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Just wondering if anyone has tried to fit the brembo 4 pots off of any of the Seat cupra R range???

Have been wondering about this for a while instead of the usual 312mm set up. Does a cliper exist for the 312mm discs?

I've done a small amount of searching but haven't come up with much. I know there are somethat fit 323mm discs so fitting these would require 17" wheels or bigger.

Anyone know what offset the wheels are on the Leon Cupra R with 323mm discs and brembo's?

Also if you can get them from Seat and how much???

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312mm calipers and discs and pads can be had for around £250 :)

I believe Awesome sell a kit that uses Boxter rear calipers on 312mm disks.

Any radial mount caliper can be made to fit with a little knowledge and the right caliper mounting bracket.

The issues you face are caliper to wheel spoke clearance and the need for spacers. Wheel diameter isn't as big an issue as people seem to make out.

Knowing from personal experience that R32 disks/calipers fit under 17" with bags of room, I would hazard a guess that GT/LCR Brembos may squeeze under 16" but again, spacers would probably be required.

Just wondering if anyone has tried to fit the brembo 4 pots off of any of the Seat cupra R range???

Have been wondering about this for a while instead of the usual 312mm set up. Does a cliper exist for the 312mm discs?

I've done a small amount of searching but haven't come up with much. I know there are somethat fit 323mm discs so fitting these would require 17" wheels or bigger.

Anyone know what offset the wheels are on the Leon Cupra R with 323mm discs and brembo's?

Also if you can get them from Seat and how much???

ISTR that Jason has done this...?

Xav is running brembo's...

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Hmmmmm,

This isn't going to be the simple bolt on option i was thinking of then..... :rolleyes:

There's no way on this earth i'll entertain the idea of wheel spacers!!!!!!! :eek:

I have 17" Audi 5 spoke reps on my car anyway and was thinking it's more a case of offset clearance than anything else.

I don't fancy messing about trying to make caliper mounts. I know the amount of work that goes into it because a friend of mine runs his own business doing just that. Very time consuming!!! Hence trying to find calipers that just bolt on.

I wanted to be a bit different and not just go for the usual 312's. I thought that the cost of the calipers is what has stopped people from doing this before now :confused:

Im fitting brembo four pots to the fabia a week tomoro :cool:

hoping the 17 superturismo's will fit over them if not then just run my mates S3 wheels for a little bit untill i get spacers which i dont really want to do either !

these are 323's

i had 17"pro race 1's over mine before i got my 18's which are pretty much the same style as super t's. should be ok with them mate.

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Here are my wheels

The pic doesn't really make them look good for some reason...... I'll try to get another at some point.

I assume these will fit over the calipers as long as the offset is big enough??

Here are my wheels

The pic doesn't really make them look good for some reason...... I'll try to get another at some point.

I assume these will fit over the calipers as long as the offset is big enough??

You will really struggle with RS6 reps and the like due to the spoke design, they are a very thick spoke and they dish in slightly towards the centre.

Just wondering if anyone has tried to fit the brembo 4 pots off of any of the Seat cupra R range???

Have been wondering about this for a while instead of the usual 312mm set up. Does a cliper exist for the 312mm discs?

I've done a small amount of searching but haven't come up with much. I know there are somethat fit 323mm discs so fitting these would require 17" wheels or bigger.

Anyone know what offset the wheels are on the Leon Cupra R with 323mm discs and brembo's?

Also if you can get them from Seat and how much???

as said you may have probs with brembos under those wheels you may get them under with spacers.

most people go for the 312mm setup as its cheep and a easy swap

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do you stil live in hastings? if you do my girlfriend lives just round the corner from you on bohima rd you can have a go in mine with 312s on. if you want:)

just drop me a pm

Xav is running brembo's...

Indeed he is.

The set is the Brembo GT kit (same as the kit fitted to the LCR but uses the Ibiza Cupra R calipers).

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I did the conversion about 5 years and 60k ago and there have been no issues at all.

Seem to remember Xav telling me that the 312's have about 90% of the performace of the Brembos.

312's with the OEM pads seem to perform very well indeed for fast road use.

What's the current price difference?

Indeed he is.

The set is the Brembo GT kit (same as the kit fitted to the LCR but uses the Ibiza Cupra R calipers).

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brakes2.jpg

I did the conversion about 5 years and 60k ago and there have been no issues at all.

Isnt the ibiza 308mm discs??

The LCR is 323 and obviously there is the non-brembo 312's

Isnt the ibiza 308mm discs??

The LCR is 323 and obviously there is the non-brembo 312's

Yeah, thats why i said its the ame set up as the LCR i.e 323mm discs 'BUT' uses the Ibiza Calipers.

The 308mm Ibiza discs are also four stud.

The other option is the Ibiza Cupra AP calipers using the 312mm discs.

Yeah, thats why i said its the ame set up as the LCR i.e 323mm discs 'BUT' uses the Ibiza Calipers.

The 308mm Ibiza discs are also four stud.

The other option is the Ibiza Cupra AP calipers using the 312mm discs.

I wasnt saying as if you didn't know was just thinking aloud so that others knew :thumbup:

In that case is it possible to fit them under OEM 16's?

:confused:

the trouble with 4 pot calipers is as said the width rather than the diameter.

most cars run single piston calipers as standard where the single piston is on the inside where the 4 pots obviously have 2 pistons either side so the width on the outsside edge i smuch greater.

In that case is it possible to fit them under OEM 16's?

Not a 323mm disc no, 312mm is close enough.

Not a 323mm disc no, 312mm is close enough.

I know, i ment the 308mm ibiza brembo's ;)

Despite being as rare as rocking horse **** the Mk4 R32's are a good option. They're 334mm, and two pot, with the pistons mounted at the back - so although you still have the issue of wheel size for the outside edge clearance you don't have the issue with wheel spacing because the caliper does not stick out much more then normal.

Saying that when I was looking for an option other then 312's I really struggled. Your going into the realms of brakes that are fitted to cars that in general are nowhere near as common place as cars that are fitted with 312's which to be honest seems to be most of the modern VAG cars these days.

Despite being as rare as rocking horse **** the Mk4 R32's are a good option. They're 334mm, and two pot, with the pistons mounted at the back - so although you still have the issue of wheel size for the outside edge clearance you don't have the issue with wheel spacing because the caliper does not stick out much more then normal.

only thing i could think of with these would be wheel size,would an 18" wheel be required to fit?

As that just would wreck handling,if your going that big you need porsche breaks:thumbup:

I know, i ment the 308mm ibiza brembo's ;)

Yeah but like I posted they are 4 x 100 so not going to fit a Fabia..lol

only thing i could think of with these would be wheel size,would an 18" wheel be required to fit?

As that just would wreck handling,if your going that big you need porsche breaks:thumbup:

The other downside to the MK4 R32 brakes is a pair of front discs are nearly £500...lol.

only thing i could think of with these would be wheel size,would an 18" wheel be required to fit?

As that just would wreck handling,if your going that big you need porsche breaks:thumbup:

Well again thats another good point oilburnin' - I had a good scout on some of the VW owners club sites and the R32 334mm upgrade was a common upgrade a few years ago for some of the old school Golfs...

...now a list was compiled of 17" wheels that WOULD fit the 334mm option. In general the list consisted of O.Z wheels because they seemed to have good clearance, the list also included some VW OEM 17" wheels. But most people on the forums that where planning to fit the 334's had 18"'s so it was never an issue. There is a good chance your Spyders will accomidate them.

I don't think the Mk5 R32 brake route will ever take off to be honest. Obviously the PCD is different along with the mounting design and disc design however more importantly word on the street is despite the Mk5 sporting 345mm brakes they're only 1 Pot and the 334mm 2 Pots on the Mk4 where meant to be far superior.

Either way from what I have read, and I have done a fair bit of research on the subject if you can get yourself a set of 334mm's and you have 18" wheels then your laughing. They're meant to have fantastic bite, they're two pot, and they just bolt straight on. But to be fair you just need to look on eBay for the prices of replacements discs and pads and you'l be sick; because they're f00king expensive.

Its all a game of looking at the pro's and con's - but 99% of the time if your just after a cheap upgrade thats a good all rounder then I doubt you can beat the 312mm jobby.

i'm in the process of upgrading my 312's to brembo's cos i can't be bothered to paint the 312mm calipers:D

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