and you get progressively more clobbered, with 226+ g/km CO2 adding £15 per year (after initial shock rebanding to between £400 and £440.

The European Union wants the Euro wide average to hit 130 g/km by 2012.

"We" signed up to this on 19th December 2007.

MANUFACTURERS will be fined €20 per g/km per vehicle for every g/km excess in 2012, rising to €35 in 2013, €60 in 2014 and €95 in 2015.

Therefore EVERY Porsche Cayenne Turbo will be fined (358-130)*95 = €21,660 (£16,600)!!!

However, there is a get out, every model producing LESS than 130 g/km gets credits to the same value (however you can't make a profit from the credits if you only sell small cars).

Hence the reason VW (and it's Foxs, Polos, Ibizas, Fabias, 89 g/km hybrid Golfs etc) is so attractive to Porsche that they have spent the 50 billion Euros so far to buy it.

For example the 89g/km hybrid Golf is worth (130-89)*95 = €3,895, the BlueMotion Polo is worth (130-102)*95 = €2,660, even the humble Fabia is worth (130-120)*95 = €950 credits in 1.4 TDI form.

So as long as they sell say 15-20 times as many Fabias and Polos as Cayennes and 911s then there is no fine to pay.

Nicely explained:thumbup:

Oh dear, guess the 2012 manufacturer fine for the Bugatti Veyron and Lamborghini Murchielago:

BV = 574 g/km = 42,180 Euros

LM = 500 g/km = 35,150 Euros

:eek:

Are you sure?

When I last tried it, it showed the month before !

Radiotwo

New tax disc has arrived today, running until 31.03.09.

So obviously the "Do not apply for your tax disc before the 15th day of the month before the tax disc is due to start" only applies when taxing in person/by phone/post.

I applied for mine on the 10th, disc arrived on the 13th cost of £140, so saved £5

Oh dear, guess the 2012 manufacturer fine for the Bugatti Veyron and Lamborghini Murchielago:

BV = 574 g/km = 42,180 Euros

LM = 500 g/km = 35,150 Euros

:eek:

Given the price of the BV and the low volume of production I can't see this really being an issue for them.

Also both are part of the VAG so offset against all those blumotion polo's etc...

Good for diesel residuals do you think? Not only does the equivalent performance petrol have worse fuel economy, but now it will have about double the road tax!

Oh dear, guess the 2012 manufacturer fine for the Bugatti Veyron and Lamborghini Murchielago:

BV = 574 g/km = 42,180 Euros

LM = 500 g/km = 35,150 Euros

:eek:

Still it’s only 4% of the purchase cost for the Veyron:rofl:

Good for diesel residuals do you think? Not only does the equivalent performance petrol have worse fuel economy, but now it will have about double the road tax!

Very much so.

Also very good for large engined cars from before 2001

I was considering getting a faster petrol car next time because I'm not doing that many miles at the moment - having second thoughts now though.

Previously anti-modification I might consider a re-map of the Fabia now! - What are the chances in future that you'd have to declare to the DVLA as well as just insurance though?, seems a bit of a loop hole that you can tune a PD engine which is already a bit of a road tax bargain!

I'd rather have seen more petrol duty than this VED increase. They could have always sorted discounts for hauliers and the like, and it would thus be much fairer - taxing on the amount people drive as well a the fuel efficiency of their car (as much of an incentive to drive less), not just penalising those who need larger cars - families etc

Cars producing less than 141 g/km CO2 are either better off or not changed.

Then they basically go up by £5 per year for any cars producing between 141 and 160 g/km CO2 or less.

Over 160g/km CO2 and you get progressively more clobbered, with 226+ g/km CO2 adding £15 per year (after initial shock rebanding to between £400 and £440.

This is where I claim my sour grapes. My car is 162g/km but its a family sized car that does over 40mpg on the combined cycle. Seems quite responsible to me but up goes the tax.

I'd rather have seen more petrol duty than this VED increase. They could have always sorted discounts for hauliers and the like, and it would thus be much fairer - taxing on the amount people drive as well a the fuel efficiency of their car (as much of an incentive to drive less), not just penalising those who need larger cars - families etc

10p on a litre with no road tax would be much farer IMO.

The only problem then is the price of everything would go up as the cost of transporting goods to the shops will increase.

As for the hauliers getting a rebate - it will never happen, they have been trying for that for years!

Perhaps we will see more and more cars like Furbys with the wicks turned up. Lots of grunt and low tax. Having followed Colin G’s Fabbie last night, I can certainly vouch for the potential for speed in even a lightly mod’d Furbie!!!

Perhaps we will see more and more cars like Furbys with the wicks turned up. Lots of grunt and low tax. Having followed Colin G’s Fabbie last night, I can certainly vouch for the potential for speed in even a lightly mod’d Furbie!!!

Although obviously these should be periodically measured for CO2 so that accurate taxation can occur. After all, if we want to save the planet we need a level playing field

Chris

Although obviously these should be periodically measured for CO2 so that accurate taxation can occur. After all, if we want to save the planet we need a level playing field

Chris

Like that’s going to happen……………………………….is it?:eek:

Like that’s going to happen……………………………….is it?:eek:

The other option I can see happening (if periodic monitoring is not introduced) is for manufacturers of sporty CO2 churning out cars selling them with heavily restricted exhausts/engine management at production time and then offering a dealer-fit no cost performance option afterwards to unleash the beast.

Not that anyone does that these days, eg with decatting

Chris