Bad news

Driving along today in my brand new VRS which I picked up on March 1st and I heard a very loud snap.

It appears one of the engine mount bolts was missing and the other one loosened under the pressure and then snapped and the engine dropped and crushed my aircon pipe and damaged my exhast and gear box!

Have done 7000 miles and driven it fairly hard some of the time, but alot of the time have been on the motorway driving fairly sensibly.

As you can imagine I am gutted, as anyone else heard of this happening?

Before this happened I thought my car was bullet proof!

Cheers

Sam

Not good news that. There was another story on broken engine mounts you might find if you search.

Which engine? Diesel by chance?

Which engine? Diesel by chance?

Uh Oh.....is this getting a bit to regular?

Yeah it is the 170BHP Diesel, why do you mention Diesel, is there a problem your aware of?

If its a diesel then i've seen a few. For some reason on the latter BKP and BMR engines in the Passat they have a new type of engine mounting. Where the old one bolted to the block with three bolts then new type uses two fastened to the block and one to a revised bracket at the front of the engine that supports the alternator/ac compressor etc. This bracket is aluminium and just breaks up leaving the remaining two bolts to cope, which they dont.

Another reason to buy the TFSI over the Diesel.

If its a diesel then i've seen a few. For some reason on the latter BKP and BMR engines in the Passat they have a new type of engine mounting. Where the old one bolted to the block with three bolts then new type uses two fastened to the block and one to a revised bracket at the front of the engine that supports the alternator/ac compressor etc. This bracket is aluminium and just breaks up leaving the remaining two bolts to cope, which they dont.

My VRS is an 08 plate, so would I be right in assuming I have the new mounting?

It appears one of the engine mount bolts was missing?

Mine did similar - sounds like yours got away lightly in comparison...

Mine snapped a Mount bolt, causing the second bolt to come loose, and the engine dropped off the mount and it lunched the cambelt and a tensioner - resulting in engine loss

Thread for mine here

http://briskoda.net/forums/octavia-ii/major-fault-engine-destruction-possibly-manufacturing-part-fault-please-read/81579/

Use it to help yourself out with fighting your corner for the Warranty etc if needs be - i don't mind, wouldn't wish anyone else to go through the grief i did...

Won't they issue a recall for this? Sounds pretty serious.

I know Mazda issued a recall on engine mount bolts for the 3MPS early on: Recall Details for MAZDA - MAZDA 3 MPS

My TDI VRS was new in March. Ok so far.

Is it possible to view the bracket easily and check its condition. ?

This clearly has serious safety implications. The thought of a failure at M'way speeds doesn't bear thinking about! For the sake of the rest of us, can I encourage those who've suffered this failure to make an incident report to:

Vehicle & Operator Services Agency

Vehicle Safety Branch

Room 101

Berkeley House

Croydon Street

BRISTOL

BS5 0DA

Tel: 0117 954 3300

They will investigate and if it is a significant problem they have powers to insist on a recall. Without this, I suspect VAG will try to keep it under wraps...

You should push for a brand new car as this one obviously sounds as if it wasn't fit for purpose.

Oh, and contact Watchdog!!

Without this, I suspect VAG will try to keep it under wraps...

Damn Right - they did with mine...

If its a diesel then i've seen a few. For some reason on the latter BKP and BMR engines in the Passat they have a new type of engine mounting. Where the old one bolted to the block with three bolts then new type uses two fastened to the block and one to a revised bracket at the front of the engine that supports the alternator/ac compressor etc. This bracket is aluminium and just breaks up leaving the remaining two bolts to cope, which they dont.

Are these mounts the same in all the 2.0tdi engines or only in the VRS 170tdi?

This clearly has serious safety implications. The thought of a failure at M'way speeds doesn't bear thinking about! For the sake of the rest of us, can I encourage those who've suffered this failure to make an incident report to:

Vehicle & Operator Services Agency

Vehicle Safety Branch

Room 101

Berkeley House

Croydon Street

BRISTOL

BS5 0DA

Tel: 0117 954 3300

They will investigate and if it is a significant problem they have powers to insist on a recall. Without this, I suspect VAG will try to keep it under wraps...

Just put a call into them and they are looking into this

Cheers

Sam

My TDI VRS was new in March. Ok so far.

Is it possible to view the bracket easily and check its condition. ?

Seconded, anyone?

Chris

Are these mounts the same in all the 2.0tdi engines or only in the VRS 170tdi?

You took the words out of my mouth...

More importantly do you know if they use the same mounts in other cars ie Golf, A3 Leon etc

If its the same mounts across the range then there will be more weight to the argument

My TDI VRS was new in March. Ok so far.

Is it possible to view the bracket easily and check its condition. ?

Description or pics anyone? I'd like to check mine out at the weekend.

Although now over a year old and with 19,000 miles I would have thought it might have broken already if it was going to!

Sympathies to djgritt and Sam VRS

Description or pics anyone? I'd like to check mine out at the weekend.

Although now over a year old and with 19,000 miles I would have thought it might have broken already if it was going to!

Sympathies to djgritt and Sam VRS

Spoke to the garage

They are replacing the gearbox, air con and exhaust.

I have asked for something in writing, confirming their is not a generic problem, if this happens again it wont invalidate warranty and I have asked for my car to be checked from top to bottom.

I have also agreed if this happens again I am handing it back.

Have got a 1.9TDI standard octavia and just got cut up and outpowered by a little T$at in a 206...........gutted

Sam

In Moscow vRS internet club we have two TFSI vRS with damaged engine mounts. Both cases covered by waranty

Happened now on my 2 years old 63.000km 2.0 dsl DSG...

not sure what will be replaced.

Is this only a derv issue, or should all Octy owners be cringing?

Happenend to another member on here last week that i know of, diesel too.