When i say old i mean over 80! Or at least re test them!

This morning on the way to work coming off a round about onto a dual carriage way i was following a lady in a brand new A5. Infront of here was this old man (with hearing aid) in a toyota something. When he decide he was lost and stopped dead in the slow lane at rush hour! Now its a very busy road traffic in both lanes! The A5 hits the brakes hard and turns right slightly going into the right hand lane! I could turn at all car in the right hit brakes as hard as i could and went up the back of the A5 all cars sreaching to a holt around him!

Turns out he was lost thinking he could reverse back to the roundabout or wait or turn in the road!!!!! Resulting in me having to pay my excess and losing all no claims bonus and making a mess of the front bumper wing, light and bonnet!

Lucky for him the A5 managed to just miss him by turning so he has got off with nothing, after trying to report him to the polive for the dangerous driving, not just me lady in A5 and witness went to report him too! The police wont do anything, as he 'wasnt involved'

I say give anyone over the age of 80 a driving test this man is a danger to himself and others around him! and has now made me out of pocket!

Sorry to hear this :(

I agree 100% - retests at 65 and 70 and then a ban at 80. People's reaction times and general awareness are just not good enough to ensure their safety and ours at that age.

No offence, but if I'm around when you're 80 I'll remind you of this.

I can understand how annoyed you are, but unless it's a clearway (red X in circle, blue background), then he's not done anything wrong in stopping. And if you or the lady in the A5 were too close to stop in time, then you've no-one to blame but yourselves. I don't deny he's a danger to himself and others, but it's your responsibility as the driver of your car to be aware of these hazards and adapt your own driving to suit...

I hope i get retested at 80! He was a danger this was rush hour traffic, and i belive no stopping sign was next to him! As the verges are grass and sink! This is why on the exit of the round about he had just stopped! Being to close at 20mph coming from a round about shouldnt ever be an issue! Yes maybe i was alittle too close maybe the A5 brakes were too good! But this gentleman was preparing to turn around on a dual carriage way going the wrong way into a round about! Thus if we didnt almost hit him, him would have killed someone!

I just cant believe he has got away with it to a later date do the same, and come up alot worse!

Well, some elderly drivers KNOW when it is time to give up. An old boy near me drove every day with no trouble until he was 80, then one day he found himself taking a turn up the wrong slip road onto the motorway. He corrected himself, knew his judgement was failing and then gave up his licence the next day.

My aunt is 95 and is still an excellent driver. Her eyesight is fine, and her perception is sharp. She is no sluggard either - works that '86 Mitsubishi Colt to it's max!

Ian

If you hit someone up the backside its no-one elses fault but yours!

A ban at 80 is a bit harsh, a retest, yes, but not ban.

My grandad is 84 and is a great driver, and i would like to think he has many a good driving years in front of him too.

When i say old i mean over 80! Or at least re test them!

This morning on the way to work coming off a round about onto a dual carriage way i was following a lady in a brand new A5. Infront of here was this old man (with hearing aid) in a toyota something. When he decide he was lost and stopped dead in the slow lane at rush hour! Now its a very busy road traffic in both lanes! The A5 hits the brakes hard and turns right slightly going into the right hand lane! I could turn at all car in the right hit brakes as hard as i could and went up the back of the A5 all cars sreaching to a holt around him!

Turns out he was lost thinking he could reverse back to the roundabout or wait or turn in the road!!!!! Resulting in me having to pay my excess and losing all no claims bonus and making a mess of the front bumper wing, light and bonnet!

Lucky for him the A5 managed to just miss him by turning so he has got off with nothing, after trying to report him to the polive for the dangerous driving, not just me lady in A5 and witness went to report him too! The police wont do anything, as he 'wasnt involved'

I say give anyone over the age of 80 a driving test this man is a danger to himself and others around him! and has now made me out of pocket!

Whilst the Police won't do anything, with everyone else involved seeming to think he's in the wrong, try out your insurance company. You are independent witnesses for each other.

If there's no good reason to stop and/or the road signs dictate that you can't stop. Report it and get him done up like a kipper. Rather that than you losing your no-claims bonus.

J.

When i say old i mean over 80! Or at least re test them!

This morning on the way to work coming off a round about onto a dual carriage way i was following a lady in a brand new A5. Infront of here was this old man (with hearing aid) in a toyota something. When he decide he was lost and stopped dead in the slow lane at rush hour! Now its a very busy road traffic in both lanes! The A5 hits the brakes hard and turns right slightly going into the right hand lane! I could turn at all car in the right hit brakes as hard as i could and went up the back of the A5 all cars sreaching to a holt around him!

Turns out he was lost thinking he could reverse back to the roundabout or wait or turn in the road!!!!! Resulting in me having to pay my excess and losing all no claims bonus and making a mess of the front bumper wing, light and bonnet!

Lucky for him the A5 managed to just miss him by turning so he has got off with nothing, after trying to report him to the polive for the dangerous driving, not just me lady in A5 and witness went to report him too! The police wont do anything, as he 'wasnt involved'

I say give anyone over the age of 80 a driving test this man is a danger to himself and others around him! and has now made me out of pocket!

You were the one who drove into the back of someone elses car - an accident that will be seen as 100% your fault

Sounds like you need to be re-tested

So you were tailgating someone, and somehow it's the fault of the car in front of the person you were tailgating? I don't think so!!

I saw a similar incident this morning involving an old boy driving at 35 in a 60.

He got confused coming off a roundabout about which side of a coned off dual carriageway was in use, I don't know what he was thinking as he dodged through the line of cones and chose the wrong side. The rest of us accelerated up to speed until he realised his mistake and just pulled straight out into a lane of traffic doing 20mph more than him. Thankfully the gaps between all of us were fairly large and there was enough room for the first few cars to squeeze around him.

Definately a candidate for a revoked driving license!

Come on guys, I hate tailgater with a passion, and I keep my distance but this could happen to anyone, if your driving along a high speed road and some idiot decides they have taken a wrong turn and you have a accident because of this then I can understand why HOD is abit miffed, how many times have you been driving in the dark on the motorway only to find some idiot in the middle lane at 50 and cars are going all over the place to avoid it, yep he was driving to near, but say he had just gone to overtake a car, when we sometimes are all abit nearer than we wont to be then this happened, its you fault but on a fifty do you expect people to be do 0 miles an hour, ok the M25 you might.

This happened to my brother, car pulled out at junction on to a fast road brother went to pull out he looked both way pulled out, only to find car had decided actual no I want to go back the otherway, thump rear accident, brother to blame, some accidents are just that, alot of you guys here have many years of driving ahead, lets hope you dont get some idiot do something like this, and if they do lets hope you can walk away from it, cos then you would be really miffed if some idiot stopped on a fast road and got away with it.

Well my old man's 71 and can still drive very well. He's much calmer behind the wheel now days (no bad thing) so instead of hooning around at break neck speeds everywhere, he just hoofs it where appropriate to do so. However when the mood takes him he still thinks he's M.Shumacher behind the wheel.

So not all OAP's are past it...

Mind you I'm forever shouting at our grey haired members of the public when they are driving around like ma' and pa' kettle. 30 in a 60 zone ... yes you all know who you are. Speed limit doesn't mean you have to drive at that speed, but approaching something near it would be appreciated please.

The otherhalf's next door neighbour is well into his 80's, had parkinsons and dementia, can hardly walk with the aid of a walking stick. cant hear and cant see....

.... Yet he can still drive!!!

His daughter sold his manual car last year as he could control the revs / clutch, now he has an auto

Rediculous

Well if his eyes are that bad then he'll be advised by his optician not to drive and to inform the dvla. (maybe the opticians even have to advise the dvla by law, would be nice to think they would).

Retest everyone. Every 5 years.

That way we get all the muppets off the road and increases awareness of changes to the HC and means everyone is trained to the same standard.

This then makes then makes the roads safer and less congested.

Brilliant. I may have just solved our transport, road safety, environmental and oil issues in one stroke.

It's funny, but whenever I am called out to an rtc and have to cut someone out of a car with holmatro cutters it's nearly always young-ish lads who have lost control. So, yep whilst I agree that some old-uns are a danger, they dont cause half as many fatals as younger drivers. If anything, raise the legal limit of drivers, that way MOST of them might have grown up a little instead of thinking that going fast increases the size of thier kn@b.

If you hit someone up the backside its no-one elses fault but yours!

actully this is incorrect,as a hgv driver i leave a large gap in front of me,when pulling up to a junction i have had 3 accidents when people pull into my braking zone,they were all prosecuted for driving without due care:thumbup:

actully this is incorrect,as a hgv driver i leave a large gap in front of me,when pulling up to a junction i have had 3 accidents when people pull into my braking zone,they were all prosecuted for driving without due care:thumbup:

Absolutely spot on, you CAN be convicted of this in this situation.

It's funny, but whenever I am called out to an rtc and have to cut someone out of a car with holmatro cutters it's nearly always young-ish lads who have lost control. So, yep whilst I agree that some old-uns are a danger, they dont cause half as many fatals as younger drivers. If anything, raise the legal limit of drivers, that way MOST of them might have grown up a little instead of thinking that going fast increases the size of thier kn@b.

Ditto...

I havent at all said i wasnt in the wrong yes i may have been alittle close but when coming off aroundabout getting up to speed along a dual carriage way! you do not except someone to just stop with no indication at all! if he had pulled onto the grass verge and sunk nothing would have happened! What i am saying is the older generation should be re tested not banned. Not everyone can be put in the same league. The fact he said he has stopped so he could turn around (on a dual carriageway) shocked me! lucky it wasnt further down the road the speeds would have been alot higher.

All that has been said is that this wouldn't have happened if the gentleman had continued up the road to the next roundabout and turned around. But he was lost and confused as to what to do. I felt sorry for him, I just feel that there should be a way to report someone who needs retesting, young, old a danger.

Aren't you supposed to drive so that you expect the unexpected?

I recall someone calling in to a radio lawyer hoping to sue a council because a central reservation bollard wasn't lit up and he ran into it. The lawyer said simply: "Don't be silly. It could have been a child." In this case, it probably wouldn't have been a child causing the driver to stop but could easily have been loss of power which some complain of. I noted where a double decker bus had lost power at a diagonal on a junction whilst turning right. Such things do happen however old a driver is.

No harm in having more frequent retests for both young and old though.

Regards

Mo

I have said i was wrong, not expecting someone to stop, something i have now learned which has cost a lot!

Let hope i dont see him driving the wrong way down the dual carriageway tomorrow lost! If someone is dangerous i want to be able to report it! This is what i am saying!

Two wrongs don't make a right though.

He did something very silly.

You were driving too fast and too close (by the sound of things).

Maybe you both should be re-tested...