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I thinks it's because the those villages aren't marked up as POIs. In TomTom Mapshare you find Ravenshead but not the villages so I'd say it's driven by that. Reckon it's needs a POI name and the City as the big city it is associated with. I was trying out some villages around Milton Keynes, and they are put as the City of Milton Keynes although not in it, but the POI name is the village and the postal address is MK. Everything else has to be blank. Trying out my local village which isn't in MK that is how it works. Users of TomTom may have submitted them in the past or it was some POI file they got their hands on which was incomplete. On the postal address It goes STREET VILLAGE CITY VILLAGE is the POI name CITY is the city name in the TomTom system. If you put those in, in Mapshare, check they get accepted and wait for the files to be processed, about a year, you'd get them. Feel free to check out the rest. It's the same issue that came up before. Think we have got down to the bottom of it, this.
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Is that version 2210, v19?. I didn't see a difference myself when I checked between v19 (TomTom) and v12 (Here Maps). The level of zoom will reveal more and less details so may drop the main name for the area and go into village names.
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Only really one other person has reported this and that is here: That's where they drew a blank with progressing it.
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I'd assumed he'd used them. It will be the cartography differences and how it setup between the old Here Maps and the new TomTom ones after V12 unless it's been fixed. As said it has come up before. I did have a quick check on the latest maps v v12 maps today. I could see a difference on the villages I was looking it. There are some bizarre things you see as you soon in and out you see province names that you aren't familiar with but I did spot the villages. If its still on the latest map then it will be the cartography and as I said a poster got nowhere taking it up with TomTom via Mapshare reporting website. As I said the validation team wherever they are based, didn't seem to have the capability of naming villages. Only streets errors not missing province names. It could be as I hinted at these are not passed into the mib2 standard maps. You have a GIS database and support files being mapped into the mib2 standard form if they mess up not taking attributes then you won't get them. I did do GIS a few years back... in its infancy hence a hobby now 😉. Planning was my background and to use GIS in it, GIS and navigation are related..... It seems on mib3 a number of newbie errors were made on taking the Here Maps data and getting it into mib3. The programmers on that did not understand the relationship of postcodes to roads using the centroids instead, you dont (That's fixed now, sent people off road 😂). There seems to be an on going issue of defining road speeds again geographical zone rather than road. So they proxy that onto the roads that it's not meant for. Basically rubbish programming from staff that don't understand GIS attributes and know how to use the attribute files which will be in the systems of the cartography companies. They get a file dump and have to use it. If you don't know what is in the dump then you miss use it. Audit comes in 🤔. That which isn't being done very well so it seems from reports. They did fix the off road navigation issue but not the speed issue where the brakes get applied for those that like ACC... 🤔 Answer that question no if villages names are missed out you can't put them in yourself.
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Probably. Mib2 standard isn't such a good implementation on mib2 high. It will be how they took the TomTom cartography and turned it into the Vag mib2 standard which is the one we are talking about. Revert to v12 and have TMC on Here map. I was going to suggest you look at Amigo which uses TomTom cartography. That has village names in it round here so I reckon they just didn't use all the data. Cross check with Amigo. The equivalent Here maps one is Herewego. Those are online renderings of the cartography of the two. They are useful resources for bang up today look at their databases.
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I have come across people moaning about location names on the maps. It remained unresolved. I put them onto the TomTom reporting site and they didn't resolve anything. Reckon the TomTom map screens can change names of roads but not district names if you see what I mean. So they drew a blank. You register for an account, but as I said the validation team get stuck with that type of thing. It's called TomTom Mapshare for feedback. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.tomtom.com/mapshare/tools/new/mapshare/&ved=2ahUKEwj_8YGWjpiFAxXnQEEAHe45AvoQFnoECAcQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0qu-5giOB7e63In0V6ug7e Suspect 2017 maps are Here Maps origin and these are definitely TomTom, so it's the cartography and how it's set up.
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Yes I've seen a picture with the A55 which was never in the original, with a finger pointing at it, by a satisfied person who got the down load working on Seat. They also went on a hacking session like you to get it to fit. Reckon that's the only difference with Skoda you don't have to do the part number edit. It was never sorted out 5 years by Seat people, with only 50% managing to update, then the world moved on to mib2 and the trail went dead. Nice to give them a boost with the maps more up-to-date.
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It does say Technisat mib2 standard and how to test on that link. @bigade1 was the mib2 standard technisat champion in the UK to get it working following Ozzie methods to get it to work on Australian TMC, then used those method on Inrix (as I understand it). Via the mib2 standard toolkit. That washes the changes out which @pcbbc took those files and made it modular so you didn't have to use the toolkit. That was ticked off. Mib2 high @pcbbc sorted that out with a TMC group coding change. That leaves mib2 standard Delphi where a champion hasn't stepped forward. You'd probably have to go back to researching what they did in Australia to change provider but perhaps it's a difficult nut to crack. You'd see from a Google and some reading. Probably need to work backwards from this https://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f78/additional-tmc-provider-mib2-discover-pro-units-heretraffic-134851-5.html Wegas 8/8... Pcbbc is the expert at decrypting those... That's what he did with what came out the mib2 standard toolbox. Public domain code mentioned on the Briskoda by pcbbc thread that decrypts that stuff, probably encrypts it as well. You have to take on the role of Bigade1 with your Delphi 🤔. Pcbbc is a programer... Probably insulted him now 😂. All of that can only be done with V12 maps, not beyond like the mib2 standard Techinsat solution I guess (Here Maps came fully loaded with the hooks in it for different providers whilst TomTom cartography after v12 didn't). Pcbbc has also done one for the French service where he worked with another guy on the thread, where that went similar and vanished to one provider not on the VAG TMC group list. Fun. Mib1 you just do the code change 15 to 14. By mib3 they dropped TMC from the cars. All online now.
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Give you the documented one I pulled together from the thread here. Bigade1 and PCBBC work with thanks. https://www.seatcupra.net/forums/threads/updating-the-inbuilt-mib2-satnav-mib2-tricks-and-mib1.388586/page-136#post-5037297 You don't need the steps 1-12 with the overall.nds file in that. That's only for Seats, you got mapcare on Skoda for life. No coding is required thanks to Pcbbc's module copy. Use option b of the text above. Discussion thread is here but gets punctuated with comments and discussion so I pulled it out as above for Seat users:
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The internal file is dated 12/05/23 so it was zipped then and laying about. 🤔... until someone put it up on their servers. We might have it in the car soon.... There we go showing the Seat part number. Still on Tom Tom cartography so no TMC. Still need the old map workaround which is still gloriously working.
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I'd given up looking. I see it's not wrapped in the VW web page yet, so that will be the one that requires a 32gb if you don't hack out stuff. Others to be found... I'll check the cartography just in case it's switched back to Here Maps. It's possible if they rationised their contracts.
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There is a 2023 mib1 map on mibsolution.one which Seat drivers have been able to use with a part number shuffle. Seat never got mapcare or rather had to fork out for map updates unless you use workarounds. Not sure of the Skoda position on mapcare in mib1, it got dropped in mib2. Lucky souls whilst Audi users are in the same boat. The workaround in mib1 appears to be edit DBInfo file with notepad. PartNumber1="your old part number" PartNumber="your old part number" Edit the the new map file two parameters too: PartNumber1="your old part number" PartNumber="your old part number" Obviously your your old part number is your old part number. Use the notepad editor if Windows. You might not need the part number on Skoda... pass on that, but if you do it appears to be just carrying forward you old PartNumber1="your old part number" PartNumber="your old part number" The unit being tethered on what was originally in place. The file is P106_N60S3MIBS2_EU_NT (8V0060866S): https://mibsolution.one/#/1/15/MSTD guest, guest Always take a copy of the map file before deleting the contents !.
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You can be a daredevil and load up the June 2024, 2024-2025 on a mib2 high as Booboo and I did for Europe, release 370. https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/518018-columbus-map-update-2024-mib12-high/?do=findComment&comment=5830006 That one does have cartography on it six months later than then 2024 one. Only works for the mib2 high not mib1 high. You'll see Boo Boo told us about it higher up. Several links too it, before that. Originated from the new Iron Curtain who had liberated it from Audi. Reckon that will be the source later once Skoda, Seat and VW files dry up on the 5 year rule. I'd used the 350 European one ahead of its combined release on this thread. Audi provide the file in three forms as I understand it. The combined mib1/mib2 high (the big one), then split into mib1 high and mib2 high. The conversation is on mib2 high here. It works like a dream. Theory is to due mib3 connected cars and the monthly update these files can be run off much more quicker than previously. They then lay about waiting to be released three months later. That's my theory. This one appeared three months before formal lease. Thus I reckon a good chance of seeing "390" in September. We'll see.
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SVM error is fine, they work fine with that error, doesn't stop the unit working. The navigation FeC will be listed as installed. Your screen doesn't look like the one in this thread... he got no replies https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/752818-Columbus-MIB1-map-update-help-5E0035020 The mib2 high when it's run off the end of valid navigation FeCs is to flash the map up for 30 seconds after picking a valid destination then it te'll you, you aren't licensed for the map. That's when you need the life long FeC. May be mib1 high does that above. You need to see a table with the navigation FeCs listed for mib1 high by year. You can find the Audi ones I constructed the Seat ones when a dubious retrofitters. Ok well mib-helper puts that at RoW mib1. The other thing is whether there is a production issue on the map. Skoda did have one. Have you tried VW or is that it. Then you have to start working backwards in years till you find a map that world. Feels like a production issue if SWDL is showing ok to the entities of the maps if it's like mib2, should show eggnog etc as OK. Like I had above / nothing to update. If the entities aren't written to I can believe that it wouldn't work. So the Skoda Australian success on the thread has been on mib2 rather than mib1.
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The navigation error after say after 30 seconds once you pick a destination is your navigation FeCs. We haven't got down to the bottom of whether it's a mib1 high or a mib2 high. I have a suspicion it might be a mib1 high as you alluded to. I know how to update the mib2 high navigation FeCs but not the mib 1 high ones. If you revert the maps back to the one you came from the error will go away. You need to find that on the net if you have got a mib1 high. Toolkits are available for mib2 high to amend the navigation FeC and I've sent one of your fellow country men to do it once I think that was an import mib2 high they had, but not mib1 high. I don't believe those tools exist for DIY, the services of a retrofitter is required in that case to put it on a workbench. Only if a mib2 high is DIY with this: https://github.com/Mr-MIBonk/M.I.B._More-Incredible-Bash The other route again for mib2 high is the AIO firmware software that run the above after it's installed the rest. How the Audi posters you see have got here I think. That again you need a mib2 high. Think if your unit is a mib1 high rather than a mib2 high you need your navigation FeCs professionally adjusted by a reliable retrofitter. You want the life long NAR FeCs put in it. Basically Seat and Audi Mib2 high owners were like this till it became a DIY task. Skoda and VW owners with mib2 highs have the luxury of life long navigation FeCs, the other two made a business model out of charging for map upgrades in one way or another.
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SWDL on this one at 1:32 that's a demonstration of the selective update. That I reckon will get you out of the issue. You do it with the map on the SD card he's doing it with a firmware update. It does either but we want to do map update from the backend which is what SWDL gives you. Remember to keep power on else it forgets every thing it's done in the session, doesn't pick up from where it left off unlike the normal map update.
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This is what a mib1 high columbus looks like Not saying you should follow those instructions since MartiniB has posted the files up. Normally if you Google the part number of the infotainment you can determine whether mib2 high or mib1 high. This unit has the carousel that got changed to tiles in mib2 high although you can have the carousel as optional. So if you are seeing the menu as tiles it's definitely a mib2 high.
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Is it not a mib2 high ?. I pass on mib1 highs.... If it is that you managed to get that map in it. SWDL menu I am trying to get you to use if it's a mib1, it never needed enabling on mib1 highs, it was pre-enabled. Mib2 high they made you enable before you can use it. Once enabled a long hold on the menu button should show you a menu with SWDL on it. It's that with the map card in the slop will get you out of difficulties. FEC List.pdf
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You have to hang onto the menu button till it opens the second menu as per above. It did take 24 hours or so for the developers menu to appear once enabled. Think it builds extra code or something. Once built you can always bring it up and you will see SWDL. That you use with either the door open for 45 minutes of map update or open and close it every 15 minutes. Give you a spare 5 minutes grace. Thats a manual update, you can go to old maps or new maps forcing an update. I suggest you force the 23-24 maps in. If you get them back try with the VW file for 24 or just try that. The menu says start or something which is the normal update or you press start manual download which is the selective update. You'll get the idea. You can dive up and down on the manual update. Either way the screen tell you what is possible to update.
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Pcbbc had said he wasn't going to do it right up on the thread. Too much to change so no change there. I guess Ozzie folk had looked it as well. It's legacy now unless Audi bring out some map reverting to HereMaps. Basically, the maps will be frozen in time now at V12 if you want Inrix for the UK and V18 without TMC in the UK. V12 is pretty adequate as you move away from 2024 both maps will age....
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Why I'd written off the question off as a mib2 standard one, mib2 standard hasn't been updated since June 2023 so it's reached the end of the road and anything after V12 is as Pcbbc says above. Basically you got to run with old maps on a mib2 standard either way unless like that mib1 map Vag release an update is found by Russian boards (that one always used Here Maps). You would only be in luck on that if they reverted to Here Maps cartography on mib2 standard not the TomTom one. I suspect Vags TomTom cartography contract is dead whilst they have a Here Maps one which is what mib1, mib2 high and mib3 use. Why updates stopped a year or so earlier than we would expect on the 5 year rule (map contract). Skoda as we know runs 6 months late so their November 2023 release was actually the June 2023 release (old). For mib2 standard if you want Inrix on latest maps you got to hope Vag has a business case to dig out their old Here Maps mib2 standard code for producing these / the agents they use for turning this around. I doubt it's going to happen unless there is a fleet of vehicles that need these maps. Probably committed Skoda users that think only Skoda maps should be used haven't twigged the end of the road has been reached for mib2 standard maps... They will in June 2024 when no maps are released on the Skoda website 😉... 2110 V18 is the last release ever as things stand. V12 is the last one that you can get Inrix to work on as per the thread. It's remote that you'll see any new mib2 standard maps let alone with Inrix unless Vag has a business case to produce them and they revert cartography and dig out their old programs. We might be surprised... You never know. It's a wait and see, in the meantime modded V12 to get Inrix on mib2 standard... Basically what they found in Australia where they were customising Vag maps to work with their local TMC provider. The jump back to old maps came from them. It was perfected by Bigade1 / Pcbbc for UK Inrix to make it an easy task home task to do.
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Is that mib3 you mean. It's over the air on connect services 4g, so no. Mib1 and 2 solutions as posted.
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Well the map updates go for 5 years after they change mib, so that puts it at 2030 for the current mib3. Firmware in the pre face lifted tends to get updates for about year after they finish. The question with post 2025 cars is how much of the firmware and files goes across into the next range. Could be shorter than we think.
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"Fee based traffic information" in Obdeleven. 14 is the group that holds Inrix. 15 is the one that holds Traffic Master in mib2 high non connected. I didn't say traffic master group @pcbbc !. The Id's are bundled into those groups. I'm expert on classification and grouping 😉. The traffic channels are grouped for marketting purposes for the infotainment providers associated with the car brand. Some go one way some go the other way. Traffic Master pulling out put a hole in the UK TMC service. The approach here to the fix was the same as the Australian Vag imports...
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Yes it was the TMC group that Vag used which had Traffic Master in it which pulled out of the UK but Inrix the other provider continues in a different group. Pcbbc sorted out mib2 high (mib1 solution dropped out of that) and mib2 standard excluding VW Discovery Media Bigade1 got that working and Pcbbc then improved it by taking out the need for recoding it: Mib2 standard here it can't be a Delphi: https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/512443-tmc-traffic-events-no-longer-being-receivedfirmware-update-required/?do=findComment&comment=5778623 Mib1 standard / high, Mib2 high: Just that code change dependent on what's in it. If its xxxxx then make it 32782. All mib1s go to 14 as mib2 highs without connect services. I did a write up on the SeatCupra board which covers the Vag models. Since I have edit privileges there I can perfect posts 😍. Mib2 standard: https://www.seatcupra.net/forums/threads/updating-the-inbuilt-mib2-satnav-mib2-tricks-and-mib1.388586/page-136#post-5037297 Mib2 high + Mib1: https://www.seatcupra.net/forums/threads/updating-the-inbuilt-mib2-satnav-mib2-tricks-and-mib1.388586/page-136#post-5035425 In short Vag won't be recalling these cars for this change they would have to pay Inrix. It's a DIY task or use someone to code it. A list of hobbyist Skodas is on the thread. Really for mib1 and mib2 high. Mib2 standard is like doing a map update but copying a few more segments that Pcbbc wrote. You can do that yourself if basic PC skills.
